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Re: The first duty . . .

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 8:48 am
by Irene de Villiers
Glad we agree on that point.
WHy do you assume that?
Have you perhaps never done teaching or research?
I do both.
However I am good at it because it is NOT a one-way street.
That would be lecturing and making mud pies respectively:-)

Teaching (in the health care field) involves knowing what you are teaching, to whom you are teaching it and why, and what effect it will have to heal or cure if you teach it the right way. This is proved for example by Hahnemann's teaching. Look at all the people here benefitting from his teaching, HE s not in practice daily as you suggest is needed (unless he does it "on the OT on the other side"!)
But his teaching is still effective daily and causes cures and healings to happen.

Same goes for research. Hahnemann's research into homeopathy, provings, potency etc - is still helping to result in cures today.

AU contraire, as teaching and/or research can result in MULTIPLE cures and healings per day:-)

Sorry, no.
Namaste,
Irene

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P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
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"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

Re: The first duty . . .

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 8:29 pm
by Dr.Roy
Seriously my friend!!!
I respect only those who practice and simultaneously teach of research. Because I do both. I actuality would like to clarify here my status “ I am doing research on the most controversial point till date. The fifty millesimal scale or you can say Q potency of homoeopathy.” I do teach and practice at the same time. Although I have a lot of things to do in my practice and knowledge of medicine. I do not discriminate Allopathy and Homoeopathy at all. I use allopathic clinical findings to show my fellow learners how homoeopathy works and how I think an evidence based homoeopathic practice can be done according to my point of view.
If you do practice with research or teaching then I respect you totally (although I haven’t met you). I put more emphasis on practice because it doesn’t let physician to derail from the basic function of a doctor which is to cure. I hate those who only do teach or only research.
My point of view is that the physician has to constantly study and research his own work otherwise how can he teach what is factually right in his knowledge. I have seen many professors do only teaching infect I still feel being victimised by them. I did study thoroughly as they taught and when I got in medical practice I had to restudy everything on my own. In my experience those who get high scale salary and for that those who only teach and don’t practice, need nothing but showmanship.
When I started teaching I actually worked really hard to understand what right and what wrong in what I do. The thing is, one has to show the learners to learn about failure otherwise they will fail and eventually leave practice. I don’t want that. The irony is, I had 70 classmates when I joined my 5 and ½ years homoeopathic graduate programme and out of that only 2 students including me are doing homoeopathy. I don’t want it to happen again. So when I got chance to learn I learned everything to teach as I practice. In that I teach for free and those who seek to know possibility of their failure, I assist them to understand by my logic, knowledge and experience.
I am not good doctor but I am still working enough so that at least I won’t be bad to anyone.
I just put forth my idea and understanding of 1st aphorism. I don’t respect Hahnemann instead I respect his work. I am not worshiper or lover but just a simple medical worker.

I am still researching. Hopefully if my study completes, I will be able to show my research to you.
I mean no disrespect but usually have been misunderstood by hundreds of people.

Dr. Roy
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Irene de Villiers
Sent: 13 August 2013 12:18
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] The first duty . . .
Glad we agree on that point.
WHy do you assume that?
Have you perhaps never done teaching or research?
I do both.
However I am good at it because it is NOT a one-way street.
That would be lecturing and making mud pies respectively:-)

Teaching (in the health care field) involves knowing what you are teaching, to whom you are teaching it and why, and what effect it will have to heal or cure if you teach it the right way. This is proved for example by Hahnemann's teaching. Look at all the people here benefitting from his teaching, HE s not in practice daily as you suggest is needed (unless he does it "on the OT on the other side"!)
But his teaching is still effective daily and causes cures and healings to happen.

Same goes for research. Hahnemann's research into homeopathy, provings, potency etc - is still helping to result in cures today.

AU contraire, as teaching and/or research can result in MULTIPLE cures and healings per day:-)

Sorry, no.
Namaste,
Irene

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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

Re: The first duty . . .

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 2:01 am
by Irene de Villiers
We do indeed have a choice of whom to respect :-)
When you say "research on" - what is the research about?
And what is the controversy you speak of?
I can live without your "total respect", I must choose my path and it is self respect that counts most:-)
And how do your patients like your feelings of hate? Some of them likely "only" teach/research.
Hate is a strong emotion and does not lead to anything positive.
Yes but you do not need patients to do that:-)
Someone else can have patients and document things which you can read and use in research.
That way you can check out multiple people's work to see what is good or bad, not just one person's feedback - which if it is your own work will be subjective feedback and that's not ideal :-)
AH. This shows that there was no real teaching.
What school "teaches" that way?

A REAL teacher does not give you information to study, because information in one year/week etc is not the same as information the next year, especially in medicine. Is that why Doctors are always so completely out of date?

A REAL teacher, teaches you HOW to think and HOW to study and HOW to interpret science and research so you ALWAYS stay current and know how to do so - they do not teach you WHAT to think or WHAT to memorize! It's YOUR job to figure that out, in an ongoing way, using the teaching of HOW to do it well:-)
I also teach for free - but I teach HOW to learn/study/interpret, etc - HOW to judge the value of something.
I do not teach information.
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day - but TEACH a man to fish, and he's set for life.
Same with teaching:
Teach information and it lasts a day.
Teach HOW to study and it lasts a lifetime.
Is that why you want "daily" practice?
Well...you are passionate about learning.

Namaste,
Irene

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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

Re: The first duty . . .

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:07 am
by Dr.Roy
Well Irene,

before I put forth my thoughts. But ok, thanks to you I have got to learn
that. My thoughts were about functions of physician in a society as dictated
by Hahnemann.
Its OK, I M SORRY for that.
It will never happen again.
Dr. ROy

Re: The first duty . . .

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 5:27 pm
by Ginny Wilken
Roy, you seem to be an honest and not arrogant guy who is just learning many things. In homeopathy one remains a student forever, so no harm done - and no apology needed yet:) You will always get good answers to sincere questions here, and some steering in a good direction should you make an extravagant statement. I hope you continue to contribute, and to take comments as they are intended for their value.

Sincerely,

ginny

All stunts performed without a net!

Re: The first duty . . .

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:05 am
by Irene de Villiers
Roy I agree with Ginny.I
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."