Minutus

Well it is still in the delicious Booja Booja raspberry raw chocolates I buy and are in my fridge tempting me now!! And in their Hunky Punky chocolate ice cream. Both are advertised as suitable for diabetics. You can also buy bottles of the syrup labelled Organic!!!
Rochelle
Registered Homeopath with The Society of Homeopath
EFT (Advanced) Practitioner
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According to the following, Agave americana has been proven in India:
http://homeoresearch.blogspot.com/2010/ ... icana.html
I recommend contacting Todd Rowe, who has done provings of many plants from the American Southwest. Sorry, I don't have an e-mail address for him; he might be on the National Center for Homeopathy website.
Peace,
Dale

The bad press on it that I have been reading is about the "agave nectar", which is advertised as being "natural" and nutritious, but according to some sources is actually highly processed and mostly fructose, similar to HFCS and *not* a healthy food. I don't recall the details, tho.

as for removing it from the market? the study claims they did based on their recommendations.
it didn't mention agencies like the fda.
that may well be the product used in the study i read (or its summary). this makesme
think of it being another well designed study to attack a supposedly natural product---and
one, in particular, that offers big competition to Corn syrup.
btw, have people seen the ad for corn sugar, just like cane sugar, "the body cannot
tell the difference!" i have seen it 2x on tv and others have reported seeing it as well.
funded by american tax dollars, of course.
tanya

I'm not quite sure where you get your information from about the UK Tanya!

They sell "pure agave syrup" in my local Sainsbury's - it's touted as the new, all-natural sweetener. Not banned at all. Like fructose, it is promoted precisely because it by-passes the usual metabolic pathways for sugar/glucose, so this is seen as a benefit for diabetics. Fructose is used in hundreds of foods because it is cheap. I'm sure agave will go the same way.

However Dr. Mercola warns that, like fructose, we should avoid it like the plague, as it is dangerous to health. This is what causes weight gain - I think he says both these products are directly metabolised as fat by the body.

Liz
agave have been banned in the US, UK and Canada in foods due to promoting low blood sugar in diabetes.
the study was stopped. the article that i read gave no specific information other than to note that it caused bad side
effects and the agencies in all 3 countries banned it from foods.

apparently it can cause low metabolic syndrome/hypoglycemia

tanya

I have posted some extraction of Agave americana in the Complete Repertory in facebook here:

Thanks Roger - many of the references are from Clarke, Boericke etc but we know these originate from other sources such as Hale and these are all allopathic provings and as thus remain a bit questionable but can you comment on whether the references/rubrics from Madaus are homeopathic proving based.

Many thanks, Joy

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Dear Joy,

You are right. nevertheless, when clinically confirmed in hom. use, this info is useful.
Madaus is a very good and old source of proven herbal material, so no they are also not homeopathic.

time for a real proving perhaps...

Be well

Roger

A recent post gave a link to an Indian proving on this plant, you will be able to retrieve it from the archives and add to CD, if you have time on your hands

Best wishes, Joy

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I would also say that even though some of the clinical allopathic data regarding Agave americana is interesting it cannot be used homeopathically unless any of it creates links with homeopathic provings.

It is quite a call for a rx to cure Rabies/Hydrophobia as well as Gonorrhoea and Scurvy and in fact we cannot call it a rx when many of these instances were carried out by giving the crude plant.

However, very often there is a correlation between homeopathic provings and their allopathic clinical use but we cannot accept that as standard, we have to confirm with provings and having looked at the one proving for this rx there is little to glean that it could be used for Rabies, Gonorrhea or Scurvy, except for the following tenuous links = constriction of the throat, an increase in thirst (rabies state) and bleeding gums (scurvy).

So perhaps more provings are required because it remains a tantalising substance. Its 'sister' rx Tequila offers much more.

Does anyone know if Sankaran has included the Amaryllis family in his 3rd volume of plant rx?

Joy

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