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Re: Seroxat

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:03 am
by Chris_Gillen
I think if you have a patient who has abstained from taking anti-depressant
therapy for 3 years, you are BLESSED!! One of the most difficult obstacles
to cure has already been removed from the case. What you are left with 3
years later in the current miasmatic picture is the modified natural disease
and the patient's constitutional response to the drug suppression. If she
now has balance, vertigo or perception problems along with depression she is
throwing out some very useful clues for a suitable anti-miasmatic medicine.
I would take the case as normal and note down symptoms with *clear*
modalities, sensations and concomitants. Good casetaking and analysis is
essential. Then you can focus on making a homoeopathic prescription based on
current symptoms, rather than resorting to a whole bunch of theoretical
assumptions surrounding the pathways of potentized allopathic drugs and
first or last lines of attack. :-)
Chris Gillen

Re: Seroxat

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 9:14 am
by Katja Schütt
Tautopathic prescribing, i.e. the potentized allopathic drug as well as isopathic remedies should only be given as a last resort of treatment - if the indicated remedy fails to act, or if there is no clear symptom picture. First I would try to identify and give the indicated remedy according to the patient's totality of symptoms.
Katja

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Re: Seroxat

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 9:14 am
by Liz Brynin
Talking about nicotine receptors in the brain, Professor Richard Mackarness, part of the clinical ecology movement, developed a method of treating allergy or addiction (two sides of the same coin) with very dilute amounts of the substances in question. This can (and still is) being used today to stop people smoking very effectively. A dilution (but not a succussion) of tobacco smoke in water is used (further diluted according to each patient's particular 'endpoint') and a drop is placed on the tongue. This has the effect of switching off the chemical receptors in the brain which in turn stops the physical craving.
Liz Brynin
I do this most of the time.
Any drug has 2 aspects when looking at side-effects: the chemical and the energetic.
The chemical SE, like nutrient depletion as was already written, or enzyme blockage as happens with statins, are best addressed by nutritional and supplemental means, sometimes targeted remedies (herbal or homeopathic) that compensate or reverse the organic malfunction.
The energetic aspect means that there is a "legacy" of the drug; those molecules have been diluted in the blood stream and through the circulation sort of "succussed"; in turn they have an energetic action on receptors as Prof Quemoun has demonstrated with potentised nicotine blocking the nicotine receptors in the brain (unfortunately he did not publish his research and has never answered my letters to send me the material).
By giving the potentised drug, we simply lift the blockages, the energetic effects of the drug; it is "removing the obstacles to cure"; then the real picture, with real damage, emerges and it becomes easier to find the appropriate remedy.
I found out in my practice that the longer the drug has been taken and the more severe the SE, the more this Isotherapic/tautopathic technique is needed. I have successfully treated patients with the indicated remedy without resorting to isotherapy, but most of them, if memory serves well, were patients wanting to get rid of the drugs and their disease. Almost every time I was confronted with severe SE, I had to resort to giving the potentised drug, along with organ repair and drainage.
All fully explained in my book, btw........
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind".
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Re: Seroxat

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:15 am
by Rochelle
Exactly the way I feel about it Katja, Susan and Christine. I see her in under an hour and will report back!!
Rochelle
Registered Homeopath
EFT(Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk

Re: Seroxat

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 4:05 pm
by Rochelle
Bamba A comes up for a lot of this woman's stuff but se doesn't have any real back issues. Has anyone given it without the back issues. I only had a 1M in and didn't want to give her that!!!
Rochelle
Registered Homeopath
EFT(Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk

Re: Seroxat

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 4:35 pm
by Shannon Nelson
I think it's one of those "over-represented remedies"!

Re: Seroxat

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 7:58 pm
by Didi Ananda Rucira
Hi all,

While I've never used, specifically, tautopathics for anti-depressants, I have extensively used them for detoxing for all other conditions. So I don't see why it wouldn't help here.

Generally I give 3-5 doses of the offending drug-in-potency to detox before reviewing the case again for further symptomatic treatment for whatever remains. Depending on the case I may give also the tautopathic in ascending doses.

Diseases cured in this manner include side effects of

chloroquin for malaria/epilepsy - gave china sulph
depoprovera - millions of side effects, incl pseudo hypotension, infertility, amenorrhea, metroagrrhia
antibiotics
epilepsy drugs
asthma inhalers - acth or the direct tautopathic
steroids - acth
etc.
Sincerely,
Didi Ananda Ruchira
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Re: Seroxat

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:13 pm
by Grace Dasilva-Hill
I would consider withdrawal symptoms as being also side-effects, have never really given
it much thought; or are they different?

As for potency, it depends; if still on the drug (which is not the case here) I normally
prescribe 30c three times weekly, otherwise 30c sd and ask patient for feedback. However,
I have found Seroxat to be quite nasty and persistent, hence one difficult to deal with.
Best, Grace

-- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, "rochelle" wrote:
effects stated in the book. How do you prescribe it- what potency?

Re: Seroxat

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:46 pm
by Shannon Nelson
One of my off-and-on patients (a friend) is having terrible trouble
coming off of Lemictal (sp?), an anti-epileptic. In the past when
we've tried isopathy it's never done much for her, but my efforts were
pretty tentative. Didi, what potency and/or repetition, and/or how do
you decide potency?
Shannon

Re: Seroxat

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:48 pm
by Shannon Nelson
Thanks Grace, that's a higher potency than I've used, so maybe we'll
try that... Where do you get them from? (In the past I wasn't able to
find the specific ones she was on, so a couple of times she made her
own, so was happy to stop about about 6!)
Shannon