Re: Socialism and health
Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:40 pm
Thank you for sharing this interesting piece of your history.
All of it is so germaine today. Much of what you discuss has
been, is being, resurrected by todays organic an sustainable farmers.
Years ago when macrobiotcs was gaining some popularity here, one
of their concepts was to eat food grown in season and to eat what
was grown locally. This is related to what grows naturally in a given
place.
Another of the salient points you make is the importance of biodiversity.
This involves not only rotating crops or grazing fields, but also producing
a variety of agricultural produce. This is very important for the economic
survival of a farmer, and even a home gardener. If one crop fails for some
reason, there are others to get your thru. Even growing different varieties
of the same items; ie, several varieties of corn (Mexico), or several varieties
of tomatoes in the same family garden. I usually have 3 or 4 varieties each
summer.
And homeopathy in farming and gardens is getting some attention today.
V. Kaviraj who passed this past winter was an amazing treasure to us. He
was so helpful to me personally in my garden and wrote the first book on
this topic. He did a second edition before passing. We now have a book
by Christiane Maute on this topic, altho I have not seen it yet. Mark Moodie
has been promoting some homeopathy via his Considera group (http://www.considera.org ).
He has a page on Homeopathy World Community. So there are efforts
growing in this field.
For myself, I am such a newbie to homeopathy in the garden, but it has
worked for me with several problems that crept into my soil over the years.
If it weren’t for the remedies, I would not have any produce at all. Of course
rebuilding the soil; ie, improving the terrain, is critical and that is an ongoing
effort.
Many organic farmers around here have no problems due to the health of their
soils. Several of them have no fencing on their property and they report no
deer problems, or rabbits either. These are 2 of the common predators in my
region. I had to put up an 8 ft fence years ago to keep the deer out. My
soil was never enriched sufficiently.
So yes, the old information has been collected from any sources with attempts
to collect it in books and disseminated via workshops, lectures, and even
colleges. You are correct that it is very important.
t
From: Irene de Villiers
Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2013 6:06 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Socialism and health
Homeopathy should also help with your crops?
I have two purple thumbs so it would be a very bad idea if I tried to farm. I can hardly grow radishes.
But I come from a large family of farmers, each with their own small farm. By large I mean my dad's dad had 11 siblings and his mom had 13 siblings (I had great aunts and great uncles coming out of the woodwork, never quite understood/believed it as a child - nobody could have that many surely and ALL on farms?), and they all lived off their farm produce and lived to an average age of 105 years. They worked extremely hard, were extremely fit, healthy and happy, and I suspect that an enormous volume of farming knowledge, including homeopathy, as there were homeopaths in the family dating way back, died with them.
The library of inherited homeopathy books went to my cousin (the eldest of the cousins) and it was she who first taught me homeopathy.
I wish I remembered all the wisdoms of this amazing generation. I know one key was to ensure they had the right fruit, animals, veg, fruit or whatever for the climate and soil and especially the *slope* of the land visa vis the sun. So they lived all over the place and no two farmed the same things. Always it has to do with what was best suited to where they were. My gran was in what is now Harare, and her farm was Cape gooseberrieis, pineapples and pawpaws. Uncle Tin had pheasants, and kudu. Another great uncle had dairy cows and teff, and made a good living from cream, butter, milk, cheese, yogurt etc - plus teff products. (Teff was great to use in poor years to supplement feed). His brother had nectarines, peaches, quinces and apricots, and grew veg between the orchard rows. Some years one did better, other years the opposite. Another had pork with a factory for sausage and we'd joked that the pigs went in one end and came out the other squished into tubes. Another had merino sheep, very hardy and usable for meat or wool or sheep milk products. And so it went; But they'd all scoff at anyone who told them *what* to farm - they said the situation and soil told them what to farm. That it could not be forced or there'd be problems. They alternated one set of things with another or had more than one "string to the bow" to get results in dry or wet times. I wish I remembered more but it was all back in the 50s and 60s I went to their farms, and they were all in their 90s and 100s then.
They just must have had an enormous knowledge passed down over generations, for small organic farming - not that it was called organic farming back then!
I wonder if there is a record anywhere of their and other accumulated generations of knowledge and wisdom somewhere - or was it all word of mouth. know there were homeopathy books (with fascinating case notes in the margins) but I remember no farming books. I suspect too many extremely valuable pearls of wisdom go with the older generations, with them to the grave, that we are finally coming to realize are truly valuable after all.
Being "modern" s not always the best way..........
