Minutus

Have to agree:-(

.........Irene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

I did get that the book you referenced was hers and the pyramid his,
thanks:-)
I like neither.

From here you have your words and mine completely mingled - very
hard to make the conversation work.
No it is not mainly low glycemic. That's a very small part of it. You
have not read his books or attended his lectures or you would not say
that. He devotes an entire book to the antioxidants in food for
example, and in his lectures he always stresses the cell wall
phospholipid layer functions and how to keep them optimal.
Not only does he conclude it, he has proved it with research.
In his lectures, (which I have attended) he demonstrates clearly the
chemical reactions involved at a very detailed level.

That's not correct.
Cell wall inflammation has top do with cell wall flexibility, and
that in turn has to do with the phospholipid layer's ability to flex.
Molecules enter or exit the cell by having to get through an opening
when the wall flexes.

Systemic inflammation by contrast, involves the immune system and the
interactions between cytokines and eicosanoids like prostaglandins,
thromboxanes, prostacyclins etc, resulting in an immune system
response by blood products - nothing to do with cell walls.

Yes but this is an isolated item - not an overview of his work and
results:-)
He IS concerned about the dangers of glycation etc from starch and
carbohydrates - but that's not ALL he's concerned with.

Actually you are mistaken in making this assumption. Yes he's a
dermatologist but his approach is unusual in that he believes and
states that "beauty starts within" and goes on to explain that he
means by this that your skin will automatically be healthy and good
looking if your insides consist of happy cells with healthy cell
walls to allow healthy function.

It is specifically this approach of healing from the inside - that
attracts me, as it also follows gthe homeopathic principles to do
likewise.

Yeah he has expensive topicals - you can buy them if you like.
I only advocate his principles of healthy cells and the diet to
attain that.
Obviously.
It's not Perricon'e expertise area to figure blood/gene type
specifics so as to fine tune his diet for blood type. We have to do
that by taking the right things from each expert - (D'Adamo has the
blood type/genotype expertise) - it's not going to come tuned
individually in any book. I've advocated this many times - to use the
expertise of the researcher and leave the rest - which is needed
from other experts - each in a specific way.
The fact that Perricone lacks blood/gene type fine tuning info does
not negate what he does have. Nobody has ALL of it:-)
And - Hopefully - allergies come under "common sense"

Weil has no expertise I need, nor the other lady with the If boo.
Neither has shown me any expertise area that I can respect.
Dr Perricone has - Dr D'Adamo has - the Drs Heller's have, Dr
Bernstein has - Dr Rozencwajg has (his book on drainage and
organotherapy etc) and some others. All this, tuned to me, tells me
what is right for ME to eat.
I take their expertise area in each case. The combined expertise is
great
Says a lot:-)
Namaste,
Irene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

We can all poke fun at Dr. Weil. We should not ignore his influence especially on those over 50 who may begin to have health problems based on years of improper diet advice along with aging.

He writes a Dr. Debunker column for AARP magazine, sent to all members.

AARP operates as a non-profit advocate for its members, one of the most powerful lobbying groups in the United States, and also sells insurance, investment funds and other financial products. AARP claims over 38 million members, making it one of the largest membership organizations for people age 50 and over in the United States. Membership is expected to grow significantly as baby boomers age. (wikipedia)

His September-October 2008 post:

The Blood Type Diet: By Andrew Weil, M.D.

"This popular eating plan ought to be sacked"

http://www.aarpmagazine.org/health/dr_d ... _diet.html

Other archived columns deal with vaccines, anti-aging, mercury fillings, ... Interestingly, over time, he has had all his mercury fillings replaced with gold ones. Is he proving Aurum as time goes on? We'll see how Dr. Weil behaves in the future. I've bolded below what may apply to Dr. Weil:

"Aurum is renowned for its ability to cure the deepest imaginable depressions and suicidal states. The patient may feel no connection to life, existing in a dark and isolated void. Seeing a single patient overcome a life time of joyless existence and bloom into happiness after Aurum pays for every hour of our years of study. This is a remedy that often suites people who are very intense, idealistic and who want to be the best and set high goals. When these goals are frustrated in some way, the Aurum patient will go through a period of tremendous irritability, and even violent ideas or thoughts. It is also a remedy which can be devastated by grief and disappointed love relations. Often the patient will have deep religious convictions. Finally, despite the spiritual work, the patient goes toward deep, clinical depressions and suicide.
Many prescribers shun the use of this powerful polycrest if suicidal feelings are not present. However, many cases which require Aurum have no suicidal intent nor even conscious depression, instead the patient presents as an overly-serious and polished individual with abnormal focus on career and achievement. Such individuals are also vulnerable to addictive behaviors and drug or alcohol abuse. Nancy Herrick of the Hahnemann Clinic presented a medley of video taped cases emphasizing the desire for meditation practice and deep spiritual longings of Aurum patients. One of her cases was deeply disturbed and actively hallucinating.
Aurum is one of our main anti-syphilitic remedies. The physical pathology often involves headache, sinusitis, and heart disease."

