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Re: looking for rubric: fainting after injections

Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 9:20 pm
by Dave Hartley
> It makes you wonder what exactly are the effects of a hysterectomy. Where do

Other tissues. This is why surgery alone seldom cures cancer, as
cancer is a combination of susceptibility and a sustained etiology
which generally includes self negating emotions.

In any event, I suppose you've discovered why men have no emotions ;)

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Re: looking for rubric: fainting after injections

Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 10:18 pm
by Liz Brynin
Yes....didn't like to say so, but as you point out!!! :)
Liz

Re: looking for rubric: fainting after injections

Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 10:46 pm
by Glenda Wilks
No womb for them.......:)

Cheers
Glenda

Re: looking for rubric: fainting after injections

Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 4:32 am
by Dale Moss
Vera,
It could be a "venous vagus" incident. There are undoubtedly other names for this phenomenon, but the vagus nerve is stimulated by sudden fluid loss, pain, sight of blood, etc., and shuts down the system abruptly. My ex- used to have these. He'd get up in the middle of the night to urinate -- and collapse. The first time it happened, I thought he was having a stroke!
I now have a teenage patient who's fainted after allergy tests (although in her case I'm not absolutely sure she did not have a seizure).
Peace,
Dale

Re: looking for rubric: fainting after injections

Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 4:57 am
by Rosemary Hyde
Dale, this was a very interesting suggestion – makes sense. The rubrics about fainting from seeing blood are really tiny – I suspect that, unfortunately, they may not be complete. It’s such a strong symptom when it occurs… do you have any other rubric suggestions? (I’ve just seen a new client today who happens to have this very symptom…).
Rosemary
Recognizing that past turmoil and future rhapsodies are projections of our mind prevents us from getting stuck in them. Just as the face in the mirror is not a real face, the objects of our memories and daydreams are likewise unreal. They are not happening now; they are simply mental images flickering in the mind.

Thubten Chodron, from Taming the Mind (Snow Lion)
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Vera,

It could be a "venous vagus" incident. There are undoubtedly other names for this phenomenon, but the vagus nerve is stimulated by sudden fluid loss, pain, sight of blood, etc., and shuts down the system abruptly. My ex- used to have these. He'd get up in the middle of the night to urinate -- and collapse. The first time it happened, I thought he was having a stroke!
I now have a teenage patient who's fainted after allergy tests (although in her case I'm not absolutely sure she did not have a seizure).
Peace,

Dale

Re: looking for rubric: fainting after injections

Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 3:55 pm
by Dale Moss
Hi, Rosemary,
As for rubrics, I'm not sure they'll get to the core, although you might try combining GEN., fainting, tendency, blood, at sight of; MIND, blood, wounds; MIND, unconsciousness, blood; MIND, fear wounds.
Perhaps it would be more productive to explore why the Px faints -- what associations does blood have for this person? Is it a reminder that the Px, too, could lose blood? Does it suggest the possibility of violence? Is it blood or pain that actually causes the fainting? Are there other examples of a pronounced parasympathetic nervous response?
Peace,
Dale

Re: looking for rubric: fainting after injections

Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 3:57 pm
by Dale Moss
Hi, Rosemary,
Another idea: what's causing all those episodes of syncope in young women and girls receiving Gardasil? (Not that this has anything to do with your Px, but I think it's a question docs and homeopaths ought to be asking.)
Peace,
Dale

Re: looking for rubric: fainting after injections

Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 8:45 pm
by andyh
Despite the client (in her conscious experience) claiming not fearful:
This rubric may be considered (may have already been mentioned or used by
you Vera):

(Complete Rep 2009) - Fear of points, sharp things: alum, apis, ars, bov,
lac-del, lac-f, merc, nat-m, nelu, plat, sil, SPIG, uran-n

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Crossing Faintness (synth 10 combined with RU 2005) with the above rubric
yields:
ALUM, apis, ARS, bov, MERC, NAT-M, plat, SIL, SPIG, uran-n

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