Minutus

Only if it is not excessive
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From: Liz Lalor
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 9:10 PM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Appetite suppressants?

Appetite is a sign of health. It is an oxymoron to ask about homoeopathic appetite suppression.

Tanya is right, but fasting is good all by its self. Lots of remedies are indicated by a troublesome appetite, such as Lyc., Nat-mur, Merc,m and Iod. Abrotanum is an interesting remedy. Consult a good homeopath to find one that is best for you.
John
In a message dated 11/7/2013 4:40:43 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, tamarque@earthlink.net writes:
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I think short fasts are good and there is much work on doing 1 day/week fasts to rest the body.
However, strict fasting is often very difficult for people, especially if they have eating disorders or
special dietary requirements for health reasons.
In sum, as always in homeopathy, in each individual case
t
From: jrbenneth@aol.com
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 1:44 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Appetite suppressants?

Tanya is right, but fasting is good all by its self. Lots of remedies are indicated by a troublesome appetite, such as Lyc., Nat-mur, Merc,m and Iod. Abrotanum is an interesting remedy. Consult a good homeopath to find one that is best for you.
John
In a message dated 11/7/2013 4:40:43 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, tamarque@earthlink.net writes:
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John Benneth, Homeopath
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SKYPE: John Benneth (Portland, Oregon)
503- 819 - 7777 (USA)

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I disagree.
It caues kidney damage among other things. What's good about that?
There's nothing beneficial about it.
..Irene

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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

It's designed to deteriorate when unused, it is not designed to "rest"
It is overdesigned to withstand the abuse of a fast, but that does not make fasting beneficial.
I've seen nothing to suggest fasting is beneficial - it's used in some cultures as a means of "practicing discipline", but there are other ways to do that which do not hurt the system.

Have you thought what happens if you "rest" your heart or your lungs or your kidneys - for example?

Namaste,
Irene

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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

Actually, Irene, slowing the heart is very much part of the practice
of meditation which is attached to longevitiy. And a recent article
spoke to the need for sleep as a method of detoxing the brain.
And this is done every nite. Further, it is promoted by many to
have at least a 12 hr fast every day. This is why we call the first meal
of the day BREAK FAST.
t
From: Irene de Villiers
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 2:23 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Appetite suppressants?
It's designed to deteriorate when unused, it is not designed to "rest"
It is overdesigned to withstand the abuse of a fast, but that does not make fasting beneficial.
I've seen nothing to suggest fasting is beneficial - it's used in some cultures as a means of "practicing discipline", but there are other ways to do that which do not hurt the system.

Have you thought what happens if you "rest" your heart or your lungs or your kidneys - for example?

Namaste,
Irene

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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

Cannot appetite be deranged? I am not joking here. In fact, I am sure that appetite is and should be considered an integral part of the vital healing energy and that it can be deranged. It is common knowledge in Traditional Chinese Medicine and Ayurvedic Medicine that we crave the very foods that we should not eat. I need to stay away from hot foods or else I become much more irritable than normal. And I have demonstrated this over and over and over, much to the dismay of my family. And if I eat cool foods, peace reigns supreme in our family. "Appetite" is not just one thing. Why would it not be possible to, for example, nudge a pitta person like myself towards balance with homeopathy. Eating hot curry is a disease for me. It makes me impossible to live with; it ruins my sleep for a day or two. Why wouldn't a homeopathically potentized bit of hot curry nudge my pitta nature to be more balanced.

In fact, I believe that Sulfur 200C has done just that to some extent. I am much less irritable, thank you Samual H. But I still have a bit of irritability after eating hot curry, which I have noticed recently. Why wouldn't potentized hot curry be more to the point than Sulfur 200C. After all, I probably won't be eating raw unmixed sulfur anytime soon.

I rest my case.

Roger Bird
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To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: lalor@ozonline.com.au
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2013 13:10:47 +1100
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Appetite suppressants?
Appetite is a sign of health. It is an oxymoron to ask about homoeopathic appetite suppression.

