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Subject: Re: [Minutus] Clathrates
It sounds like in your model the clathrate forms first and then opens up and engulfs the guest solute. Your Univ of Utah study makes no mention of this.
They imply more classical lines, the difference is that clathrate GROW around the guest molecules which they say "concentrate in blobs as amorphous clusters involving multiple guest molecules in water-mediated configurations."
They write, "these blobs are in dynamic equilibrium with the dilute solution and give birth to the clathrate cages that eventually transform it into an amorphous clathrate nucleus."
In other words, as I read it, you're saying the clathrate grows first and then ingests the solute like a phagocyte. That isn't what they the post docs at the Univ of Utah are saying, nor is it what happens . . in my understanding of it.
The 2010 talk at the Cavendish Lab "The Supramolecular Chemistry of the Homeopathic Remedy" asserts that the H2O molecules enter into the crystalline matrix of the guest solute and attach themselves to it relative to the charge they find there, and then by molecular self assembly chain out into the cybotactic field of the outer hydrate shell.
The cybotactic field is the region around a solute molecule, also called the cosphere, in which the solvent molecules are more ordered. This is the space where H2O molecules are in a "nematic mesophase." Nematic means that the molecules in the liquid crystal are oriented in parallel but not arranged in well-defined planes as they are in "smectic" arrays.
In other simpler words, the presence of a particle in water will affect the way water molecules structure around it.
You can see a graphic presentation of this . . a picture of how a clathrate forms . . in a power point presentation that I put together under the auspices of Professor Brian Josephson for the Cavendish talk.
You can download the power point at
www.tcm.phy.cam.ac.uk/~bdj10/beyond_molecule/bm.ppt
The mere recognized existence of the clathrate by conventional science refutes the objection by homeopathy bashing pseudoscientists, who arrogantly assert, that because water can't structure at liquid temperatures, it can't have a "memory." This alone should be a milestone revelation for science, medicine and specifically, homeopathy, for it yields yet another example of scientific denial in the service of medical syndicalism.
But this example is still limited, because it only addresses how a clathrate forms in the first phase of dilution, in the presence of particulate. We still need to explain how structuring continues past the molecular phase into the supramolecular phase, "beyond the molecule."
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