Concerns about potency
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Re: Concerns about potency
Hi Susan,
The questions of potency and repetition can be pretty straightforward for *most* cases (the "range of normal" is pretty broad), but some cases do fall outside it, and need different approaches. From what I recall you telling us over the years, your case is very much not an "average" or even "almost average" sort of situation, and I can well believe that your dosage management needs to be different.
Two of the situations that sometimes call for much more "aggressive" dosing--which might include frequent repetition and/or frequent repetition of high potencies--include an extremely weak vital force (which does not seem to be your situation) and/or a very deeply entrenched miasmatic / physiological disorder. It seems that that may be your situation. There are other possibilities too, but I think those are the main ones.
Since apparently your health has become more stable over the years, it seems that approach has been serving you *but* could be disastrous if used on an inappropriate situation, or if mishandled. When using frequent repetition of high potencies, one thing that becomes especially crucial (tho very important in *every* case anyway) is that the homeopath is making sure that *all* levels are responding favorably to the treatment (e.g. mental, emotional, and various "levels" of physical), not merely the "target symptom(s)."
I've always found it interesting to hear your experiences with it--it does sound like you've had a difficult situation, and been fortunate to eventually find effective help in managing it! And the persistence needed for it.
Best wishes,
Shannon
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The questions of potency and repetition can be pretty straightforward for *most* cases (the "range of normal" is pretty broad), but some cases do fall outside it, and need different approaches. From what I recall you telling us over the years, your case is very much not an "average" or even "almost average" sort of situation, and I can well believe that your dosage management needs to be different.
Two of the situations that sometimes call for much more "aggressive" dosing--which might include frequent repetition and/or frequent repetition of high potencies--include an extremely weak vital force (which does not seem to be your situation) and/or a very deeply entrenched miasmatic / physiological disorder. It seems that that may be your situation. There are other possibilities too, but I think those are the main ones.
Since apparently your health has become more stable over the years, it seems that approach has been serving you *but* could be disastrous if used on an inappropriate situation, or if mishandled. When using frequent repetition of high potencies, one thing that becomes especially crucial (tho very important in *every* case anyway) is that the homeopath is making sure that *all* levels are responding favorably to the treatment (e.g. mental, emotional, and various "levels" of physical), not merely the "target symptom(s)."
I've always found it interesting to hear your experiences with it--it does sound like you've had a difficult situation, and been fortunate to eventually find effective help in managing it! And the persistence needed for it.
Best wishes,
Shannon
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Re: Concerns about potency
Hi Shannon,
could you please explain:
"Two of the situations that sometimes call for much more "aggressive" dosing--which might include frequent repetition and/or frequent repetition of high potencies--include an extremely weak vital force"
I would have thought the opposite to be true.
regards,
Paul
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could you please explain:
"Two of the situations that sometimes call for much more "aggressive" dosing--which might include frequent repetition and/or frequent repetition of high potencies--include an extremely weak vital force"
I would have thought the opposite to be true.
regards,
Paul
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Re: Concerns about potency
As I was taught it, that can apply to a *very* weak VF, when "the fabric is nearly worn out" and the patient doesn't have enough vital energy to sustain the effect of the remedy. I have zero experience with that kind of experience, so maybe someone who does, could comment... But that is what I was taught, by a very well-grounded, well-experienced classical prescriber / teacher. I'd welcome others' remarks, tho.
OTOH someone with a vital force strong enough to "listen" and take on the message of the remedy, but needing gentle and thoughtful treatment, would need low potencies and/or very infrequent repetition...
Shannon
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OTOH someone with a vital force strong enough to "listen" and take on the message of the remedy, but needing gentle and thoughtful treatment, would need low potencies and/or very infrequent repetition...
Shannon
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Re: Concerns about potency
Remarks.....nobody answered that question I put earlier........1M, 10M, 50M.........how do you really know those are 1000CH, 10,000CH, 50,000CH??????
The 1M that aggravated SUsan might as well have been any potency and we have no idea what it was......same for the 200C, unless it is specifically mentioned that it was done by hand succussion or by the Korsakov method from 3C on, it could in reality be any potency...........
Joe.
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The 1M that aggravated SUsan might as well have been any potency and we have no idea what it was......same for the 200C, unless it is specifically mentioned that it was done by hand succussion or by the Korsakov method from 3C on, it could in reality be any potency...........
Joe.
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Re: Concerns about potency
Granted.
