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Hi Shannon,

I have heard they are refining it yet again.

Sue

Do you know for what purpose? (I mean, what sort of changes?)

No, I'll ask when I talk to her next week

Sue

I think part of the problem is not enough innovative ways to study materia medica, organon and especially proving symptoms. The whole way that proving symptoms make their way into the materia medica is I think a blur for most students. Also understanding how Boeninghausen worked with proving symptoms to get to the TPB, how Hering worked with them and his opposition to Boeninghausen on this, and how Kent worked with them. It's easier to work with a repertory that has "non-sense" rubrics in it when you understand some of the history and are aware of the alternatives.

There is a dumbing down of curriculum which is frustrating. Teaching is often done according to the lowest common denominator, and spoonfed. And I completely agree that the strongest impression is left by the systems taught in the last years - especially since there's a feeling that this is the "cherry on the top", now that you've done all the boring useless stuff let's get down to the real homeopathy...

Sometimes I feel that schools are trying so hard to bring in students they are basically saying "so the Organon is boring? you don't have to read it. Here, read a summary...". Also from the students' point of view, it's very upsetting when they finish four years of what seems to be hard slog, and then discover that they aren't equipped to treat effectively and to manage cases. I was at a Vega Rosenberg seminar a long time ago, and he said he insisted on a 90% cure rate amongst his students. I don't work with his methods, but the goal is the way it should be. Graduating students are sent out into a world that is often very hostile to homeopathy, often with either overconfidence and a tendence to regurgitate platitudes without understanding what they are talking about, or with complete timidity and lack of tools. I don't know which is more harmful. Sad indeed.

Vera

Hi Vera,
The foreword to the TBP is very short. It should be read itself, for
everyone to digest before discussion.

how Hering worked with them and his opposition to

Where can I find this???

I have ot done much research on him but I am getting more and more
interested, after studying his Homeopathic Physician (the 1875 edition
which was much! enlarged and often revised as compared to the early
Allentown edition).

and how Kent worked with them. It's easier to work

cut

Just as bad is to "read it together" - i. e. tell the students the
teacher's interpretation of what they have read - which is then the
pre-requesite for the tests on the Organon.
Also from the students' point of view, it's very

This is ridiculous!

NO homeopath, not one, has a 90% cure rate!!

There never has bee one who did!

I should run from any homeopath who climed such nonsense for himself.

I don't work with his
Ther will be no progress in this until experienced homeopaths take
interns on a "everyday for months" basis and let them set in in every
one of their appointments.

Every MD will agree that the actual valuable learing phase was when
they worked in the hospitals, which the students do for years before
they even get to be doctors and then for more years before they open
their own practice.

It is only in India so far that hoeopaths even come near this kind of
training. (Iran I do not kow) I hope Malaysia will be the next.

Regards

Luise
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Hi Luise,

In David Little's online course he discusses the different repertories, and their development, also going into discussion about Boeninghausen and the development of the TPB. I've also read on the subject from different sources, but didn't really take notes. I've found Dimitriades' work on Boeninghausen very helpful as well, and although there is some debate about the development of his repertory based on the TPB, it really offers a key for its use.

The idea of taking daily interns is very true and correct - but it requires a switch of orientation on the part of practicing homeopaths which is difficult to do, at least for me. When I'm working with a patient, I'm sitting in a fairly small room. During intake, I'm working on developing a rapport with the patient which will allow them to open up and also to become more aware. There is a certain kind of relationship building involved, especially in the first session, which is essentially a one-on-one connection. Where the case is "close to the surface", I've found it doesn't make a difference to have a student present. But where the case is deeper, harder to get to, it can be made even harder by having a third person sitting in the small room. It's a true dilemma, since intake is what students have to see more of! I'm sure many others have seen many situations where live cases in front of a class of students have not been successful simply because the intimacy and "safety" of the smaller room and the one-on-one connection was missing.

Any suggestions?

Vera

Hi Vera,

What about videotaping (if the patient gives permission, of course),
and letting the students / interns watch that?

Shannon

Hi Shannon,

In principle the idea is good, and one that many homeopaths do use. Something to be considered, although not all patients are happy with it.

Vera
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Don't you mean - Not enough innovative ways to study CASES and case
symptoms?


You did not even list cases as relevant there:-)
(An oversight I am sure - but proof of the need for change of
approach from the ingrained one without cases, and which leads to
what I call "working backwards".)

Namaste,
Irene
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