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Re: Dark Energy - Varun's Theory

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 1:00 pm
by Theresa Partington
Hello Soroush

We are often being asked to produce 'evidence' for homeopathy and many of us end up saying 'look at the results'. We are not sympathetic to people who say ' it can't be true (according to my understanding of the world) and therefore it isn't.'

I have seen weirder explanations for how homeopathy works than this and I was under the impression that much of physics consists of best theories that fit known phenomona, anyway, and is short on deductive (?) type evidence. The expression Dark Energy seems melodramatic but it is just a name for the energy he is trying describe and which he is evidencing by its effects. That is if the emails reflect the book on this subject, which I wouldn't know.
Theresa
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Re: Dark Energy - Varun's Theory

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 2:57 pm
by Soroush Ebrahimi
Dear Theresa
We are all seekers of the truth and we will search and search for it. Homeopathy for those who have seen it in action does not require further proof. What we would like to have is something to convince the sceptics - although this may be a futile effort but if we can convert one sceptic as was the case with Kent, then it will be worthwhile.
Varun has built a platform that he has the explanation for homeopathy and that how it should be used. The basis of this is his self-analysis of his own disease and how he self treated himself.
The whole thing in my opinion is delusional.
Additionally Varun never answers the questions put to him directly. He normally goes off at a tangent and verbosely - at the end of his posts I think to myself what have I learnt about homeopathy? Perhaps not to do as Varun says/does!!
Varun was asked some specific questions by Andy in response to some of the statements made by Varun:

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My questions were in relation to your statements:

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Have you seen satisfactory answers to these?
Has he answered my question about what does he understand by the dynamic nature of disease and also remedies?
Don't hold your breath!
Best wishes

Soroush
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Hello Soroush

We are often being asked to produce 'evidence' for homeopathy and many of us end up saying 'look at the results'. We are not sympathetic to people who say ' it can't be true (according to my understanding of the world) and therefore it isn't.'

I have seen weirder explanations for how homeopathy works than this and I was under the impression that much of physics consists of best theories that fit known phenomona, anyway, and is short on deductive (?) type evidence. The expression Dark Energy seems melodramatic but it is just a name for the energy he is trying describe and which he is evidencing by its effects. That is if the emails reflect the book on this subject, which I wouldn't know.

Theresa

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Re: Dark Energy - Varun's Theory

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:19 pm
by Andrew Vincent
Hi Varun,

Thank you for your further notes....

I have read this a few times and now have a clearer idea of what you are driving at, but to be honest I’m not sure that this is really anything very new ... rather a ‘rebranding’ or a different ‘flavour’ of some already established theories?
For example, the last paragraphs in which you describe the (dark energy) forces of the mind...which are responsible for creating symptoms ... which are corrected by homeopathic medicines ... didn’t Hahnemann refer to this as the Vital Force?
Regarding the dark energy stored in homeopathic medicines ... again I think it is a well known ‘theory’ that Homeopathy is an energy based medicine ... and that the succussion and dilution process somehow transfers the energy/signature/essence of the raw substance into the solution (in non material doses). This (I guess) can be called dark energy if you like, but it doesn’t change current understanding or provide anything new, it’s just giving this stored energy / essence a new name.
I appreciate that it is hard to give scientific evidence to backup or even explain concepts such as ‘thoughts as energy’, but in the absence of evidence or testing it is probably inaccurate to describe some of what you are saying as scientific proof.
I think what we all have to be mindful of is that Homeopathy is based on the pioneering work of Hahnemann. He systematically tested, retested and recorded provings, symptoms, and clinical results in the pursuit of the ideal minimum dose. So any move away from the established methods is going to be hard for people to take on board without some overwhelming reasons why they should.
Best wishes,

Andy
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Sent: 02 November 2010 09:09
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Subject: RE: [Minutus] Re: Dark Energy - Varun's Theory
Dear Varun
Once again you have written long, but NOT answered Andrew's question.

