Minutus

Thanks for the Rubrics Dave. I have put that Rubric and Rx into my CaraPro
now!! Unfortunately the Rx I;ve been looking at isn;t there but that may nor
stop me giving it!!

Regards,
Rochelle
www.rochellemarsden.co.uk

I always think of Repertorization as an inclusive rather than exclusive
means of entree into investigating potential simillimum in Materia Medica.
It is entirely possible that a remedy which seems like a close match is not
present in a certain rubric, then on further investigation one may find the
remedy possesses something similar, which was simply not (for whatever
reason) extracted and placed into Repertory.. or WAS, though in different
words.
Unless a particular rubric is VERY specific and VERY characterizing of your
case, it's a mistake to use it as an "elimination rubric" (one which MUST be
present for a remedy to be considered) and even then...
The Repertory is the INDEX to the Materia Medica.
It's purpose is to help guide us to likely remedies for further study in the
Materia Medica.
I would NEVER consider giving a remedy based on Repertorization alone..
unless the Repertorization brought up a remedy that I know QUITE well, and I
decided it was a PERFECT match.
Every instance of Repertorization and subsequent checking & double-checking
in Materia Medica is an opportunity to learn Materia Medica.
Dave Hartley
www.localcomputermart.com/dave
Santa Cruz, CA (831)423-4284

I agree with everything you wrote. This is the way I work.

Now anyone who has been following the case, please read Carbo. Veg. ,
preferably the article on the constitutional picture as presented in the
Links journal. It fits the modalities of the colitis and possibly the
constitutional picture in this article!! This is the Rx I am thinking of
giving.

I will read into Joy's suggestion in the morning as I am too tired now.
Regards,
Rochelle
www.rochellemarsden.co.uk

Dear Joy,
I can see where you are coming from with both Nat Phos and Calc Sulp.I have
done a lot of reading this morning!!
Re Nat Phos I found

Essence : They have the delusion that there is something that they
cannot talk about.

This I do not see at all. He was extremely open and nothing appeared hidden.
Also there is involuntary stool with flatus but he was at great pains to
point out to me that the stool is fine it is involuntary mucus on flatus and
this is what he finds so disturbing as it happens so often. (Now Us woman
would be able to deal with this with a panty liner!!! )

Calc Sulph. is very interesting but I would be happier if I were able to
confirm some more key notes of this Rx. Has there been any suppuration in
the past. I liked the feeling that he is not appreciated which came out to
me with the way he talked about his wife.

Thanks for your contribution. I still haven't made up my mind on this one
but would be interested to know what others make of Carbo Veg , looking at
the constitutional picture as a lot of his modalities concerning the colitis
are there.

Regards,
Rochelle
www.rochellemarsden.co.uk

Dear Joy,
I can see where you are coming from with both Nat Phos and Calc Sulp.I have
done a lot of reading this morning!!
Re Nat Phos I found

Essence : They have the delusion that there is something that they
cannot talk about.

This I do not see at all. He was extremely open and nothing appeared hidden.
Also there is involuntary stool with flatus but he was at great pains to
point out to me that the stool is fine it is involuntary mucus on flatus and
this is what he finds so disturbing as it happens so often. (Now Us woman
would be able to deal with this with a panty liner!!! )

Calc Sulph. is very interesting but I would be happier if I were able to
confirm some more key notes of this Rx. Has there been any suppuration in
the past. I liked the feeling that he is not appreciated which came out to
me with the way he talked about his wife.

Thanks for your contribution. I still haven't made up my mind on this one
but would be interested to know what others make of Carbo Veg , looking at
the constitutional picture as a lot of his modalities concerning the colitis
are there.

Regards,
Rochelle
www.rochellemarsden.co.uk

Dear Rochelle, just a few extra notes re: your case.

1) Natrum Phos - yes they do have secrets and carry the burden of them
around with them all the time. But this is all to do with communication of
which they are very sensitive about. They do like to communicate but only at
their level (so the secret can be suppressed). They are kind, delicate and
respect others feelings and, to quote Scholten "they are subtle and
sensitive in the way they treat others" - and they expect that back in
return. I was picking this up in the way you wrote about your clients
reaction to his work colleagues.

He has obviously got the susceptibility to ulcerative colitis and diabetes
but is there anything in his life situation which has opened to the door to
these very serious conditions - is there an obvious aetiology? Ulcerative
colitis is often considered a pre-cancerous condition - and there is very
often a history here of suppression on all spheres - so maybe he does have
secrets, he just hasn't told them to you yet. Even nice, open people can
have secrets.

2) Calc Sulph - not a great deal known about this remedy. I have prescribed
it only twice. Apart from what i have already written to you before it is
worth reading Scholten, Candegabe, Sankaran and here is a bit from
Phatak....

affects glands, mucous membranes, bones and skin. Tendency to suppuration.
Pus is thick, yellow, lumpy and bloody. Abscess and ulcers, malignancy after
ulceration has set in (the pre-cancerous state). Always better in the open
air.

