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Re: layered cases

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2002 5:59 am
by Rosemary Hyde
Thanks, Dave. You've laid out an excellent set of studies on this topic.
Rosemary C. Hyde

Re: layered cases

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2002 6:00 am
by Rosemary Hyde
Hi, Joy. I feel as if we ARE sitting around a big (if virtual) table, and
that discussing our cases and the issuess that arise as we work with them is
a wonderful learning opportunity. Thanks, again. Rosemary C. Hyde

Re: layered cases

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2002 6:15 am
by Rosemary Hyde
Interesting -- I'd never applied these aphorisms to the concept "layered
case" before. Duhh...

Thanks. Rosemary C. Hyde

Re: layered cases

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2002 12:19 pm
by The Annans'
Doesn't §171 have any bearing here?

It says:
"In non-venereal chronic diseases, those most commonly, therefore, that
arise from psora, we often require, in order to effect a cure, to give
several anti-psoric remedies in succession, every successive one being
homeopathically chosen in consonance with the group of symptoms remaining
after completetion of the action of the previous remedy."

This is what I thought of when while following this case and the subject of
*layers* came up.
And this sounds to me like what Allen was talking about below;).......?
Best regards,
Lisa

Re: layered cases

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2002 2:15 pm
by Joy Lucas
Dave, you wrote

In a true layered case nothing is really superficial. Each layer is another
totality to work on.

Regards, Joy
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Re: layered cases

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2002 2:22 pm
by Joy Lucas
Allen wrote

What happened to the unprejudiced observer?? If you decide beforehand that a
case is going to be layered then it will only encourage you to take bibs and
bobs of the case and tear it apart and prescribe only on aspects of the case
rather than the whole picture. You will never reach the simillimum in this
way.

Yes life is complicated but it always has been. Finding single remedy cures
only seems complicated because we do not know our materia medicas well
enough. Single remedy cures represents about 90% of my practice. This isn't
optimism it is homoeopathy. Be confident and learn as many remedies as
possible. Best wishes, Joy Lucas
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Re: layered cases

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2002 2:33 pm
by Joy Lucas
Lisa, yes but the most important part here is..."group of symptoms remaining
after completion of the action of the previous remedy."

You must wait until that action is finished.

Best wishes, Joy
Joy

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Re: layered cases

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2002 7:05 pm
by Piet Guijt
Dave wrote:

part
superficial
simillimum
theory

'Include thought on miasm' should have as concequence (otherwise it is
meaningless):
Prescribing on the dominant miasm, this means sorting out the symptoms.
Use some for the selection of the simillimum and ignore others, because they
don't represent the current Central disturbance.
But ignoring symptoms, means a layered approach.
By the way Hahnemann saw the miasms seperated from the constitution.

Piet

Re: layered cases

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2002 7:05 pm
by Piet Guijt
another
Yes Joy, the nail on the head !

Piet

Re: layered cases

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2002 7:05 pm
by Piet Guijt
Joy,

This reads much better,
Ofcoarse we always looking for one remedy.
But this is not always the 'grand constitutional remedy'. Psoric patients
react good and for a long time to one remedy.
But more complicated cases with severe pathology/ multiple miasm need often
another approach.
That's why I asked you, to explain a little more.
People might get the wrong impression.
Thanks for your reply.

Piet