You have not presented any evidence to support your statements.
Best wishes

Soroush
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Sent: 02 November 2010 00:24
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Subject: Re: [Minutus] Re: Dark Energy - Varun's Theory
Andew, I must let you know that I’ve not taken any of your words to be negative.
I know things might be hard to believe in the first go, but first of all just try to be clear in the concept that everything in the Universe evolved from what we call Dark Energy, including mass as well as other forms of energy too. More so just try to enter into the gravity of the situation that this energy is beyond Einstein’s mass energy equation too, which leaves the things to be tricky and more in the thought process than in observations as we cannot see this Dark Energy. But it’s not so difficult to understand too as if we try to think of a simple form of any other energy too then even that is not visible but only its actions are visible. Take the example of a cricket ball kept over the table. Now the ball has potential energy with respect to ground as per height of table from the ground. But just think that can we see that potential energy in that ball. Actually no. We can only see the ball and not the potential energy in it. To feel or to understand that the ball has potential energy in it we would have to drop it from the table and then we can feel the ‘force’ of ball either in our hand if we place it below ball or in any other way if it can break a piece of glass below table or run a small turbine placed in path to produce some electricity. Now here we can see the things done by energy by some mechanism wherein the energy had to deliver in terms of ‘force’, whether force on hand, or force on piece of glass, or on turbine blades, but not that we could see the energy in the ball. Energy is not visible to eyes here too.
Now in the realms of Dark Energy the thing gets somewhat tougher but not actually so tough that our mind cannot grasp it. Let me explain one thing in relation to this that will make it easy to understand.
Just try to give a scientific explanation to the fact that what actually is a “Thought”, “Imagination”, “Dream”.........
Think it for a while before you see what I would have written below.

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Are Thoughts, Imaginations or Dreams a potential energy, kinetic energy, electrostatic energy, or is it now Dark energy as you might think I’ll say. Actually it’s none of them and neither Dark Energy. It’s actually a way to feel that Dark Energy in action, as we could feel the ball in our hand or on glass below table. So just think again, it’s actually a “Force manifested by that Dark Energy”. Scientists have not had any plausible explanation to the nature of thoughts, imaginations or dreams on scientific basis and this is a well known fact. Dark Energy like any other simpler forms of energy is not visible but its actions are just like actions of any other form of energy. I’ve now provided a scientific statement to the nature of Thoughts, Imaginations and Dreams and I hope scientific as well as Homeopathic community will give due importance and observation to this.
Now just give some insight into the fact that how great an importance we have been giving to thoughts, imaginations and dreams in homeopathy right from the beginning. “Symptoms are Mind”, and we relish them in Homeopathy. Again this all is giving all plausible hints to the concept of Dark Energy and now even as I’ve stated about the forces manifested by them. These forces are coming from the mind, which again is made of Dark Energy. How simple actually to understand if we give some insight into it!
The forces of the mind varies from person to person and that’s how varies our selection of remedies for them in Homeopathy. The Dark Energies from which their minds are made varies right from the birth or rather right from when they were first formed in the womb and then as per their development and challenges they face the Dark Energies show their action and then when required we correct them via Dark Energies in Homeopathic medicines.
Again come on to the fact that everything is made of Dark Energy. When God could provide a way which would indeed be scientific by every respect for the formation of Universe from Dark Energy then why can’t they be extracted backwards from matter and energies available to us? Fortunately extraction in alcohol is possible as only that’s why Homeopathic medicines work.
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Dear Andy
I bought Varun’s book because of his promise of being able to explain how homeopathy worked. I feel so cheated! In his book I saw nothing of real value! His statements in his book are very much like his statements below about Dark matter and homeopathy.
He has not answered my question on the dynamic nature of disease and remedies.
I think in the end he will resort to ‘Believe me, I am Varun – and you know I have theories.”
I feel he should offer to refund my money for his book.
Regards

Soroush
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Sent: 01 November 2010 17:35
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Minutus] Re: Dark Energy - Varun's Theory
Hi Varun,

I have been watching this conversation unfold over the last week and feel it is time to come back with a fair response to your email to me.
As you may remember I asked you a couple of questions, but in your response you did not answer these ...

My questions were in relation to your statements:
1. “Answers to Homeopathy lie here only” when describing ‘Dark Energy’.

a. Please can you give some evidence to support that Dark Energy is solely responsible for the action of Homeopathy? How can this be tested or observed? How can I independently ratify this statement?

2. ..”Homeopathy medicines (alcohol) actually extracts this Dark Energy from the substance when prepared..”

a. Please can you give some evidence of this? How have you observed this Dark Energy being extracted from the substance? How did you test this?

3. You also state in your response that

“Take it a thing like Newton said gravity is there but he had no scientific evidence to prove that when he said that, but gravity explained falling of apple so it had to exist and later it was even proved mathematically.”

