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Re: Chappell\'s resonance provings?

Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 2:20 pm
by Shannon Nelson
Hi Dave,
Two (at least) factors have to be considered. One is how far you are
from the source, but the other is how *strong* the source is. Years
back, before my sister appropriated my EMF meter :-) I went thru the
house measuring the fields put out by this, that and the other. What I
found was that the laptop's field was very small, not a strong one.
Our desktop at that time was a CRT type, which had a HUGE and very
strong field. Then our newer, flat-screen desktop was somewhere in
between, tho I don't remember exactly where along the continuum, except
noted that face about 18 inches away is pretty much "in the safe zone",
but the way my son liked to work, with his face much closer to the
screen, appeared to be pretty much cooking his head. :-) (Well,
tongue in cheek...)

If the laptop is *in the lap*, then yes, your thighs are probably
getting a good dose of magnetism (that's all I was measuring). Even
putting it on a pillow should make a big difference from that
standpoint. And if you have your laptop sitting on a table, then the
field is pretty negligible--at least according to my measuring and
understanding.

The strength of the magnetic field is directly proportionate to the
strength of the electrical current running the machine. So a computer
(or refrigerator or whatever) which uses a lot of energy to run, will
put out a stronger (and therefore larger) magnetic field than will one
that draws only a smaller current--such as a laptop. (Dave, I know
you're familiar with this, but perhaps someone else will find it
useful!)

Shannon

Re: Chappell\'s resonance provings?

Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 2:56 pm
by Ellen Madono
Thanks Shannon,

I don't see my replies so I didn't know what they look like. This is
better. Sorry about my hard to find email behavior.

My husband says that the current laptops are using direct current
which should not produce magnetic waves. If you are using a wireless
computer signal, the amount should increase. In Tokyo, we are totally
surrounded by huge towers sending out wireless telephone signals. I
can't imagine what that does. According to him, the 100 watt
lightbulb uses more electricity than a laptop. Of course, he does not
want to part with his laptop. Thus the heavy comeback from him.

Best,
Ellen

Re: Chappell\'s resonance provings?

Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 5:17 pm
by Dave Hartley
> According to him, the 100 watt

Sure, a 2Ghz 100 watt lightbulb would be one heck of an RF source.
Laptop or notebook computers are one of those devices that are
sometimes used in direct contact with the body. Many college students,
travelers, gamers, and other people use a laptop on their lap
(essentially at zero distance from the body) There is a common
recommendation limit exposure to fields over 1 mG. A laptop computer
in direct contact can emit an incredible 150 mG, which is 150 times
the recommended limit!

We are constantly bathed in "electro pollution" and air pollution
(oh, and don't drink the water!) .. with the amount of potentially
toxic inputs, any of which may "co-factor" with another .. it is
amazing that we aren't developing alzheimers at age 25.

In a draft report issued in March 1990, the EPA recommended that EMFs
be classified as a Class B carcinogen -- -a "probable human carcinogen
and joined the ranks of formaldehyde, DDT, dioxins and PCBs.

Magnetic field is measured with gauss meter;
interacts oddly and powerfully with ELF (extra low frequency ..as in,
say.. your 60hz ac home electrical wiring which surrounds you...)
Experiment has shown these principles used to induce "RESONANCE" of
lithium ... which had a sedative effect on rats.

RF sources include cellphone (& towers, of course), microwave: ovens,
police radar, WiFi, TV, radio, more.

http://www.powerwatch.org.uk/news/20030531_becker.asp
http://www.mercola.com/article/emf/emf_dangers.htm
http://www.electrosensitivity-support.com/id5.html
http://www.electrosensitivity-support.com
http://proliberty.com/observer/20070910.htm
warm wishes,
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Re: Chappell\'s resonance provings?

Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 9:34 pm
by Tanya Marquette
look in a hobby/craft store for small copper wire or copper plates.
or get some copper piping from a construction site, etc.
the damn stuff costs a fortune these days.

tanya

Re: Chappell\'s resonance provings?

Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 9:46 pm
by Shannon Nelson
Oh duh, we've got remnants of copper piping in our basement, and I
think wire too. Thanks for that!
So it doesn't have to be flat and round, and stick right to the monitor?

Re: Chappell\'s resonance provings?

Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 11:40 pm
by Leilanae
It's the best word I can think of to describe the feeling. There is a definite feeling of having
your hands in a "field" and I noticed my hands got very warm. Was using a borrowed lap top
while the desktop was having a transplant.
I was wondering about this ........
Oh great, than means the plastic bag of pennies on top of and hanging over the front of the computer isn't working?

Re: Chappell\'s resonance provings?

Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 11:48 pm
by Leilanae
Hi Tanya,

Does the copper need to be grounded?

Leilanae

Re: Chappell\'s resonance provings?

Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 2:07 am
by Ellen Madono
Dear Dave,
The meter on Chapelle's site costs 350 dollars or pounds. So another
approximate measure is needed. People are recommending radio static
and a heard measure. What do you think?
Best,
Ellen

Re: Chappell\'s resonance provings?

Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 2:28 am
by Dave Hartley
Dear Leilanae,

any attempts at shielding will be 100x more effective if grounded.

this is why the tinfoil had approach doesn't work so well

-something like the Tesla / Faraday cage .. depends totally on perfect grounding;
could be worse than nothing without grounding, would be interesting to find some test result of such.

There are zillions of sales pitches around this issue. Spend those pennies wisely ;-)
warm wishes,
david 510.776.5914 fax: 510.336.6671
www.holistiq.com
www.DavidHartley.com
I.T. support: www.cafegratitude.com
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web developer: www.iamResourceful.com

Re: Chappell\'s resonance provings?

Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 7:53 am
by Dave Hartley
Hi Ellen,

This one is $150, and is "tri-field" - combines magnetic, electric, and radio/microwave detectors in one package, so that the entire nonionizing electromagnetic spectrum is covered.
http://www.trifield.com/EMF_meter.htm
warm wishes,
david 510.776.5914 fax: 510.336.6671
www.holistiq.com
www.DavidHartley.com
I.T. support: www.cafegratitude.com
co-founder: www.GratefulMindandBody.com
web developer: www.iamResourceful.com