Also, from Clarke... Schussler distributes the function of Calc Sulph
somewhere betweem Silicea and Nat Phos!
Plus they are very fussy about their appearance (this might be the haughty
Sulphur aspect)

3) Carbo veg. - perhaps you can tell us why you see this remedy for your
client. I cannot see it at all excepting that it might help on an acute
level. Anyone with digestive disturbance can be >> for a bit of charcoal.
But Carbo Veg is sluggish, indolent, cold (although they need to be fanned),
they have a dull mind and find it difficult comprehending. There is
indifference, indecision and they are irresolute. Everything is worse lying
down because this << the stagnation which rules this remedy. Remember Carbo
Veg is often called the corpse reviver!! This doesn't sound like the way you
wrote about your client.

Yes it might cover the physical sx and be worthy of an acute remedy for him
but there is probably a number of remedies which will do this. It has a
strong alignment with Lycopodium.

There are just my thoughts and experience.

best wishes, Joy Lucas

Dear Joy,
Thank you so much for the extra explaination for Nat Phos and Caic Sulph.
Here is the relevent part of what I found on Carbo Veg. Please let me know
what you think.
Regards, Rochelle

REMEDY NAME:Carbo veg

Dr W.Springer, Switzerland
From the Lindau seminar, June 12-15, 1997, by Heinz Wittwer, Switzerland.
Most of the homeopaths are familiar with the acute Carbo vegetabilis
picture. The personality of the constitutional type however is generally
not known, because it has not yet been described. The following is
therefore an attempt to sketch the full picture based on repertory rubrics
and personal experience.

Think of the charcoal, when it is put into a fire. It produces a lot of
heat for a very long time. Similarly the Carbo vegetabilis personality is
one of excessive vitality. A typical example would be a businessman who
occasionally does not leave his office in the evening but keeps on working
during the whole night. Then at dawn he goes home just to take a shower,
put on a new shirt and have breakfast before returning to his office again.
Therefore Carbo vegetabilis is usually very successful at his job. A fat,
sluggish and lazy (Phatak) patient who needs this remedy, is an exception
according to our experience.
Carbo vegetabilis has many traits in common with Nux vomica. He is
materialistic, extravagant and loves a good meal (Vithoulkas: gourmand). He
however is not primarily a social person, but feels uncomfortable
especially among strangers. He may have a red face due to a lot of small
veins which are visible.
The essence of the Carbo vegetabilis personality lies in the quick change
between the two states described above. In his good and healthy days he is
full of strength and energy. But once he catches a virus or is struck by a
disease, his life force sinks very rapidly and drastically. His health
deteriorates quickly and he soon reaches a serious, maybe life-threatening
state. This fall from extreme heights of vitality to complete weakness and
exhaustion usually happens on the physical as well as on the mental sphere.
On the other hand however recovery from these lowlands of health is usually
quick too. As fast as they can move into a severe state, as quickly they
can get out of it again. So the constitutional Carbo vegetabilis patient is
characterized by extreme energy levels. Enormous power or deadly weakness,
and nothing much in between.

www.rochellemarsden.co.uk

Dear Rochelle, excellent, thanks for his. I have also been reading up a bit
more about Carbo Veg. afterall he is your client and you are the one who has
taken the case. You are keen on this remedy and its got me thinking - it is
always good to re-read rx you think you know.

So Carbo Veg does have periodicity, does have an affinity with diabetic
states, (he is on a lot of medication and without this the picture might be
more clearly one of the worn out state of Carbo veg) and I found delusion
walls of room seem falling inward - and this kind of relates to his dreams
of confined spaces and having to overcome this obstacle. He said these
dreams represent things in his childhood, do you know what he meant by this
- has his whole life been about getting over obstacles. I am also re-reading
his attitude to his wife as being somewhat indifferent, which fits. He does
seem to have a preference for being on his own - and with this kind of
digestive discomfort it is easy to see why and this also fits the rx.

Its great to learn so much more about abour remedies. Thanks for the prompt.

Vithoulkas also says there often aren't many strong emotional/mental sx with
this remedy, and the physical sx certainly predominate here. I think you
could use this remedy with confidence, at least initially to deal with the
acute phase and who knows what other levels it will work on.

Good luck and best wishes, Joy
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Thanks Joy so much for your reply. I didn't want to put my thoughts of
remedy until I had other people's ideas. I still like your reasoning for
Calc. Sulph and am wondering if underneath he is plain Calc.

I will contact him and start him off on repeated 30c of Carbo Veg because of
all the medication he is on. If I get any type of positive result I will go
up in potency.

I have another difficult one I have been working on all day and still return
to my original idea. Will post it soon.

If there are any other thoughts from anyone on this case I will still be
pleased to hear them.

Regards, Rochelle
www.rochellemarsden.co.uk

Rochelle,

I would think if he was more independent he would have been more particular.
He is the fourth husband so he should have suspected something. Is he sorry
he got married or that he married that particular woman?

russell swift, dvm