The key thing with Newton’s Laws of motion is that he observed something (apple falling towards the Earth) and then set out to explain it. The explanation he came up with is both repeatable and can be demonstrated with simple mathematics – which means it can be used to predict the outcome of other similar experiments. The problem I have with your explanations so far is that you have not observed anything, or tested or measured anything that I know of, and you have not offered any explanation that is based on anything tangible.
Please believe me when I say I am not trying to be negative towards you, in fact I am always keen to read new explanations for how Homeopathy works – but explanations have to be based on something that can be tested / repeated / observed otherwise they are not explanations, they are just speculation.
With best wishes,

Andy
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Sent: 30 October 2010 22:25
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Subject: Re: [Minutus] Re: Dark Energy - Varun's Theory
I knew someone will come out in all negative way for it and it had to be Soroush here, so no issues. And I knew this would be his next post for sure. I'm alive after this means I needed them and anyone can make out that if i would have been wrong in them I would have died already a few years back and any Homeopath can make this. Just try to imagine what would have been my state and how much I would have fought death time and again that I had to resort to this and also try to imagine what all I would have discovered in the path. A Death Like and Shocking scenario of medicines to recover from equally Death Like Situations.
By the way I must also tell that the statements by Soroush are written in a way to mislead and provide a very different picture too than the real things. An attempt to curb the Truth as usual.
Not everyone will need all this but at the most a mix of two, three, four at may be at the most five medicines as I really don't think anyone can go through all this.
Waiting for positive feedback too from someone soon and I know it will come very soon.........
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The rubrics that represent one who says they are well when not yield a reasonable number of remedies and Apis and Arnica are two of the best known of these.
Sometimes this feeling of being well when not can be due to delirium, semi comatose state, delusion, mental confusion or emotional disturbance - or even a mixture of any of these - but when you put together a drug overdose state, such as this many rx might cause, at least a very confused vital force and at worst an incurable state and then the feeling that they are well when clearly not you get:-
drug over dose
declares they are well
then the remedy would be Opium.
That's my dark energy theory anyway :-))
Joy
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It has to be Bridge! I would recommend MM potency.
Soroush
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This is very funny, like our own in house soap opera, and when I get back to my books I will open them and try that technique :-))
However it is clear to see what the simillimum is, a rx NOT in this list - think about it for a bit
drug overdose

declares he is well
and the rx is.........
Joy
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Re: Dark Energy - Varun's Theory

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:07 pm
by Theresa Partington
Dear Soroush

Probably not a good idea to lean too heavily on one's own case ..
However, Andy's latest post makes my point in a way. Vital force and potentisation are all assummptions we make based on one person's initial observations and we don't feel the need to challenge them because we can't see them or process them through a conventional experiments to the satisfaction of the scientific community. This particular aspect of your criticism seemed a bit harsh.
As for verbosity, on Minutus? Surely not!
Theresa
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Re: Dark Energy - Varun's Theory

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:29 pm
by Joy Lucas
Care to say what those 'assumptions' are?

And for all the countless cures with Hahnemannian homeopathy what is there to challenge?

Joy

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Re: Dark Energy - Varun's Theory

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 10:50 pm
by Theresa Partington
Hello Joy
The assumptions I referred to are that there is such things as vital force and potentisation - I not only cared to say it but I did.

And I also said in that and my previous email that we don't feel the need to challenge them because we see the results and therefore can deduce/assume their existence from that, or at least give it credit as a theory.

My point being that the accusation that Varun's Dark Energy is not tangible, visible or identifiable through conventional scientific method should not in itself be a huge barrier to our trying to understand what he is saying.

I hope that is clearer.
Theresa

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Re: Dark Energy - Varun's Theory

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 11:33 pm
by Soroush Ebrahimi
Dear Theresa – Greetings!
Potentisation: As part of dilution and succussion, the effect is measurably possible to see with especially sensitive patients that the number of succussions when plussing or the degree of dilution with LMs. So it is something that can be experienced with patient reaction.
Vital force: As stated in the Organon this is the manager of the body in its totality. This is what we lose when we die!

Put one hand in hot water and the other in cold and the body will cool the heated hand and heat the cooled hand.
Both things are things that can be experienced and even modern lab technique (Prof Rostum Roy’s work) can show the difference between remedies and remedies at different potencies.
Best wishes

Soroush
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Sent: 02 November 2010 21:50
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Minutus] Re: Dark Energy - Varun's Theory
Hello Joy
The assumptions I referred to are that there is such things as vital force and potentisation - I not only cared to say it but I did.

And I also said in that and my previous email that we don't feel the need to challenge them because we see the results and therefore can deduce/assume their existence from that, or at least give it credit as a theory.

