Re: Cancer? ...was Magnesium hydrate
Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 3:00 pm
> It's interesting that you (Carmi Hazen) mentioned the alkalinity of the body as a prerequisite for recovery from cancer.
=Adding alkalinity to the body is necessary to counter excess acidity in the circulatory fluids. Doing so increases oxygenation which is required to restore homeostasis. However, this will only slow down the cancer temporarily as it adjusts to the changed environment. Within the cancer the alkalinity is actually excessive and adding more alkalinity will only make matters worse. High dose alkalinity was the basis for the H.E. Sartori protocol which was improved upon by A. Keith Brewer. It is the most effective "end stage" treatment protocol and has turned many terminal cases around at the 11th hour. It can only be used for short periods of time and will kill the patient if continued too long.
It is not a prerequisite - a too alkaline blood results in 50% cancer rate. Carmi's theories do not hold any water.
=I did not say that alkalinity of the body is a precursor for cancer. What I said was that the blood is too alkaline, not the entire body with its various fluids. Within the tumors the pH is very different than outside of them. Their biological processes produce massive amounts of excreted lactic acid. As more and more acid accumulates, the blood draws out more alkalininty from the reserves and then from muscle and bone. The pH of the blood will be high. All of this is covered and documented in my book.
One needs a correct pH to be healthy - not alkaline, not acidic, but ideal. And it is by no means the only relevant factor in cancer recovery.
In the case I referred to for example, there was very alkaline pH (blood pH is what I refer to) when breast cancer occurred. Homeopathy fixed the cancer - but still there is the continued alkaline pH due to another underlying issue.
=I never said anything different and I totally agree with your last statement. You are reading much more into my statements than what I actually said.
Blogs are not useful as sources of any valid information - you need to use scientific works.
The claim here is that:
"There is little dispute that cancer is an ACIDIC condition which can be measured in terms of tumor pH."
Au contraire - there is ALL kinds of dispute - saying there is not, does not make it true! Anyone can make an unsubstantiated claim.
pH is not a determinant for possibility or probability of cancers forming. They form equally well in acidic or alkaline environment.
=I agree. What do you claim I said to the contrary? I don't recall making such statements. pH does in fact control pleomorphic transformation. Don't get on the "scientific" kick. There is nothing "scientific" about modern medicine, its all guess work and is most often wrong. Such terms are used to cloak gross ignorance. I never said that cancer was an acidic condition. Never have and never will. Where did you get that from? It didn't come from me.
There's a lot of hype out there about becoming more alkaline - it's incorrect!
The body functions optimally at the correct pH of blood and body tissues . Not more acidic. Not more alkaline.
The optimal pH is likely close to pH of 7.4. At this pH the body has the most efficient absorption and use of nutrients. Symptoms of illness tend to show if pH is outside the range of 7.35 to 7.45.
(Some claimed experts say 7.365 is ideal; others claim 7.461 is optimal for absorbing nutrients - they do not say which nutrients - but that is above the pH at which symptoms of illness occur.)
The point it - Most illnesses cause skewing of the pH, either to more alkaline (resulting in up to 50% cancer rates) or to more acidic - also resulting in increased cancer rates though I do to know the percentage.
Until someone proves otherwise, I consider pH to be an indicator of health and metabolic balance or imbalance and not a precursor of any specific situation such as cancer.
=No, pH is the control mechanism for pleomorphism. Rife & Kendall proved this beyond any doubt. Metabolic and hormonal imbalance produces shifts in pH, that is true, but saliva and urine testing only indicate the state at the moment as it changes throughout the day due to many factors including but not limited to diet. A far better test is to measure the urine phosphorus to calcium ratio. I also cover that in my book. A pH of 7.461 is highly indicative of cancer or some other degenerative disease going on somewhere in the body.
Www.lulu.com/comdyne Caveat Emptor! Carmi Hazen
=Adding alkalinity to the body is necessary to counter excess acidity in the circulatory fluids. Doing so increases oxygenation which is required to restore homeostasis. However, this will only slow down the cancer temporarily as it adjusts to the changed environment. Within the cancer the alkalinity is actually excessive and adding more alkalinity will only make matters worse. High dose alkalinity was the basis for the H.E. Sartori protocol which was improved upon by A. Keith Brewer. It is the most effective "end stage" treatment protocol and has turned many terminal cases around at the 11th hour. It can only be used for short periods of time and will kill the patient if continued too long.
It is not a prerequisite - a too alkaline blood results in 50% cancer rate. Carmi's theories do not hold any water.
=I did not say that alkalinity of the body is a precursor for cancer. What I said was that the blood is too alkaline, not the entire body with its various fluids. Within the tumors the pH is very different than outside of them. Their biological processes produce massive amounts of excreted lactic acid. As more and more acid accumulates, the blood draws out more alkalininty from the reserves and then from muscle and bone. The pH of the blood will be high. All of this is covered and documented in my book.
One needs a correct pH to be healthy - not alkaline, not acidic, but ideal. And it is by no means the only relevant factor in cancer recovery.
In the case I referred to for example, there was very alkaline pH (blood pH is what I refer to) when breast cancer occurred. Homeopathy fixed the cancer - but still there is the continued alkaline pH due to another underlying issue.
=I never said anything different and I totally agree with your last statement. You are reading much more into my statements than what I actually said.
Blogs are not useful as sources of any valid information - you need to use scientific works.
The claim here is that:
"There is little dispute that cancer is an ACIDIC condition which can be measured in terms of tumor pH."
Au contraire - there is ALL kinds of dispute - saying there is not, does not make it true! Anyone can make an unsubstantiated claim.
pH is not a determinant for possibility or probability of cancers forming. They form equally well in acidic or alkaline environment.
=I agree. What do you claim I said to the contrary? I don't recall making such statements. pH does in fact control pleomorphic transformation. Don't get on the "scientific" kick. There is nothing "scientific" about modern medicine, its all guess work and is most often wrong. Such terms are used to cloak gross ignorance. I never said that cancer was an acidic condition. Never have and never will. Where did you get that from? It didn't come from me.
There's a lot of hype out there about becoming more alkaline - it's incorrect!
The body functions optimally at the correct pH of blood and body tissues . Not more acidic. Not more alkaline.
The optimal pH is likely close to pH of 7.4. At this pH the body has the most efficient absorption and use of nutrients. Symptoms of illness tend to show if pH is outside the range of 7.35 to 7.45.
(Some claimed experts say 7.365 is ideal; others claim 7.461 is optimal for absorbing nutrients - they do not say which nutrients - but that is above the pH at which symptoms of illness occur.)
The point it - Most illnesses cause skewing of the pH, either to more alkaline (resulting in up to 50% cancer rates) or to more acidic - also resulting in increased cancer rates though I do to know the percentage.
Until someone proves otherwise, I consider pH to be an indicator of health and metabolic balance or imbalance and not a precursor of any specific situation such as cancer.
=No, pH is the control mechanism for pleomorphism. Rife & Kendall proved this beyond any doubt. Metabolic and hormonal imbalance produces shifts in pH, that is true, but saliva and urine testing only indicate the state at the moment as it changes throughout the day due to many factors including but not limited to diet. A far better test is to measure the urine phosphorus to calcium ratio. I also cover that in my book. A pH of 7.461 is highly indicative of cancer or some other degenerative disease going on somewhere in the body.
Www.lulu.com/comdyne Caveat Emptor! Carmi Hazen