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/homeopathy ... S/aur.html
"The AARP has become a remarkable marketing and political machine"

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/08/ ... 7804.shtml

Susan
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, Irene de Villiers wrote:

And he thinks vaccines are just fine.

I saw through him years ago.
Sheri

At 04:26 PM 9/18/2008, you wrote:

It's not Perricon'e expertise area to figure blood/gene type
specifics so as to fine tune his diet for blood type. We have to do
that by taking the right things from each expert - (D'Adamo has the
blood type/genotype expertise) - it's not going to come tuned
individually in any book. I've advocated this many times - to use the
expertise of the researcher and leave the rest - which is needed
from other experts - each in a specific way.
The fact that Perricone lacks blood/gene type fine tuning info does
not negate what he does have. Nobody has ALL of it:-)
And - Hopefully - allergies come under "common sense"

Weil has no expertise I need, nor the other lady with the If boo.
Neither has shown me any expertise area that I can respect.
Dr Perricone has - Dr D'Adamo has - the Drs Heller's have, Dr
Bernstein has - Dr Rozencwajg has (his book on drainage and
organotherapy etc) and some others. All this, tuned to me, tells me
what is right for ME to eat.
I take their expertise area in each case. The combined expertise is
great

Irene,

I'm trying to combine various approaches like you have. By following Monica Reinagel's Inflammation-Free Diet Plan, while still on Atkins, I've eliminated chicken and turkey, added more beef and pork, added salmon oil 1000mg (molecular distilled) with each meal, increased turmeric use especially on eggs. Basically making each meal anti-inflammatory. In one week, I feel much better. I even had a day of blood glucose readings of 115 then 96 but I attribute that single anomaly to starting a high dose of chromium GTF (glucose tolerance factor) which is food/yeast based, the form researched in diabetics vs. non-food forms like picolinate/polynicotinate.

Now, I want to further refine this using D'Adamo's blood type diet. Some of his recommendations for my type confirm what I already have experienced and are viewed as overall inflammatory on the Reinagel ratings which are on his AVOID list: chicken, wheat, banana, corn, sunflower/safflower oils, mango, seeds. The confusion comes in when trying to follow the majority of his suggestions, i.e.;

AVOID means acts like poison, HIGHLY BENEFICIAL means acts like medicine. I left out NEUTRAL foods, but sugar is one of them!

AVOID: beef, pork, butter, pepper, bacon, buffalo, ham, veal, horse(?), flounder, sole, lox, coconut, black beans, bean sprouts, tapioca, aloe, avocado, mushrooms (abalone, shiitake), black olives, all peppers, radish, sprouts, aloe, pomegranate, orange, almond, gelatin, pickles, coffee, soda, black tea.

HIGHLY BENEFICIAL: Turkey, salmon, tuna, yogurt, goat milk, eggs, cottage cheese, kefir, mozzarella, peanuts, soybeans, lentils, tofu, oatmeal/flour, rice cakes, rye (flour, bread, krisp), beets, broccoli, cucumber, eggplant, yam, maitake mushrooms, cherries, figs, grapes, grapefruit, plums, watermelon, green tea

The idea should be to focus on highly beneficial foods for your blood type. What has been your experience when strictly following his recommendations for your type? How do you handle a highly beneficial food that causes weakness/allergy, for me oats? He says his blood type diet helps regulate blood sugar. I don't have a problem following it for a few weeks and probably initially experiencing some higher blood sugar readings due to some of these higher carb recs if in the long run it can show efficaciousness. How long should I stick with it if I find it is not working?

Like Atkins, there is both plenty of controversy on his approach along with the benefit of years of patients' anecdotal and self-reported results. Unlike Atkins, D'Adamo is a naturopath, ND, being criticized by MD's and scientists whose consensus among dietitians, physicians, and nutritional scientists is that the theory is unsupported by scientific evidence. His blood type assertions and lectin research conclusions have been questioned and turned against him, forget Dr. Weil, but even from Weston Price Foundation with a reference to Sally Fallon, author of Nourishing Traditions among others. http://www.westonaprice.org/bookreviews/eat_right.html All this doesn't mean there is no validity to his approach, just no supportive research to claim it is a fully baked approach. Can you provide some reference links?

For example, he says my blood type produces less stomach acid so animal protein should be limited. Yet, his critics say as we age, we all produce less HCL not blood type specific. Many diabetics seem to have this problem more than non-diabetics. I've found this true later in life having no problem eating high animal protein most of my life, but now need enzymes, HCL since becoming diabetic. How can D'Adamo be sure on this? I should have had problems with animal proteins much earlier in life. He also says my type does well on grains except for wheat, not supported by my experience.