My point being that the accusation that Varun's Dark Energy is not tangible, visible or identifiable through conventional scientific method should not in itself be a huge barrier to our trying to understand what he is saying.

I hope that is clearer.
Theresa
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Re: Dark Energy - Varun's Theory

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 12:08 am
by John Harvey
Hi, all --
It's easy to overlook, in all this back and forth, what is perhaps the most essential point of both Soroush's questions and Andrew's to Varun. That point is not the question whether it's reasonable that dark energy provide some explanation. It is the question whether this more complex explanation suggests any predictions that can be tested in practice.
Varun's answers to all this, as best I can understand them, are to say "Yes, just use my polypharmacy methods, and you'll see that they work where homoeopathy [i.e. monopharmacy on the basis of symptom matching] fails".
The trouble with such a complex test of such a complex and unpredictable "method" as Varun's is that the degree of its success -- whether it is in practice superior to homoeopathy or is a total delusion or something in between -- can't be easily ascertained, and certainly can't be ascertained by the results of its trial by one person on himself, using his own (morbidly affected) judgement as its measure.
Scientific hypotheses have a requirement: that they be testable; that there be a way to demonstrate that they're wrong if they're wrong. The difference between the hypothesis that underlies the practice of homoeopathy and the hypothesis underlying Varunian Dark Medicine (V.D.M.) is that one is readily testable and the other appears not to be, though Varun has been invited several times now to mention relevant tests.
Forget about potency. It has no connection with the homoeopathic hypothesis, principle, or method. It is a mere adjunct in its practice, making it safer and more practicable by all. The hypothesis upon which the entirety of homoeopathy has proceeded -- the hypothesis that a medicine able to mimic the patient's illness is capable of stimulating the patient to cure -- is the hypothesis relevant to homoeopathy's scientific credibility. It is simple; it can be formulated such that anybody can test it; and it has the potential to be proven wrong.
In contrast, the hypothesis underlying V.D.M. has yet to be formulated in this discussion in a way that is comprehensible, let alone that suggests any way of testing it. It may be, in essence, a marvellous hypothesis; but, unless it is able to make predictions and thus is able to be disproven, it is not a hypothesis that by any stretch of the imagination places it within the realm of science.
Cheers --
John
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Re: Dark Energy - Varun's Theory

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 7:56 am
by srinivasan venkatesan
Reading Aphorism one's foot note, time and again helps me always

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From: Andrew Vincent
To: "minutus@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Tue, November 2, 2010 7:49:43 PM
Subject: RE: [Minutus] Re: Dark Energy - Varun's Theory
Hi Varun,

Thank you for your further notes....

I have read this a few times and now have a clearer idea of what you are driving at, but to be honest I’m not sure that this is really anything very new ... rather a ‘rebranding’ or a different ‘flavour’ of some already established theories?
For example, the last paragraphs in which you describe the (dark energy) forces of the mind...which are responsible for creating symptoms ... which are corrected by homeopathic medicines ... didn’t Hahnemann refer to this as the Vital Force?
Regarding the dark energy stored in homeopathic medicines ... again I think it is a well known ‘theory’ that Homeopathy is an energy based medicine ... and that the succussion and dilution process somehow transfers the energy/signature/essence of the raw substance into the solution (in non material doses). This (I guess) can be called dark energy if you like, but it doesn’t change current understanding or provide anything new, it’s just giving this stored energy / essence a new name.
I appreciate that it is hard to give scientific evidence to backup or even explain concepts such as ‘thoughts as energy’, but in the absence of evidence or testing it is probably inaccurate to describe some of what you are saying as scientific proof.
I think what we all have to be mindful of is that Homeopathy is based on the pioneering work of Hahnemann. He systematically tested, retested and recorded provings, symptoms, and clinical results in the pursuit of the ideal minimum dose. So any move away from the established methods is going to be hard for people to take on board without some overwhelming reasons why they should.
Best wishes,

Andy
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Sent: 02 November 2010 09:09
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Minutus] Re: Dark Energy - Varun's Theory
Dear Varun
Once again you have written long, but NOT answered Andrew's question.

