Reading Aphorism one's foot note, time and again helps me always
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From: Andrew Vincent
To: "
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Sent: Tue, November 2, 2010 7:49:43 PM
Subject: RE: [Minutus] Re: Dark Energy - Varun's Theory
Hi Varun,
Thank you for your further notes....
I have read this a few times and now have a clearer idea of what you are driving at, but to be honest I’m not sure that this is really anything very new ... rather a ‘rebranding’ or a different ‘flavour’ of some already established theories?
For example, the last paragraphs in which you describe the (dark energy) forces of the mind...which are responsible for creating symptoms ... which are corrected by homeopathic medicines ... didn’t Hahnemann refer to this as the Vital Force?
Regarding the dark energy stored in homeopathic medicines ... again I think it is a well known ‘theory’ that Homeopathy is an energy based medicine ... and that the succussion and dilution process somehow transfers the energy/signature/essence of the raw substance into the solution (in non material doses). This (I guess) can be called dark energy if you like, but it doesn’t change current understanding or provide anything new, it’s just giving this stored energy / essence a new name.
I appreciate that it is hard to give scientific evidence to backup or even explain concepts such as ‘thoughts as energy’, but in the absence of evidence or testing it is probably inaccurate to describe some of what you are saying as scientific proof.
I think what we all have to be mindful of is that Homeopathy is based on the pioneering work of Hahnemann. He systematically tested, retested and recorded provings, symptoms, and clinical results in the pursuit of the ideal minimum dose. So any move away from the established methods is going to be hard for people to take on board without some overwhelming reasons why they should.
Best wishes,
Andy
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Sent: 02 November 2010 09:09
To:
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Subject: RE: [Minutus] Re: Dark Energy - Varun's Theory
Dear Varun
Once again you have written long, but NOT answered Andrew's question.
You have not presented any evidence to support your statements.
Best wishes
Soroush
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minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
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Sent: 02 November 2010 00:24
To:
minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Re: Dark Energy - Varun's Theory
Andew, I must let you know that I’ve not taken any of your words to be negative.
I know things might be hard to believe in the first go, but first of all just try to be clear in the concept that everything in the Universe evolved from what we call Dark Energy, including mass as well as other forms of energy too. More so just try to enter into the gravity of the situation that this energy is beyond Einstein’s mass energy equation too, which leaves the things to be tricky and more in the thought process than in observations as we cannot see this Dark Energy. But it’s not so difficult to understand too as if we try to think of a simple form of any other energy too then even that is not visible but only its actions are visible. Take the example of a cricket ball kept over the table. Now the ball has potential energy with respect to ground as per height of table from the ground. But just think that can we see that potential energy in that ball. Actually no. We can only see the ball and not the potential energy in it. To feel or to understand that the ball has potential energy in it we would have to drop it from the table and then we can feel the ‘force’ of ball either in our hand if we place it below ball or in any other way if it can break a piece of glass below table or run a small turbine placed in path to produce some electricity. Now here we can see the things done by energy by some mechanism wherein the energy had to deliver in terms of ‘force’, whether force on hand, or force on piece of glass, or on turbine blades, but not that we could see the energy in the ball. Energy is not visible to eyes here too.
Now in the realms of Dark Energy the thing gets somewhat tougher but not actually so tough that our mind cannot grasp it. Let me explain one thing in relation to this that will make it easy to understand.
Just try to give a scientific explanation to the fact that what actually is a “Thought”, “Imagination”, “Dream”.........
Think it for a while before you see what I would have written below.
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Are Thoughts, Imaginations or Dreams a potential energy, kinetic energy, electrostatic energy, or is it now Dark energy as you might think I’ll say. Actually it’s none of them and neither Dark Energy. It’s actually a way to feel that Dark Energy in action, as we could feel the ball in our hand or on glass below table. So just think again, it’s actually a “Force manifested by that Dark Energy”. Scientists have not had any plausible explanation to the nature of thoughts, imaginations or dreams on scientific basis and this is a well known fact. Dark Energy like any other simpler forms of energy is not visible but its actions are just like actions of any other form of energy. I’ve now provided a scientific statement to the nature of Thoughts, Imaginations and Dreams and I hope scientific as well as Homeopathic community will give due importance and observation to this.
Now just give some insight into the fact that how great an importance we have been giving to thoughts, imaginations and dreams in homeopathy right from the beginning. “Symptoms are Mind”, and we relish them in Homeopathy. Again this all is giving all plausible hints to the concept of Dark Energy and now even as I’ve stated about the forces manifested by them. These forces are coming from the mind, which again is made of Dark Energy. How simple actually to understand if we give some insight into it!
