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Re: Help with patient please?

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2002 1:41 am
by Dr. R. Swift
Rochelle,

I am a little confused.
You said "...comes up with lots of ideas but doesn't always put them into
practice
(Sulph) because he doesn't have the guts (Lyco) to do so." Yet "A very
confident man ". These seem contradictory.

If he was moving into itchy skin as his deeper pathology changed, I would
not see why the change of remedy. Itching would be a good sign. If this is
the case, I would go back to Lyc.

Also, I think of Lyco as a hot remedy, i.e. intolerant of HEAT. If he was
chillier (less tolerant of cold) early on, perhaps that was because of his
weight loss. As he moved back to a normal weight, perhaps his "hot
bloodedness" was apparent again.

be well

russell swift, dvm

Re: Help with patient please?

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2002 1:55 am
by Rochelle
Dear Russell,

From Boericke I have found:-
Lacks
vital heat; has poor circulation, cold extremities.

I have always thought of Lycopodium like this so was surprised to find that
you look on the remedy as a hot remedy. Can you please explain where this
comes from?

You wrote:-

Lycopodium I have always been taught of as a remedy that appears very
confident but deep down is a coward. They put on a show, are outspoken and
it is really all a cover for their insecurities.

However you may well be right about returning to the Lycopodium. However I
would want to see more keynotes of the remedy returning or I would think
that Lyco. did it's job and it is time to move on.
Regards,
Rochelle
www.rochellemarsden.co.uk

Re: Help with patient please?

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2002 10:18 am
by Joy Lucas
Hi Rochelle, patience and leaving the client on the one remedy for as long
as he needs it is the obvious key here. I don't quite understand why you
gave Sulph, but can I ask if you started the case with Lyc and whether there
were any immediate aggravations which you can get from Lyc. which the MM
tells us about.

Lycopodium is a prominent cancer remedy of course but the time modalities
don't really fit here. I would be re-taking the whole case again and not
just prescribing on the few details you write about here. Good luck, Joy.
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Re: Help with patient please?

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2002 10:45 am
by Joy Lucas
Dear Rochelle,

Apologies re my last post I have read yours out of sequence. However,
Lycopodium = skin; hives, violent itching, fissured eruptions, eczema
associated with urinary, gastric and hepatic disorders, bleeds easily,
varicose veins, naevi, erectile tumours etc (Phatak). In my opinion I don't
think you needed to change the remedy at all. The emergence of an eruption
is wonderful. And by the way Lycopodium is warm to hot - can't stand heat,
warm stuffy rooms, hot rooms, hot air or getting hot in bed, <<< warm
applications.

And where did Abrotanum come from???

I think its best to clear your mind of any remedy and just re-take the total
case. Things have definately moved on but you run the risk of suppression
just treating parts. Make your decision carefully.

So many rx begin to fit the sx you mention - Nat carb has the need to eat at
11.00am, as does Zinc, Aloe, Nat mur and quite a few others. And stool
driving him out of bed early morning could be Aloe or Psorinum, Kali Bich,
Podo, Nat Sulph, Tub + others.

If you feel like sending us the whole case please do.

Good luck, Joy
From: "rochelle"
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Re: Help with patient please?

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2002 3:57 pm
by Dr. R. Swift
Rochelle,

As I have learned, "hot" and "chilly" remedies refers to which temperatures
one is INTOLERANT. A hot person is intolerant of heat, likes air
conditioning/fans, etc. A chilly person is intolerant of cold. One can feel
chilly yet be intolerant of heat, therefore, needing a hot remedy.
Pulsatilla, for example, that way.

I have also learned the idea of lyc. lacking confidence internally but
putting on airs, although I don't think that is in a proving. Of course, a
proving typically brings out functional (psoric) symptoms. If someone is
feeling cowardly but acting confident, they are probably in a sycotic state,
which seems to fit your patient's physcial pathology as well. As the patient
gets healthier, the move will be back to psora from sycosis and you would
expect to see less deception and more of the "cowardice".

What confused me was your comment that he is "a very confident man" not that
he was acting confident. Barging into an office can be a lot of things other
than confident, such as rude or dictatorial. Overall, if a patient is still
heading in the right direction, I can't see changing remedies even if the
picture changes.

be well

russell swift, dvm

Re: Help with patient please?