You have not presented any evidence to support your statements.
Best wishes

Soroush
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Varun Gupta
Sent: 02 November 2010 00:24
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Re: Dark Energy - Varun's Theory
Andew, I must let you know that I’ve not taken any of your words to be negative.
I know things might be hard to believe in the first go, but first of all just try to be clear in the concept that everything in the Universe evolved from what we call Dark Energy, including mass as well as other forms of energy too. More so just try to enter into the gravity of the situation that this energy is beyond Einstein’s mass energy equation too, which leaves the things to be tricky and more in the thought process than in observations as we cannot see this Dark Energy. But it’s not so difficult to understand too as if we try to think of a simple form of any other energy too then even that is not visible but only its actions are visible. Take the example of a cricket ball kept over the table. Now the ball has potential energy with respect to ground as per height of table from the ground. But just think that can we see that potential energy in that ball. Actually no. We can only see the ball and not the potential energy in it. To feel or to understand that the ball has potential energy in it we would have to drop it from the table and then we can feel the ‘force’ of ball either in our hand if we place it below ball or in any other way if it can break a piece of glass below table or run a small turbine placed in path to produce some electricity. Now here we can see the things done by energy by some mechanism wherein the energy had to deliver in terms of ‘force’, whether force on hand, or force on piece of glass, or on turbine blades, but not that we could see the energy in the ball. Energy is not visible to eyes here too.
Now in the realms of Dark Energy the thing gets somewhat tougher but not actually so tough that our mind cannot grasp it. Let me explain one thing in relation to this that will make it easy to understand.
Just try to give a scientific explanation to the fact that what actually is a “Thought”, “Imagination”, “Dream”.........
Think it for a while before you see what I would have written below.

.

.

.

.

.

Are Thoughts, Imaginations or Dreams a potential energy, kinetic energy, electrostatic energy, or is it now Dark energy as you might think I’ll say. Actually it’s none of them and neither Dark Energy. It’s actually a way to feel that Dark Energy in action, as we could feel the ball in our hand or on glass below table. So just think again, it’s actually a “Force manifested by that Dark Energy”. Scientists have not had any plausible explanation to the nature of thoughts, imaginations or dreams on scientific basis and this is a well known fact. Dark Energy like any other simpler forms of energy is not visible but its actions are just like actions of any other form of energy. I’ve now provided a scientific statement to the nature of Thoughts, Imaginations and Dreams and I hope scientific as well as Homeopathic community will give due importance and observation to this.
Now just give some insight into the fact that how great an importance we have been giving to thoughts, imaginations and dreams in homeopathy right from the beginning. “Symptoms are Mind”, and we relish them in Homeopathy. Again this all is giving all plausible hints to the concept of Dark Energy and now even as I’ve stated about the forces manifested by them. These forces are coming from the mind, which again is made of Dark Energy. How simple actually to understand if we give some insight into it!
The forces of the mind varies from person to person and that’s how varies our selection of remedies for them in Homeopathy. The Dark Energies from which their minds are made varies right from the birth or rather right from when they were first formed in the womb and then as per their development and challenges they face the Dark Energies show their action and then when required we correct them via Dark Energies in Homeopathic medicines.
Again come on to the fact that everything is made of Dark Energy. When God could provide a way which would indeed be scientific by every respect for the formation of Universe from Dark Energy then why can’t they be extracted backwards from matter and energies available to us? Fortunately extraction in alcohol is possible as only that’s why Homeopathic medicines work.
Varun

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Dear Andy
I bought Varun’s book because of his promise of being able to explain how homeopathy worked. I feel so cheated! In his book I saw nothing of real value! His statements in his book are very much like his statements below about Dark matter and homeopathy.
He has not answered my question on the dynamic nature of disease and remedies.
I think in the end he will resort to ‘Believe me, I am Varun – and you know I have theories.”
I feel he should offer to refund my money for his book.
Regards

Soroush
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From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Andrew Vincent
Sent: 01 November 2010 17:35
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Minutus] Re: Dark Energy - Varun's Theory
Hi Varun,

I have been watching this conversation unfold over the last week and feel it is time to come back with a fair response to your email to me.
As you may remember I asked you a couple of questions, but in your response you did not answer these ...

My questions were in relation to your statements:
1. “Answers to Homeopathy lie here only” when describing ‘Dark Energy’.

a. Please can you give some evidence to support that Dark Energy is solely responsible for the action of Homeopathy? How can this be tested or observed? How can I independently ratify this statement?

2. ..”Homeopathy medicines (alcohol) actually extracts this Dark Energy from the substance when prepared..”

a. Please can you give some evidence of this? How have you observed this Dark Energy being extracted from the substance? How did you test this?

3. You also state in your response that

“Take it a thing like Newton said gravity is there but he had no scientific evidence to prove that when he said that, but gravity explained falling of apple so it had to exist and later it was even proved mathematically.”