Without standards, we don't. Knowing that at least certain manufacturers met standards of conformity in this respect would at least make research more straightforward.
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John
Remarks.....nobody answered that question I put earlier........1M, 10M, 50M.........how do you really know those are 1000CH, 10,000CH, 50,000CH??????
The 1M that aggravated SUsan might as well have been any potency and we have no idea what it was......same for the 200C, unless it is specifically mentioned that it was done by hand succussion or by the Korsakov method from 3C on, it could in reality be any potency...........
Joe.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
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Cheers --
John
Remarks.....nobody answered that question I put earlier........1M, 10M, 50M.........how do you really know those are 1000CH, 10,000CH, 50,000CH??????
The 1M that aggravated SUsan might as well have been any potency and we have no idea what it was......same for the 200C, unless it is specifically mentioned that it was done by hand succussion or by the Korsakov method from 3C on, it could in reality be any potency...........
Joe.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
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"Gofman provides strong evidence that medical technology—specifically x-rays, CT scans, and mammography and fluoroscopy devices—are a contributing factor to 75% of new cancers. In… “Radiation from Medical Procedures in the Pathogenesis of Cancer and Ischemic Heart Disease: Dose-Response Studies with Physicians per 100,000 Population”, Gofman shows that as the number of physicians increases in a geographical area along with an increase in the number of x-ray diagnostic tests performed, the rate of cancer and ischemic heart disease also increases."
-- Gary Null, PhD; Carolyn Dean MD, ND; Martin Feldman, MD; Debora Rasio, MD; and Dorothy Smith, PhD, "Death by Medicine",
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Re: Concerns about potency
Thanks!!!!!
Hence the use of the F series, where you really know what you are taking..............please, at least read the free papers if you do not want to get the book!!!!
Joe.
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Hence the use of the F series, where you really know what you are taking..............please, at least read the free papers if you do not want to get the book!!!!
Joe.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
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Re: Concerns about potency
Ah! Okay. Thanks. You've doubtless given references to the free papers earlier; I'll take a look. Thanks, Joe.
John
Thanks!!!!!
Hence the use of the F series, where you really know what you are taking..............please, at least read the free papers if you do not want to get the book!!!!
Joe.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"
Visit my new website www.naturamedica.webs.com
John
Thanks!!!!!
Hence the use of the F series, where you really know what you are taking..............please, at least read the free papers if you do not want to get the book!!!!
Joe.
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"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"
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Re: Concerns about potency
Best to go to www.lulu.com , type my name without spelling mistake in the search box, that will bring you to my "shop" where you can download the 2 PDF booklets for free, they will have all the pictures and graphs which for some reason I could not put on my website.
Joe.
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"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"
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Joe.
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Re: Concerns about potency
Thank you, Joe!
John
Best to go to www.lulu.com , type my name without spelling mistake in the search box, that will bring you to my "shop" where you can download the 2 PDF booklets for free, they will have all the pictures and graphs which for some reason I could not put on my website.
Joe.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"
Visit my new website www.naturamedica.webs.com
John
Best to go to www.lulu.com , type my name without spelling mistake in the search box, that will bring you to my "shop" where you can download the 2 PDF booklets for free, they will have all the pictures and graphs which for some reason I could not put on my website.
Joe.
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"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"
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Re: Concerns about potency
Surely that's why the standardization of method matters? And why some pharmacies' products are found to have slightly different action from others, and slightly different action depending on number of succussions and other "details"... But I think saying it could "in reality be any potency" is a bit of an overstatement? Because we do have some degree of standardization (e.g. HPUS), even tho there is also some variation between pharmacies.
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Shannon
Remarks.....nobody answered that question I put earlier........1M, 10M, 50M.........how do you really know those are 1000CH, 10,000CH, 50,000CH??????
The 1M that aggravated SUsan might as well have been any potency and we have no idea what it was......same for the 200C, unless it is specifically mentioned that it was done by hand succussion or by the Korsakov method from 3C on, it could in reality be any potency...........
Joe.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"
Visit my new website www.naturamedica.webs.com
?
Shannon
Remarks.....nobody answered that question I put earlier........1M, 10M, 50M.........how do you really know those are 1000CH, 10,000CH, 50,000CH??????
The 1M that aggravated SUsan might as well have been any potency and we have no idea what it was......same for the 200C, unless it is specifically mentioned that it was done by hand succussion or by the Korsakov method from 3C on, it could in reality be any potency...........
Joe.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"
Visit my new website www.naturamedica.webs.com