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RichardS
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Re: compulsive hunger from starvation or poverty

Post by RichardS »

Hello Didi,
I found the queries from Soroush to be not only legitimate, given the context in which you included them in your original post, but they were framed in a legitimately professional way.

This is a highly relevant example of how the consortium of "apologetics" and those who seek to re-define Homeopathy and it's practice to include everything under the sun, react when asked the most basic of peer review questions. This set of reactions is very telling.

This is a medical science we are practicing. If you were a member of a radiology group that had a mission statement regarding what radiology was and how it was used and you constantly tried to redefine the mission statement or what radiology actually was or could be, you would get the same reactions from the members of that group.

And please do let Minutus know if you you cure any of these "compulsive hunger from starvation or poverty cases" with a single dose of a flower rx. We would be very eager to hear about them.

Best regards,
Rik
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Hart Matthews
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Re: compulsive hunger from starvation or poverty

Post by Hart Matthews »

Hi Didi,

I have had success with Natrum arsenicosum in a case where the patient was afraid not to have food in the house, a sort of delusion that she would starve or that she was poor even though she is quite affluent even by American standards. She has a compulsive hunger for acquiring things, and acquiring food is part of the pattern. I don't think her physical hunger qualifies as compulsive, though I could see how in another person it might (please pardon the speculation, everyone; Nat-ar is listed in the Complete under Stomach: Appetite: Ravenous).

This feeling arose in her from a very unstable and impoverished childhood where, in fact, her father might disappear for weeks at a time and there might not be food to eat.

The picture in this particular case looked a bit like Pulsatilla but extremely chilly and maybe withdrawing from contact more than Pulsatilla would. Sentiment, weepiness, religiosity, craving for open air, digestive issues centering around the liver, desiring cheese but aggravated by it, a strong bronchitis recurring in the winter months with a green expectoration that could easily go to pneumonia, with a general physical sinking. Unlike the other Natrums, a love of sun.

Blessings,
Hart


Ananda Ruchira
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Re: compulsive hunger from starvation or poverty

Post by Ananda Ruchira »

Dear Rik
RE: AS FOR BACH, TS, AUSSIEs etc
I concede that these are not classified as "classical homeopathic" as pointed out by others.
My apologies.

In the future, I request any readers to write me personally, off-list that is, with their remedy suggestions when I make such blunderous comments and ill treat my classical philosophers by mentioning those great defectors of homeopathy of the past.
Rik wrote:

Thank you for the invitation. If I do I will.
Sincerely,
Didi Ananda Ruchira | Director | Tels: +254 (0)733-895466 / +254 (0)723-869133 | www.abhalight.org


John Harvey
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Re: compulsive hunger from starvation or poverty

Post by John Harvey »

Hi, Didi --

I think that you may have misunderstood the sensitivities of your "classical philosophers" in assuming that they don't like discussion of alternatives to homoeopathy. What Soroush and Rik made, I think, plain is their dislike (like mine) not of the topic but of confusion of all the other reasons for prescribing a medicine with the homoeopathic reason. To call "flower remedies" and tissue salts

The problem with your post, the problem that had others questioning your understanding, was not that you wished to discuss alternatives on this list. It was that you explicitly and mistakenly claimed for those alternatives that:
“[they are] still within the greater body of homeopathically prepared remedies, qualify as ‘simples’, qualify as ‘smallest dose’, they have their respective materia medicas and… can be applied as single dose (hence ‘classically’) if a person chooses… they are homeopathic remedies!”
It seems to me that it's absolutely clear that it was your own confusion of prescription (on any basis) of any potentised substance as meriting its description as homoeopathic that caused the problem, and not your wish to discuss relative merits.

It would advance discussion if you were to honestly acknowledge the inappropriateness as well as the inaccuracy of that confusion rather than to treat the responses you obtained to it as an intolerance of the subject of interest to you.

Your earlier post didn't suggest to me an inclination on your part to try to mix homoeopathic and other prescriptions; and on that basis I rather thought, with you, that Soroush was mistaken in inferring (as his questions suggested) polypharmacy from it. But your later post positively claimed that use of a single medicine listed in a materia medica sufficed to make its prescription homoeopathy. It's in that, I'm afraid, that the real bone of contention lies, not in your wish to explore other avenues, which all of us would probably take more or less interest in.

Kind regards,

John


Dale Moss
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Re: compulsive hunger from starvation or poverty

Post by Dale Moss »

Hi, Didi
A couple of years ago you posted an inquiry about obsessive eating in kids who'd been orphaned or abandoned. I came across it while organizing my e-mails and wondered if you'd gotten any help with the issue.
I would think that crossing the rubrics for excessive eating, hunger agg., fear of poverty, anxiety from hunger, etc., would provide more potential remedies. This would seem to require a sequence of remedies, including constitutional and a strong anti-psoric.
I know of nothing in Bach flower essences that might help, but there is a farm in New Hampshire, Green Hope, that makes flower essences. They have a line for animals that might offer some possibilities (thinking of dealing with rescue pets). Their website is www.greenhopeessences.com


Shannon Nelson
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Re: compulsive hunger from starvation or poverty

Post by Shannon Nelson »

Also I would consider whether "eating amel", and anac I would think among the possibilities. I guess one would need to explore whether the eating was from fear (of how long before another meal), or constant sensation of hunger, or from "eating amel" or something else.


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