Minutus

Hi Ann,
If using low potency doses (if I remember right she has suggested 6c?
Which is low), then you can indeed switch after a couple of weeks (or
possibly sooner). Low potencies have a different "pacing" than high
potencies, and sometimes begin to act more quickly than high--although
the action does not last as long.

You do not seem to have much confidence at *all* in the homeopath, tho.
Does it seem as tho she's "experimenting" and uncertain, or maybe not
explaining things to you?

Shannonn

Aconite is all about fear and anxiety, whether acute or chronic and that fear/anxiety can take many forms and being touched can be comforting when we are referring to a child, even an adult.

But the actual 'does not want to be touched' is when the skin begins to burn from internal congestion, say during a fever, 'flu, or when the weather is intolerably hot. the burning is a mixture of numbness and tingling and this is sore and thus <<< touch. Aconite skin can be very red and hot to touch - measles rx probably.

All symptoms need the correct context.

Joy

http://www.joylucashomeopathy.com
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/homeopathystudy/

<< Based on your comments I am reversing the order and need to apply
the symptoms to the remedy. But when you have two that you believe
may work, my homeopath say you focus on the chronic items which
determine the remedy?

Personally I use the match of current mind symptoms/state as the MOST
relevant of all.

<

???
I know my memory is poor, but I can not imagine using such a term?

Can we go back to quote of whatever wording used it?
.........IRene
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P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
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"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

Not standard, but it can be done if using low potency repeated doses.
Their pacing is different, tends to show itself sooner, and action in
an "average" chronic case usually only a few days (can of course be
different, and one needs to see). Is it excellent homeopathy?
Certainly not, but it's better than winging *high* potencies, then
being committed to a four-to-six week waiting period after each one. I
know I'll be jumped on for saying this and that's okay...
Shannon

Hi Irene,
I fully agree that one should try to get the right one the first time.

However, the emphasis is on try. When I read what you and others like
Joy write it appears that it is standard and common that this remedy
is found at first try.

But just too often I read from presumably well-trained and experienced
homeopaths that this does not seem to be so at all. They do not say
so, but it does not need too much skill at deduction to come to this
conclusion from what they do say.

Also pretty often there are posts where patients - mostly homeopaths
themselves - report that they have seen very well-known homeopaths and
still not been cured or much improved.

Wouldn't it be better to be honest and to admit that finding the
smillimum at first try and sometimes even at second and third is
rather the exception?

Homeopaths in practice are as a rule very much on their own and tend
to feel very incompetent, since it seems that they - a certain
individual of them - is awfully inferior as compared to all the people
that are writing about finding the simillimum for certain or almost
certain (viz. such statements as: we do not need to use tautopathy,
the simillimum will do it better - implying or not saying outright,
that it is a matter of course that a homeopath worth this name should
find it fast enough even in acute cases.

To repeat: experience in reading what is written on the forums and
lists or even what is written in the books of classical authors (viz.
e. g. after this and this and this and this did not work, THIS then
did the trick) it very much appears that it is not so common after
all.

Maybe you and Joy and others who make those statements ARE exceptions
and you always find the simillimum right away or at least in the
majority of cases - but please do acknowledge that, if you do, you are
exceptions rather than the rule.

What the heck is the use of pretending.

In many if not most cases patients will come back and nothing has
happened and another remedy has to be tried. This was so with
Hahnmann, with v. Boenninghausen - and most probably with every one
else. And it is a sign of honesty, not of incompetence, to tell the
patient this at the very start, so that the patient gets an idea of
what may happen.

This, in turn, will increase the reputation of homeopathy. If patients
are made or allowed to believe that the first remedy will be the right
one, they will lose confidence at the 3rd attempt at the latest:
confidence in the homeopath - but worse, probably confidence in
homeopathy.

IMO

Regards

Luise
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One thought to all who, free of doubt,
So definitely know what's true:
2 and 2 is 22 -
and 2 times 2 is 2:-)
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I'm sorry! This was the quote below. It very accurately describes what is called "negative prescribing" - selecting (or ruling out) a remedy based on symptoms not present in the patient.
Truly,
Erica
Irene wrote: One never selects a remedy on a symptom that is not present in the patient - so in other words, the fact that your son is not averse to touch, is completely irrelevant to remedy selection, because it is not a symptom of relevance for him.

Any remedy can help about 10,000 symptoms. Thankfully people do not need all ten thousand for the remedy to help them. One must start with the symptoms of the patient (NOT the symptoms the
remedy is documented as able to help) and if the PATIENT's symptoms are included in the remedy's "repertoire" of ten thousand items, - then the remedy will help the symptoms the patient has.
What else the remedy can do, is completely irrelevant.

Just for the record, 'first try' can actually become third or fourth or worse - don't know where you get the assumption from that first is easy - certainly not suggested by me, but you have to put the work in to aim for it. Your assumptions are getting in the way and a false argument/discussion ensues. Haven't got the time to debate in this vacuous manner. Also do not like the 'But just too often I read from presumably well-trained and experienced homeopaths that this does not seem to be so at all' .
'Homeopaths feel incompetent' - where do you come from Louise, do you have too much time on your hands.
The doubt on this forum appalls me and stirring up this sort of rubbish is pointless.
I think your mischief stick has been overworked - as usual.
Joy
http://www.joylucashomeopathy.com
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/homeopathystudy/

Oh I see what you mean - just not a term I'd use, I feel it is too
easy to accidentally misinterpret it. Also I never use "prescribe", I
only recommend or suggest etc etc
I kinda like to be very specific:-)

Namaste,
Irene
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P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

Dear Luise,

Thank you for writing and I thought carefully about what you said -
but I believe my original answer covers all the points I wished to
make, and those you make, already. Contrary to the implications of
your post, it does not claim to always get the remedy right first
time:-) It does suggest using proper technique rather than guessing.
(I leave both posts below as it otherwise loses context)

Namaste,
Irene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."