The key thing with Newton’s Laws of motion is that he observed something (apple falling towards the Earth) and then set out to explain it. The explanation he came up with is both repeatable and can be demonstrated with simple mathematics – which means it can be used to predict the outcome of other similar experiments. The problem I have with your explanations so far is that you have not observed anything, or tested or measured anything that I know of, and you have not offered any explanation that is based on anything tangible.
Please believe me when I say I am not trying to be negative towards you, in fact I am always keen to read new explanations for how Homeopathy works – but explanations have to be based on something that can be tested / repeated / observed otherwise they are not explanations, they are just speculation.
With best wishes,

Andy
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Varun Gupta
Sent: 30 October 2010 22:25
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Subject: Re: [Minutus] Re: Dark Energy - Varun's Theory
I knew someone will come out in all negative way for it and it had to be Soroush here, so no issues. And I knew this would be his next post for sure. I'm alive after this means I needed them and anyone can make out that if i would have been wrong in them I would have died already a few years back and any Homeopath can make this. Just try to imagine what would have been my state and how much I would have fought death time and again that I had to resort to this and also try to imagine what all I would have discovered in the path. A Death Like and Shocking scenario of medicines to recover from equally Death Like Situations.
By the way I must also tell that the statements by Soroush are written in a way to mislead and provide a very different picture too than the real things. An attempt to curb the Truth as usual.
Not everyone will need all this but at the most a mix of two, three, four at may be at the most five medicines as I really don't think anyone can go through all this.
Waiting for positive feedback too from someone soon and I know it will come very soon.........
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The rubrics that represent one who says they are well when not yield a reasonable number of remedies and Apis and Arnica are two of the best known of these.
Sometimes this feeling of being well when not can be due to delirium, semi comatose state, delusion, mental confusion or emotional disturbance - or even a mixture of any of these - but when you put together a drug overdose state, such as this many rx might cause, at least a very confused vital force and at worst an incurable state and then the feeling that they are well when clearly not you get:-
drug over dose
declares they are well
then the remedy would be Opium.
That's my dark energy theory anyway :-))
Joy
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It has to be Bridge! I would recommend MM potency.
Soroush
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Subject: Re: [Minutus] Re: Dark Energy - Varun's Theory

This is very funny, like our own in house soap opera, and when I get back to my books I will open them and try that technique :-))
However it is clear to see what the simillimum is, a rx NOT in this list - think about it for a bit
drug overdose

declares he is well
and the rx is.........
Joy
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Re: Dark Energy - Varun's Theory

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 1:16 pm
by Varun Gupta
Andrew, it’s not rebranding of any established theories. First of all there are many hypothesis earlier about what is in Homeopathic medicines. Some say it energy, some magnetic field, some electrostatic potential and so on, but none has given any plausible explanation to Homeopathy by energy and force analysis. Even any talk of Homeopathic medicines being energy medicines has not provided explanation to their working and other concepts of Homeopathy by energy and force analysis.
So how do things change now by calling it Dark Energy? This all is possible now keeping into mind two things.

1. First, Homeopathic medicines contain Dark Energy in them and

2. Second, that even our mind is formed of Dark Energy.
These two things have to work in tandem to explain all and that’s where the difference exists in my theory and others.
More so one must be aware that it is well accepted fact by many scientists that everything is made of Dark Energy. And this thing does not leave the things to mere hypotheses but make them come into proper science. And I also told you earlier that even these things are said very openly in Indian scriptures, Vedas and Upanishads, thus providing more credence to them.
With the concept of Dark Energy you can explain the things with proper energy and force analysis and I’ve really done it. It will explain how in some circumstances we see the validity of concept of constitutional medicine and then how it fails in others. So in true essence nothing like the concept of constitutional medicine actually in existence. More so how this concept explains each and every concept of Homeopathy is just mind blowing. Not to forget the fact that it opens gates for many new things in Homeopathy, whether in regard to new concepts to mix medicines or anything else.
Hahnemann used a tem Vital Force but could not specify what it is. I’ve specified it to forces manifested by Dark Energy and I’ve not shied away to use his term in my work too.
About your thing on thoughts as energy then actually thoughts are forces manifested by Dark Energy and not Energy and I said the same in my earlier post too.
Thanksssssssss a lot Theresa for your support. I’ll like to quote your words here, “My point being that the accusation that Varun's Dark Energy is not tangible, visible or identifiable through conventional scientific method should not in itself be a huge barrier to our trying to understand what he is saying”.
Scientists are themselves looking for leads to find the nature and other insights into Dark Energy, and all this will actually provide many clues to them to explore in this field.
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