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2002 9:37 pm
by Dave Hartley
Lycopodium = chilly, lowered vitality.
Burning pains relieved by heat
"helps in selection of Lyc over any other remedy: abdominal distress
relieved by hot drinks."
headache, skin irritation other symptoms
Sensitivity to cool air
Want of vital heat
Dave Hartley
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Santa Cruz, CA (831)423-4284
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Re: Help with patient please?

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2002 10:25 pm
by Rochelle
Hi Dave,
It looks as if at least you and I are using the same MMs!!!!!

Regards,
Rochelle
www.rochellemarsden.co.uk

Re: Help with patient please?

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2002 12:55 am
by Dave Hartley
Hi Rochelle,

re:
"It looks as if at least you and I are using the same MMs!!!!!"

I think you are using CaraPro?

We would be using SOME of the same MM's no doubt, but Encyclopedia
Homeopathica has much more available MM & other material- this was one of my
prime reasons for wanting to obtain it.

This table shows the MM & other references available in the various packages
of EH
http://www.wholehealthnow.com/homeopath ... s-EGX.html

I used CaraPro since it was first available, & upgraded a couple of times.
Next I got ReferenceWorks, since I was disappointed with the MM in CaraPro;
the combination of the two was OK, but no interactivity between programs...

The EH 1.3 & RADAR 8 "expert" version which I now use seems to me to be
better than anything else on the market;
Extensive libraries
Speed
Flexible & adjustable search parameters (word stemming on/off, wildcarding,
proximity, & more)
Excellent interactivity between the EH MM program & RADAR Repertory- as well
as the "WinChip" program- which is a practice-management tool, tracks client
data including allowing repertorizations to be imported from RADAR & saved
(on each visit if need be ;) -treatment plan, followups, billing, etc.

www.wholehealthnow.com/homeopathy_software/eh.html
www.wholehealthnow.com/homeopathy_software/radar.html

I believe it's a close call between RefWorks & EH in terms of who's got the
most data available in the "Expert/Pro" versions, but there's no contest in
terms of which is quicker, more flexible, easier to use, and to transpose
data from (cut'n'paste) and so on.. MacRep & RADAR are also probably
reasonably close matches (except that RADAR is based on Syntesis 8.0
Repertory -far to be preferred over Kent, I think ;) The fullest
"Expert/Pro" versions of EH/RADAR are comparable priced to MacRef/MacRep,
but for the month of March it appears there is nearly a 50% discount in
effect, which also applies to 3 different levels of EH/RADAR from "basic" to
"expert"
http://www.wholehealthnow.com/homeopath ... _sale.html
regards,

p.s. I think CaraPro published some downloadable fixes for Murphy's & maybe
some other books, which you could find on their website
www.miccant.com/download_free.htm
Dave Hartley
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Santa Cruz, CA (831)423-4284
mailto:dave@localcomputermart.com
Asheville Computer (N. Carolina) (828)285-0240

Re: Help with patient please?

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2002 1:22 am
by Rochelle
Looking back to the first Follow Up in August 2000 the only agg this patient
had was an intense sore throat which was eating. I started on 30C split dose as he was so weak.
Interestingly looking at the original case taking the time modalities were
the only thing that didn't seem to fit Lyco. I amnot going to bother
sending the full case as itreally is not a problem one as he has done sooo
well over the last 2 years and I hope it will stay that way. I did explain
somewhere why I changed to Sulphur.

Regards
Rochelle
www.rochellemarsden.co.uk

Re: Help with patient please?

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2002 1:25 am
by Rochelle
Dear Joy,
The Abrot. was a suggestion from 2 people on the list

I think its best to clear your mind of any remedy and just re-take the
total

I did not prescribe and since the problem does not appear to be there now I
do not intend to. Alow was the rx that came up best from my rep and I
suggested that he takes a 10day course of Aloe Vera Juice which won;t do him
any harm!!

I can't see the point of sending the whole case to the list as I would
rather leave that to one's I am really having a problem with.

Regards,
Rochelle

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