Namaste,
Irene
REPLY TO: only
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."
All of it is so germaine today. Much of what you discuss has
been, is being, resurrected by todays organic an sustainable farmers.
Years ago when macrobiotcs was gaining some popularity here, one
of their concepts was to eat food grown in season and to eat what
was grown locally. This is related to what grows naturally in a given
place.
Another of the salient points you make is the importance of biodiversity.
This involves not only rotating crops or grazing fields, but also producing
a variety of agricultural produce. This is very important for the economic
survival of a farmer, and even a home gardener. If one crop fails for some
reason, there are others to get your thru. Even growing different varieties
of the same items; ie, several varieties of corn (Mexico), or several varieties
of tomatoes in the same family garden. I usually have 3 or 4 varieties each
summer.
And homeopathy in farming and gardens is getting some attention today.
V. Kaviraj who passed this past winter was an amazing treasure to us. He
was so helpful to me personally in my garden and wrote the first book on
this topic. He did a second edition before passing. We now have a book
by Christiane Maute on this topic, altho I have not seen it yet. Mark Moodie
has been promoting some homeopathy via his Considera group (http://www.considera.org ).
He has a page on Homeopathy World Community. So there are efforts
growing in this field.
For myself, I am such a newbie to homeopathy in the garden, but it has
worked for me with several problems that crept into my soil over the years.
If it weren’t for the remedies, I would not have any produce at all. Of course
rebuilding the soil; ie, improving the terrain, is critical and that is an ongoing
effort.
Many organic farmers around here have no problems due to the health of their
soils. Several of them have no fencing on their property and they report no
deer problems, or rabbits either. These are 2 of the common predators in my
region. I had to put up an 8 ft fence years ago to keep the deer out. My
soil was never enriched sufficiently.
So yes, the old information has been collected from any sources with attempts
to collect it in books and disseminated via workshops, lectures, and even
colleges. You are correct that it is very important.
t
From: Irene de Villiers
Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2013 6:06 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Socialism and health
Homeopathy should also help with your crops?
I have two purple thumbs so it would be a very bad idea if I tried to farm. I can hardly grow radishes.
But I come from a large family of farmers, each with their own small farm. By large I mean my dad's dad had 11 siblings and his mom had 13 siblings (I had great aunts and great uncles coming out of the woodwork, never quite understood/believed it as a child - nobody could have that many surely and ALL on farms?), and they all lived off their farm produce and lived to an average age of 105 years. They worked extremely hard, were extremely fit, healthy and happy, and I suspect that an enormous volume of farming knowledge, including homeopathy, as there were homeopaths in the family dating way back, died with them.
The library of inherited homeopathy books went to my cousin (the eldest of the cousins) and it was she who first taught me homeopathy.
I wish I remembered all the wisdoms of this amazing generation. I know one key was to ensure they had the right fruit, animals, veg, fruit or whatever for the climate and soil and especially the *slope* of the land visa vis the sun. So they lived all over the place and no two farmed the same things. Always it has to do with what was best suited to where they were. My gran was in what is now Harare, and her farm was Cape gooseberrieis, pineapples and pawpaws. Uncle Tin had pheasants, and kudu. Another great uncle had dairy cows and teff, and made a good living from cream, butter, milk, cheese, yogurt etc - plus teff products. (Teff was great to use in poor years to supplement feed). His brother had nectarines, peaches, quinces and apricots, and grew veg between the orchard rows. Some years one did better, other years the opposite. Another had pork with a factory for sausage and we'd joked that the pigs went in one end and came out the other squished into tubes. Another had merino sheep, very hardy and usable for meat or wool or sheep milk products. And so it went; But they'd all scoff at anyone who told them *what* to farm - they said the situation and soil told them what to farm. That it could not be forced or there'd be problems. They alternated one set of things with another or had more than one "string to the bow" to get results in dry or wet times. I wish I remembered more but it was all back in the 50s and 60s I went to their farms, and they were all in their 90s and 100s then.
They just must have had an enormous knowledge passed down over generations, for small organic farming - not that it was called organic farming back then!
I wonder if there is a record anywhere of their and other accumulated generations of knowledge and wisdom somewhere - or was it all word of mouth. know there were homeopathy books (with fascinating case notes in the margins) but I remember no farming books. I suspect too many extremely valuable pearls of wisdom go with the older generations, with them to the grave, that we are finally coming to realize are truly valuable after all.
Being "modern" s not always the best way..........
Namaste,
Irene
REPLY TO: only
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."