It is not "resting" form lack of nutrients then. There's no comparison.
Sleep is essential to lowering the cortisol built up during the day, and for healing in general, which hapens twice as fast during sleep - unless tyhe nutrients to work with, have been deprived, as in fasting!

Nobody is questioning the value of sleep, meditaton etc - just the value of failing to provdie the nutrients used during these times.
Promoted by many does not equal beneficial. It is especially NOT beneficial to go without nutrients more than 8 hrs in many situations.
We call is breaking the fast that occurs during sleep of 8 hrs of so.
The liver is designed to kick in and convert muscle to glucose if you fail to eat for longer than 8 hrs. The body does NOT benefit by protein breakdown.

The fast during sleep is not what was meant in this discussion by "fasting" - and I am sure you know that!

I see nothing in these excuses to suggest any benefit from fasting as we are discussing it.
If one generally eats poison, I suppose there would be benefit to stopping eaating that. But I am assuming a person who cares at all about their health, is not eating poison or will stop doing so rather than fasting and depleting ALL nutrients.

Namaste,
Irene

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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

I agree with you.
Some checmicals especially cause this problem directly - artificial sweeteners for one.
Bu we also are all individuals and different strokes sjuit different folks in the food area as well as every other area.
I believe you. I happen to be the other way round. I need hot things to feel good. Homeopathic hot things also help. Capsicum tincture is on hand for me to halt a tendency to strokes, and I take two teaspoons in a crss situaton (in wter, it's hot stuff!). In fact if I get anywhere near Sulphur, I have the most terrible systemic response.
My system goes cold to its core, literally a frozen bones feeling and I cannot move, then I swell up and it gets worse from there. My entire system shuts down. This is not cool, despite how it feels.
It's more likely to help me than you I suspect
From what you say, you already proved that as a cool person, it is Sulphur that keeps you cool, and hot stuff that undermines your cool. Being potentized won't change that.
No but you might swim in a sulphured pool. Some people use sulphur instead of chlorine. I cannot go near such a pool, nor eat sulphured fruit etc. They sulphured the pool at the stroke rehab place. I could not do the water therapy (as I found out after entering the pool, exiting already swelling up and freezing - and I suffered for weeks.) I've made the HUGE mistake of trying homeopathic sulphur. Now I will not even have it in my house

In your shoes, I'd stick with Sulphur:-)
In mine, I'll stick with capsicum, plain or potentized.

Namaste,
Irene

REPLY TO: only
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

Irene
If you stop eating 4 hours before bedtime and sleep 8 hours, that is a daily
12 hours of ‘fasting.’ I know of no one that supports going to sleep on a full
stomach
From: Irene de Villiers
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 11:20 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Appetite suppressants?
It is not "resting" form lack of nutrients then. There's no comparison.
Sleep is essential to lowering the cortisol built up during the day, and for healing in general, which hapens twice as fast during sleep - unless tyhe nutrients to work with, have been deprived, as in fasting!

Nobody is questioning the value of sleep, meditaton etc - just the value of failing to provdie the nutrients used during these times.
Promoted by many does not equal beneficial. It is especially NOT beneficial to go without nutrients more than 8 hrs in many situations.
We call is breaking the fast that occurs during sleep of 8 hrs of so.
The liver is designed to kick in and convert muscle to glucose if you fail to eat for longer than 8 hrs. The body does NOT benefit by protein breakdown.

The fast during sleep is not what was meant in this discussion by "fasting" - and I am sure you know that!

I see nothing in these excuses to suggest any benefit from fasting as we are discussing it.
If one generally eats poison, I suppose there would be benefit to stopping eaating that. But I am assuming a person who cares at all about their health, is not eating poison or will stop doing so rather than fasting and depleting ALL nutrients.

Namaste,
Irene

REPLY TO: only
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."