Minutus

hi Dale
my son 15- months- now , was the same, until the age we turned the car seat so he could see me while driving. when he was 6 months (and still in rear position ) I put a mirror so he could see me ( at least back of my head to make sure mommy is around.)
well it is a suggestion that might help.

remedy wise: puls fits, however carbon-O can be a good fit too( as Gail suggested too), considering mom's state during pregnancy. deep sleep and cold hands.

interesting case, pls share the result.
best
A

--- On Tue, 3/8/11, Dale Moss wrote:

I was also wondering whether the mother has experimented with having a window slightly open so
there can be some fresh air - cars can be very stuffy.
Gail
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To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: AZADEH_RAZAVI@YAHOO.COM
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 19:34:30 -0800
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Baby who hates the car
hi Dale
my son 15- months- now , was the same, until the age we turned the car seat so he could see me while driving. when he was 6 months (and still in rear position ) I put a mirror so he could see me ( at least back of my head to make sure mommy is around.)
well it is a suggestion that might help.

remedy wise: puls fits, however carbon-O can be a good fit too( as Gail suggested too), considering mom's state during pregnancy. deep sleep and cold hands.

interesting case, pls share the result.
best
A

--- On Tue, 3/8/11, Dale Moss wrote:

and I should have checked before, now I see that Carbon Oxide is actually Carbon Monoxide,
I have been puzzling about that for the last couple of hours.
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To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: gail_m_allen@hotmail.com
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 11:59:36 +0800
Subject: RE: [Minutus] Baby who hates the car
I was also wondering whether the mother has experimented with having a window slightly open so
there can be some fresh air - cars can be very stuffy.
Gail
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To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: AZADEH_RAZAVI@YAHOO.COM
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 19:34:30 -0800
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Baby who hates the car

hi Dale
my son 15- months- now , was the same, until the age we turned the car seat so he could see me while driving. when he was 6 months (and still in rear position ) I put a mirror so he could see me ( at least back of my head to make sure mommy is around.)
well it is a suggestion that might help.

remedy wise: puls fits, however carbon-O can be a good fit too( as Gail suggested too), considering mom's state during pregnancy. deep sleep and cold hands.

interesting case, pls share the result.
best
A

--- On Tue, 3/8/11, Dale Moss wrote:

I never write. But today I am. My grandchild hated the car. He screamed coming home from the hospital. I had mom hold him and he still screamed.. He is now 11 and it is still difficult to get him into the car – He will ride home from school but does not want to stop for any errands… He does not like shopping – car involved – I do hope you cure this baby. The grandson is a warm and affectionate, smart kid but he sure made life difficult for years.

granthee
is it a fear of seperation, or movement of car?or being tied up?
how is her reaction in highchair?
azadeh
--- On Tue, 3/8/11, Dale Moss > wrote:

Dear Granthee
It would be essential to know the feelings or sensations he has when he has a ride in a car.

And are these the same irrespective of the mode of transport (bus, train, aircraft, ship/boat etc)?
Rgds

Soroush
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I never write. But today I am. My grandchild hated the car. He screamed coming home from the hospital. I had mom hold him and he still screamed.. He is now 11 and it is still difficult to get him into the car – He will ride home from school but does not want to stop for any errands… He does not like shopping – car involved – I do hope you cure this baby. The grandson is a warm and affectionate, smart kid but he sure made life difficult for years.

granthee
is it a fear of seperation, or movement of car?or being tied up?

how is her reaction in highchair?

azadeh
--- On Tue, 3/8/11, Dale Moss > wrote:
From: Dale Moss >
Subject: [Minutus] Baby who hates the car
To: "Minutus" >
Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2011, 6:07 PM
A mom brought her 4 month-old daughter to me today. Baby is healthy, no illnesses, curious, cheerful, cooing away and blowing spit bubbles like crazy. Breast-fed, not vaccinated, not even diapered (this mom, like many her age, believes in training herself to pick up on her baby's cues that she needs to pee or poop). Easy, natural delivery.
First thing the mom says: "She absolutely hates the car -- she hates not being held and being confined in a car seat. She'll be okay the first five minutes in the car, then she loses it and starts up with blood-curdling screams until the end of the trip. She doesn't fall asleep in the car. I'll nurse her, but as soon as I put her back in her car seat, she's devastated."
Baby likes the fresh air when she's cranky and doesn't like being overheated. She has cold hands and feet. She's not yet turning over, but she's already cut a tooth. Teething doesn't seem to be a big deal.
When very young, she would start screaming when the sun went down, as if terrified. The mom gave her Aconite, which appeared to help. Now as soon as the sun goes down, she wants to go to bed -- doesn't want any lights, though it's dark, and no stimulation. She'll sleep from 6 PM to 7 AM, waking only to nurse. She'll scream if her mom tries to nurse her when she doesn't want to nurse.
She's very sensitive to noise, which can wake her; she won't fall asleep while people are talking around her. She cried a lot as a newborn, especially at night.
I'm concerned about this baby because her mom became pregnant shortly after leaving a house where she suffered chronic carbon monoxide poisoning. The mom was suicidal throughout her first trimester, probably from the depression that can go with CO poisoning. She was also on a bit of an emotional roller coaster with her partner. All that has passed, and she's a highly engaged mom who carries her child close to her.
No fear of downward motion, so I ruled out Borax. The crying in the car is probably because her mom is not holding or carrying her, rather than from the movement of the car itself. But I've never seen this before -- I always thought a trip in the car was a guaranteed ticket to dreamland for fussy little ones. Not this baby, however!
I've been thinking of Stramonium, but this baby loves her bath. Any other ideas?
Peace,

