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Re: rubric help needed--compulsive washing in a cat

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:26 am
by Sarvadaman Oberoi
I really need to get a veterinary repertory one of these days--can anyone
recommend a good one?
I use RADAR's Veterinary Synthesis 9.1V. It is very useful though expensive, since you have to get the full RADAR program.

RADAR's Veterinary Synthesis at $200 is the ONLY software program specifically developed for the care and treatment of animals. In order to use this program, you need to have RADAR's Package #1 ("Essentials") which usually sells for $1, 195.00.
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Re: rubric help needed--compulsive washing in a cat

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:10 am
by Irene de Villiers
As a veterinary homeopath my advice is to use a people repertory and not
a so-called veterinary one.
The latter only restrict your choices. What we really need to do is use
a good people one - and enhance it with any new animal-related rubrics.
Radar is a good program for example - but I do not use "a veterinary
repertory" at all due to it being way too restrictive.

It's more important to be willing to convert animal rubrics to people
ones. For example if you have a broken tail, you may need to look at
spine, nerve, bone, tendon, ligament, skin etc rubrics, not tail
rubrics, if you see my point. You ALSO need to look at emotional rubrics
related to tail - for examlpe cats can't tolerate having no fur at the
tip of tail (and will likely chew their tail off there) and there will
be related (human repertory) mind symptoms such as anxiety, fear,
insecurity, irritation or whatever applies to the specific situation.

More importantly veterinary reps usually have VERY limited options
as they assume (incorrectly) that some rubrics can not be applied to
animals - and in fact that is the main reason they exist at all as
separate entities. I wish people would just upgrade the repertories we
have already where appropriate.

I made the same mistake many years ago. I actually went so far as to
highlight Kent and Boericke reps to show those rubrics that I felt were
potential animal ones. At the time I thought I was even "stretching it a
bit" but I did not want to omit anything that might remotely be useful.
Well how wrong I was. There is hardly a rubric that I did NOT highlight,
which has been left unused over the years. they ALL get used sooner or
later, and being restrictive in one's thinking there, is a big error!
The most seemingly impossible-for-animals rubrics are all used
eventually. Types of pain are seldom used - but their presence is still
relevant and now and then one sees what kind is involved. For example a
dog case had burning pain which I know because:
* the dog avoided things that burn during that illness; and
* the chosen remedy for burning pain worked.

So even the most unlikely sub-rubrics might one day be used - and
definitely far more WILL be used than one tends to think, from the human
repertory.

My point is that if you restrict yourself to an animal repertory you
will miss a LOT of correct remedies that need more detail in the
repertorizing to differentiate the right remedy. It's not worthwhile to
limit the options, because:

**** It only makes life *more* difficult - NOT easier!!! *****

You will have more failed cases and you will have a harder time finding
a good simillimum if you use a limited repertory.
So overall you will be a lot less successful.

Hence - stay with a full repertory like the people one from Radar or
other good software or books for *people*.
If the veterinary rubrics which folks want to add, can be *added* and
not seen as a separate repertory - then I'd be in favour of those
enhanced "people+animal integrated" repertories. But I do not advise use
of a "veterinary repertory" as such. Ever.

Namaste,
Irene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

Re: rubric help needed--compulsive washing in a cat

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:37 pm
by Luise Kunkle
Hi Cee,

well the reason I asked is that a cat of my acquaintance:-) had about
the same problem. She was always licking - not even enoughh to wear
down the fur (she was a Persian). I do not recall whether the skin
looked irritated.

The vet said that she had fleas and gave her anti-flea medication.

It worked.

Regards

Luise
--
One thought to all who, free of doubt,
So definitely know what's true:
2 and 2 is 22 -
and 2 times 2 is 2:-)
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Re: rubric help needed--compulsive washing in a cat

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:45 pm
by Tanya Marquette
i have Mccleod which i don't like to well. it is too
superficial but might be helpful in a pinch. Don Hamilton's
books have been real popular. but i use the Radar 9.1V for
much of my repertorizing.
tanya

Re: rubric help needed--compulsive washing in a cat

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:47 pm
by Tanya Marquette
but working with an animal communicator can give
you those details for a good case. i have gotten
so much info from the woman i use. i get sensations
and modalities. i have even gotten color preferences
for my cat. while not getting a diagnosis, i get so
much that we use for a homeopathic case. it is well
worth the time and expense, which isn't very much.
tanya

Re: rubric help needed--compulsive washing in a cat

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 5:48 pm
by Celia M. Malm
> It's more important to be willing to convert animal rubrics to people

It's more a matter of "able" than "willing," for me. I have a hard time
getting my mind around converting the rubrics to animals, although I do try.
Maybe you (or somebody) should write a book about applying human rubrics to
animals?
Unfortunately, I'm only a "mom" homeopath, not a professional one, so I
appreciate any "crutches" that help me limp along.
Cee

Re: rubric help needed--compulsive washing in a cat

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:21 pm
by Tanya Marquette
a number of years ago i brought a cat into a homeopathic
class to have her case taken. she hid the entire time, which
is not unusual for a cat in a strange place. but i gave
about 15 sx/characteristics. the class was surprised that
you could get so much from a cat. but it wasnt hard at all.
sometimes i have difficulty find the words to express what i
feel when i observe, but the signs and sx are always there.
you know some cats are real talkers and others you hardly
ever hear their voices. some like lots of cuddling and others
are content with a quick scratch on the head. some are big
drinkers and others never drink at all. etc, etc, etc.
then of course there are the sx that you cant see like
a stomach problem, but you will notice lack of appetite and
vomiting, or desire to eat but cant.
and then you have do the rubrics as normal.
does that help at all?
tanya

Re: rubric help needed--compulsive washing in a cat

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:09 pm
by Shannon Nelson
Hi Cee,
Actually we do that sort of "conversion" all the time, *outside* of
homeopathy; so doing it inside, is not such a great leap. One need is
to know what's *normal* for the species and for the animal, and use
that as your starting point. E.g. you might observe that your turtle
seems "restless", altho the degree of movement might barely qualify as
*conscious* in a member of another species. :-) But if he's moving
more than usual *for a turtle*, then one of your rubrics would be about
"restless".
other cats--then you could use rubrics relating to that. And so on...
Sometimes it is more tricky--and as noted, you can't ask the animal
whether it's an itch or just boredom that prompts licking; you can't
ask re qualify of a pain and so on, but you can get a lot from
observing, and thinking "laterally" (by analogy). Sometimes, at least.
Shannon

Re: rubric help needed--compulsive washing in a cat

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:40 am
by Celia M. Malm
> The vet said that she had fleas and gave her anti-flea medication.

That was the first thing we thought of, back when this started the first
time. But she didn't have fleas. When I first took her to the vet for it,
*he* thought for sure that she must have fleas, so he checked her for
fleas--nada. It's a good suggestion; it just wasn't the problem.

I gave her Nat.-m. yesterday. We'll see what happens.
Cee