The forces of the mind varies from person to person and that’s how varies our selection of remedies for them in Homeopathy. The Dark Energies from which their minds are made varies right from the birth or rather right from when they were first formed in the womb and then as per their development and challenges they face the Dark Energies show their action and then when required we correct them via Dark Energies in Homeopathic medicines.
Again come on to the fact that everything is made of Dark Energy. When God could provide a way which would indeed be scientific by every respect for the formation of Universe from Dark Energy then why can’t they be extracted backwards from matter and energies available to us? Fortunately extraction in alcohol is possible as only that’s why Homeopathic medicines work.
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Dear Andy
I bought Varun’s book because of his promise of being able to explain how homeopathy worked. I feel so cheated! In his book I saw nothing of real value! His statements in his book are very much like his statements below about Dark matter and homeopathy.
He has not answered my question on the dynamic nature of disease and remedies.
I think in the end he will resort to ‘Believe me, I am Varun – and you know I have theories.”
I feel he should offer to refund my money for his book.
Regards
Soroush
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From:
minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
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Sent: 01 November 2010 17:35
To:
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Subject: RE: [Minutus] Re: Dark Energy - Varun's Theory
Hi Varun,
I have been watching this conversation unfold over the last week and feel it is time to come back with a fair response to your email to me.
As you may remember I asked you a couple of questions, but in your response you did not answer these ...
My questions were in relation to your statements:
1. “Answers to Homeopathy lie here only” when describing ‘Dark Energy’.
a. Please can you give some evidence to support that Dark Energy is solely responsible for the action of Homeopathy? How can this be tested or observed? How can I independently ratify this statement?
2. ..”Homeopathy medicines (alcohol) actually extracts this Dark Energy from the substance when prepared..”
a. Please can you give some evidence of this? How have you observed this Dark Energy being extracted from the substance? How did you test this?
3. You also state in your response that
“Take it a thing like Newton said gravity is there but he had no scientific evidence to prove that when he said that, but gravity explained falling of apple so it had to exist and later it was even proved mathematically.”
The key thing with Newton’s Laws of motion is that he observed something (apple falling towards the Earth) and then set out to explain it. The explanation he came up with is both repeatable and can be demonstrated with simple mathematics – which means it can be used to predict the outcome of other similar experiments. The problem I have with your explanations so far is that you have not observed anything, or tested or measured anything that I know of, and you have not offered any explanation that is based on anything tangible.
Please believe me when I say I am not trying to be negative towards you, in fact I am always keen to read new explanations for how Homeopathy works – but explanations have to be based on something that can be tested / repeated / observed otherwise they are not explanations, they are just speculation.
With best wishes,
Andy
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Sent: 30 October 2010 22:25
To:
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Subject: Re: [Minutus] Re: Dark Energy - Varun's Theory
I knew someone will come out in all negative way for it and it had to be Soroush here, so no issues. And I knew this would be his next post for sure. I'm alive after this means I needed them and anyone can make out that if i would have been wrong in them I would have died already a few years back and any Homeopath can make this. Just try to imagine what would have been my state and how much I would have fought death time and again that I had to resort to this and also try to imagine what all I would have discovered in the path. A Death Like and Shocking scenario of medicines to recover from equally Death Like Situations.
By the way I must also tell that the statements by Soroush are written in a way to mislead and provide a very different picture too than the real things. An attempt to curb the Truth as usual.
Not everyone will need all this but at the most a mix of two, three, four at may be at the most five medicines as I really don't think anyone can go through all this.
Waiting for positive feedback too from someone soon and I know it will come very soon.........
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The rubrics that represent one who says they are well when not yield a reasonable number of remedies and Apis and Arnica are two of the best known of these.
Sometimes this feeling of being well when not can be due to delirium, semi comatose state, delusion, mental confusion or emotional disturbance - or even a mixture of any of these - but when you put together a drug overdose state, such as this many rx might cause, at least a very confused vital force and at worst an incurable state and then the feeling that they are well when clearly not you get:-
drug over dose
declares they are well
then the remedy would be Opium.
That's my dark energy theory anyway

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Joy
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It has to be Bridge! I would recommend MM potency.
Soroush
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From:
minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
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Sent: 29 October 2010 19:05
To:
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Subject: Re: [Minutus] Re: Dark Energy - Varun's Theory
This is very funny, like our own in house soap opera, and when I get back to my books I will open them and try that technique

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However it is clear to see what the simillimum is, a rx NOT in this list - think about it for a bit
drug overdose
declares he is well
and the rx is.........
Joy
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