Dale

As I mentioned, the mom was suicidal the first trimester, but then the effects of the CO poisoning wore off and she was fine. Interestingly, this is a single mom who raised one child (a Phosphorus boy) by herself. She and her current partner were discussing marriage, but I think she was fearful of commiting to it because she was married to her previous partner, who fathered the boy then split. Sounds like the mom's fear of being deserted by her current partner (who is as steady as they come) may have affected the baby in utero. I hadn't thought of that at first, but it makes sense. Also makes it look more and more like Pulsatilla.
As for the way the mom reacts: it's with tender, loving concern. She's a great mom with both kids, making it difficult to tease out what is elicited by the baby and what is innate motherly response.
Peace,
Dale

Thanks for these suggestions, Azadeh and Gail. I will pass on the mirror trick to the mom! And will let you know how the baby's case comes out.
On a totally unrelated topic, many moms in my area (including my daughter-in-law) use "attachment parenting," which involves training the parents to be sensitive to a baby's cues as to when it needs to pee or poop. The cues are different for each baby -- and for each function. Lest this impact diaper sales adversely, I have come upon a new use for Huggies for those of you suffering from this winter's horrible ice dams, like us. Baby diapers, with their absorbent gels, are great for keeping melted ice and rainwater from waterfalling down your walls. Think I'll go stuff the eaves with some more; rain is expected!
Peace,
Dale
hi Dale
my son 15- months- now , was the same, until the age we turned the car seat so he could see me while driving. when he was 6 months (and still in rear position ) I put a mirror so he could see me ( at least back of my head to make sure mommy is around.)
well it is a suggestion that might help.

remedy wise: puls fits, however carbon-O can be a good fit too( as Gail suggested too), considering mom's state during pregnancy. deep sleep and cold hands.

interesting case, pls share the result.
best
A

--- On Tue, 3/8/11, Dale Moss wrote:

Morrison's book Carbon has a section on CO, but given that there's been no proving, it's pretty small. When the mom first came to see me, no one had any idea what her problem might be. It was thought at first she had Lyme disease. I was the only one who suggested a poisoning, but her sxs didn't look like the typical picture for CO; they were subtler because not acute but of chronic, low-dose exposure.
Peace,
Dale
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hi Dale
my son 15- months- now , was the same, until the age we turned the car seat so he could see me while driving. when he was 6 months (and still in rear position ) I put a mirror so he could see me ( at least back of my head to make sure mommy is around.)
well it is a suggestion that might help.

remedy wise: puls fits, however carbon-O can be a good fit too( as Gail suggested too), considering mom's state during pregnancy. deep sleep and cold hands.

interesting case, pls share the result.
best
A

--- On Tue, 3/8/11, Dale Moss wrote:

Farrington's lesser
Carbonous Oxide (CO) is one of the few substances which can, like Oxygen, combine with, or unite itself to the red corpuscle. Hence its poisonous action depends principally upon the displacement of Oxygen, with consequent suffocation. At first there is a notable increase in the blood pressure. There is flushed face, deep - red as from venous hyperaemia. A characteristic headache sets in, throbbing in the temporal arteries; lightness and constriction, worse about the temples; palpitation of heart. The patient soon feels stupid, confused or acts like one drunk. Respiration becomes stertorous and slow; the breath becomes cool, and complete unconsciousness, or trismus with convulsions, follows. The surface of the body, at first red, soon turns livid, cyanotic, and the temperature falls perceptibly. Death may close the scene, or partial recovery occur, with well - defined Hemiplegia. Other cases end in perfect recovery.
This picture forcibly reminds one of the effects of Opium, and doubtless Carbonous Oxide will compare with the latter remedy in practice. The suddenness of its symptoms, the cerebral hyperaemia, and subsequent Hemiplegia, suggest its trial in Apoplexy and also in embolism. As a remedy serviceable in asphyxia arising from pulmonary affections, it would seem to stand between Carbo Veg. and Opium having the hyperaemia of the latter with the coldness of the former. Cases of poisoning with the gas have developed Pleurisy, Bronchitis, Emphysema, with bloody sputum, weakened vesicular murmur, and Pneumonia. Its subjective symptoms are: "Anxiety in the chest or feeling of a heavy load on the chest, etc." There are also recorded, rattling of mucus in the air - passages, bloody mucus raised from the bronchi, heat in chest, and abdomen, extremities cold.
I was wondering about Opium as element of fear and powerlessness and sensitivity to noise. Jean
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hi Dale
my son 15- months- now , was the same, until the age we turned the car seat so he could see me while driving. when he was 6 months (and still in rear position ) I put a mirror so he could see me ( at least back of my head to make sure mommy is around.)
well it is a suggestion that might help.

remedy wise: puls fits, however carbon-O can be a good fit too( as Gail suggested too), considering mom's state during pregnancy. deep sleep and cold hands.

interesting case, pls share the result.
best
A

--- On Tue, 3/8/11, Dale Moss > wrote:

** Virtually every child I've ever seen with these symptoms has turned out to be hypersensitive to the car exhaust. I wouldn't hesitate to treat from this perspective.

Regards,
Catherine