Minutus

I think it's Kent who says that it's surprising to see that after you
give Sulphur for a while and the patient begins to look like Arsenic.

It also makes me think of Iodine which is an OCD remedy, writes lots of
lists, maybe a refugee background in the family which could result in
hoarding?

Gail
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, Sue Boyle wrote:

Wow! Thank you all so much for the great information. This is so helpful. Lynn, thanks for posting that info! Tanya, I did ask and she said she gets panicked thinking about it. Like if she doesn't buy it she won't have enough and she'll also miss out on the deal. I noticed Nux is listed in the rubric you posted. Thanks for that! She is on Nux-V right now as she has a habit of falling asleep watching TV around 8ish and then wakes at 3ish and is up for the day. She has never slept more than 5 hours per night. There were a couple physicals that helped - constipation being one and I thought since it is complementary to Sulph it might be good. It's been a little over a month so it's hard to tell if it's right. I thought it might be significant she said at follow up she recognized the hoarding as being unwell. But she hasn't reduced it or done anything about it. She had an outbreak of a few petechia on her hand (which she also gets occasionally) during the month so I could not tell if it was a similar aggravation or if it occurred despite the remedy. I'll have to wait and watch to see if it occurs again.
I have never used the "avarice" rubric so I am going to have to look at that. Joy, I had thought lycopodium as well as she also has a tendency to jump into the conversation and finish the thought process as if it were her own idea. It's strange - even in terms of small, insignificant things (agan the trifles). Sometimes she has even taken things I have said and said them back to me as if they are her own thoughts ... in the same conversation! But her personality is somewhat meek so I don't think it's trying to be a know it all as much as perhaps wanting to appear intelligent.
I had followed the Sulphur with Calc-C as she was having leg cramps at night waking her from sleep. She did OK on it and I thought perhaps she was following the Sulph-Calc-Lyc trio. She did a few doses of Lycopodium (liquid dosing) after the Calc and before the Nux but said she did not feel well on it. She doesn't really do shopping sprees but she bargain hunts, and "takes home little treasures" from here and there.
I wondered about Arsenicum so thank you Rochelle and Sue for your suggestions. It seems contradictory to give for someone who is so messy but she is organized in her piles of things. And like your case, she can tell you where she bought every last thing and exactly how much she paid for it. She also wrings her hands. And the other symptoms would fit.
Both her and her father get leg cramps at night waking them from sleep. Both she and her mother have a slight head tremor (front to back bobbing) which disappeared with the Sulphur but has returned. I had started with Aurum Sulph because it specifically notes the head bobbing and the financial concern but she did better with the Sulphur. She is a very friendly person and is kind unless crossed. She is harsh on her husband though and gets very angry with him at the least contradiction. She said she frequently feels very angry. (The father was abusive and there is a lot of suppression.) She has a tendency to curse but you would never know it when meeting her.
Liz, I was considering a nosode as well as psora is certainly observable (dandruff, itching). I will review all the info and decide what should be next. Of course, I will let the Nux-V play out and see how that goes before changing anything.
Thanks again everyone for your very helpful contributions.
Truly,
Erica

Do let us know what you decide on, and how it goes - good luck!
Liz

Just as a bit extra and this isn't about signatures as I don't have MM in front of me but doesn't a number of the bird rx have this hoarding as a compulsion, Falcon and others? And definitely a number of the Lacs have this, it appears it might be compensation for lack of nurture, abandonment thread of thinking.

Joy

http://www.joylucashomeopathy.com
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Joy,
Definitely a lack of nurture there ... she received no affection throughout childhood. Both good suggestions which I'll have to look at more deeply.
Jean, I came across this very interesting quote in Melissa Assilem's "The Mad Hatter's Tea Party" book this morning. I don't know if it answers your query but I thought it interesting:
"Greed, which Hahnemann saw as the root to the miasm he named Sycotic, comes from the fear of not having enough, the fear of losing out, the fear of poverty, and starvation. In other words, from the first miasm, the Psoric."
I was rather tickled to come across this while reading this morning as it pretty much sums it up for me.
Truly,
Erica

Thanks Erica. I do not think this aversion to waste is fear of poverty but rather lack of respect for the universe and those who are needy. I suppose if one thinks it is tempting bad karma there would be fear. I am not sure.
I sounds like an interesting book, Jean

In addition to what Rochelle and the others have said, hoarding is a compulsion disorder, so you might look closely at the rubrics for obsessive behavior.
Peace,
Dale

There was an MRI study done of people with hoarding behaviors and
controls. There definately is a part of the brain that takes up less
glucose (it may have been more glucoe, can't remember for sure) so there
is scientific evidence that this is indeed physiological and not just
'in the mind'.

Just thought I'd add this in:-))

Jean Doherty schrieb:

I'd also look at the rest of the case for context--are there other areas of the life or "mental landscape" that seem to suggest any of the possible "reasons" for hoarding, e.g. as given, fear of poverty or irresolution or "delusion, rags are beautiful" or generally obsessive behavior, etc.?
Shannon