He does a great job of consistently defending himself on his website, http://www.dadamo.com/, to each allegation against him. Overall, his graphs show a 74% average self-reported health improvement among all blood types.

Susan
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, Irene de Villiers wrote:

Well, overall, but to be fair, he does discuss the issue, a little.
And his advice can reach upto 38 million AARP members plus he's fully vaccinated!

http://www.aarpmagazine.org/health/dr_d ... cines.html

Susan
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Ah - But one has to first make sure that the expertise is valid.
That used by Reinagel is not from HER research - it is her opinions
and thus not valid. In fact the opinions of those who DID do research
on inflammation (eg Perricone), contradict her assumptions. Her anti-
inflammation ideas are mixed up - some correct and others not, and no
rule to know which is which, so IMO no value.

Atkins at this point is plain out of date. "high protein" is all he
contributes realistically.

Pork is inflammatory......
Chicken, turkey and beef are fine if the blood type and/or genotype
indicates it. So much is individual.
The rest looks good. May be NET anti-inflammatory when added together.

Also use his genotype info. Sometimes they line up well - sometimes not.
I can tell we are not the same type:-)

I have to use common sense - for example mango is beneficial for me,
and banana is toxic, contrary to listed effects.
But overall it's a good fit.
I also have to adjust for the illness I have being catabolic.
Avoid it of course:-)
the food lists are a guide and ar based on "averages" - not
specifics. Read is as "On average" this food is good for that type.
Then go check the genotype lists - which often conflict a lot - and
choose a list of foods that yo know works for you. Or experiment if
unsure. This is new research and will no doubt be fie-tuned in time.
Also some reasons things were included or excluded may be different
for you as an individual - or you may have an allergy.
It may lower inflammation and thus have an indirect effect but other
than that he's not the expert on blood sugar and I get my blood sugar
ideas elsewhere. In fact his booklet for diabetics is a disaster and
based on ADA, not good research - and if you follow ADA diet you are
guaranteed to get sicker.
IMO - Do NOT use it for blood sugar.

Get rid of the sugar and starch to control blood sugar, and eat more
protein, fats and hi-antioxidant low-sugar foods - in many small meals.
Here are the kind of meals I like:
* 2 eggs, baked chicken leg, dandelion salad with lemon/EVOO, small
tapioca pudding.
* Slice roast turkey and some havarti cheese between multiple leaf
lettuce leaves, 3 fresh figs.
* Spinach/feta salad or spanakopita, grilled mixed veg (eggplant,
zucchini, red/yellow peppers, artichoke heart),meatballs, small skim
milk latte (no flavor added).
* Steamed garden veg (tomato, squash, dandelions, curry spices) with
1Tbsp rice bran and dollop of artichoke/spinach cheese spread turned
into "curry sauce" with the juice from the tomatoes - baked catfish
with thin spicy jalapeno/corn breading, 2 dark chocolate squares.
* Veg-Rice snaps with cheeses, snack before exercise.
* Walnuts and dried mango, snack before exercise.

But this suits me - note only that the carb load is not high, but it
is there.
I used to have a lot less carbs than this, but that was before I got
the diabetes controlled.
This keep[s my blood glucose under 110 at all times - the goal:-)
I take no interest in the opinions of others
I like to make my own, from first principles.
And many diabetics also produce too much acid:-)
It's what your system does that counts. Remember he gives the
majority effect - just because the majority of women are under 5 foot
10 does not mean I have to be:-)

Limiting animal protein because of acid issues is wrong IMO.
If your system can't make acid, there's a metabolic issue. To hide
from that by consuming too little protein is allopathic.
Yes?
I use about 74% of his info

Namaste,
Irene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

Actually, Dr. Weil is, or at least was, Sulphur. It was Sulphur that removed his esophageal spasm and showed him how powerful homeopathy could be.
Whatever you think of his present writings, I have to say that he did me a kindness many years ago when my son was diagnosed with IgA Nephropathy. Weil returned my phone call at 6 AM his time (9 AM my time) and advised me to pull my son off dairy and find a good homeopath. I balked at the first -- and wished I hadn't -- but heeded the second, and my son was cured of his "incurable" disease.
Peace,
Dale

Actually, Dr. Weil is, or at least was, Sulphur. It was Sulphur that removed his esophageal spasm and showed him how powerful homeopathy could be.
He does devote over 30 pages in Health and Healing, revised 2004, about homeopathy and his exposure to it. It obviously wasn't powerful enough of an experience because he questions his successful treatment might have been due to placebo effect or a condition that would have disappeared on its own. Maybe, he should have been told to take a regularly scheduled booster dose of Sulphur, the same way he keeps his vaccination schedule current,
Interesting reading, http://tinyurl.com/3gf2en by the original Dr. Weil before the $$$, fame, influence, maybe aurum fillings.
Susan
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