[H] natural cold/flu remedies, was genus epidemicus- London Uk

[Shannon Nelson]

Well anything *can* cause trouble, in wrong amount or wrong
circumstance or wrong person. Can even have too much oxygen; too much
water. But we don't therefore insist that hydrotherapy should not be
used, and breathing should be approached with caution... If you
are trying to solve a problem (e.g. an acute disease), you have a
certain range of tools to choose from. Why do you find it strange to
think of including herbs in that tool chest? Given that such things
(e.g. ginger etc. for a cold) stand a *great* chance of providing
(greater or lesser degree of) comfort and aid to healing, and truly
miniscule chance of causing anything resembling harm... ??
Confused...
Shannon

[Teresa Kramer]

I’m not confused. I’m better! Cold is retreating and I’m sleeping well. Hurrah for H and a BIT of COOKING herbs! Teresa (Northern VA)
Well anything *can* cause trouble, in wrong amount or wrong
circumstance or wrong person….. Why do you find it strange to
think of including herbs in that tool chest? …
Confused...
Shannon
_,_._,___

[bty17859616]

Thanks for the recipe for coughs - these recipes are such help for those patients who
want to do something.
Talking of doing or not doing something, after 4 days in bed just before Christmas, with a
nasty dose of flu, which did not appear to be shifting one way or the other, I have to say
that a few doses of Eupatorium were definetely very welcome and quickly moved me out of
such a sorry state. I don't feel that any harm has been done. I believe that people have to
do what suits them best, what is the point of suffering for days when the illness appears
to be stuck? And of course, in my family of two adults, with no other help around, and
with my husband dutifully following on my flu, a few doses of Mercury Viv. helped him
greatly, otherwise we would have been very stuck indeed.
Happy New Year to all, Grace

--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, "Teresa Kramer" wrote:

[Tanya Marquette]

shannon,
my daughter began to use ginger mint tea and found
it very helpful with some cold sx. i found grating
fresh ginger into my green tea was soothing on the
chest sx. i did not peel the ginger though.
tanya

[Shannon Nelson]

Thanks Tanya--You're preaching to the choir! I adore ginger,
and a cold is merely one among many great "excuses" to eat or drink it.
Not that one needs any!
Gingerly yours,
Shannon

[Teresa Kramer]

I don’t peel ginger. I lived for 10 years on the island of Madagascar where we ate ginger daily as a condiment in virtually all dishes. It was tiny, knobby, VERY hot ginger and to peel it would have been worse than peeling grapes by a long shot. I would wash it well with a brush, scrape off a bit when I could, and leave most of the peel with no harm done, far as I can tell. With American huge, rather bland ginger I do the same, only I use a whole lot more! Could you please weigh in Hahnemannian who said it had to be peeled. We also drink a lot of Yogi brand ginger tea for the ease of it—when it is for pleasure, not for cold relief.

Teresa (Northern VA)

________________________________

From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tanya Marquette
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 11:37 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [H] natural cold/flu remedies, was [Minutus] genus epidemicus- London Uk
shannon,
my daughter began to use ginger mint tea and found

it very helpful with some cold sx. i found grating

fresh ginger into my green tea was soothing on the

chest sx. i did not peel the ginger though.
tanya

[muthu kumar]

IN our cooking we use a lot of ginger too and we peel it. But it is
not necessary.

The comments I made were in terms of using it as a medicine and not
as a condiment. There are many herbal preparations in Ayurveda and
Siddha that use ginger ( and other things). Each of these has a way
of cleaning before the substance can be used in medicines. I do not
know the explanation for these and probably the reasons are lost
over the years. In India the first explanation is to get rid of
infective organisms that are there.But the side effects that can be
caused by these medicines can be overcome by putting them thru
certain preparatory processes. Some of these -like boiling
Anacardium for making medicines- can cause serious side effects .
Tradition says that these be soaked in buffalo's milk ( and for more
effectiveness in diluted buggalo dung for a certain amount of time)
and then boil it. Gold, Silver, Mercury and even sulphur have such
cleansing associated with them. This is one of the reasons the same
combination of herbs etc. have different effects made from different
manufacturers. Lots of modern manufacturers of traditional ayurvedic
medicines do not follow the cleansing and preparations correctly.
In fact the herbs grown in land at least 30 miles away from sea is
supposed to be more potent than the one growing near coasts. So
there are guidelines in the preparation of different items for the
sake of using them in medicines. Sometimes over cleansing also
negates the therapeutic effects of medicines. So there are tests to
find out if the cleansing is good or not.
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, "Teresa Kramer"
wrote:
Madagascar where
tiny,
peeling
off a bit
I can
I use a
had to be
of it-when
Behalf Of
epidemicus-

[Luise Kunkle]

Hi H2,

in the right person, ANYTHING can cause disease.

All you write below, and a lot of other things I have heard over the
years and read on the lists may be interpreted as suppression - or may
not.

So many people get cancer of the colon that have never used any of the
herbs or whatever that have an affinity to the colon - and vice versa:
all those people who used them and never got any problem with it.

Of cause herbs can cause a proving: a lot of our proving symptoms
come from herbs taken as mother tinctures. This is one thing - to
interprete those results as "suppression" is another.

And the case you cite below...
This CAN be interpreted as suppression - it much more easily can be
seen as "previous symptoms coming back" -- the only part of Hering's
Rule that goes back to Hahnemann.

In any case, however, suppression by herbs - whether rightfully so or
not - is much easier to trace back to Hahnemann than suppression by
"diluted, potentized" remedies. After all: most of the "allopathic
remedies" at Hehnemann's times, i.e. those the stormed against, were
herbs. (That can easily be verified by looking at the cases on my site
- in the English part listed after "previously used" - on the German
parts easily identified by being listed just above the table).

Regards

Luise
--
One thought to all who, free of doubt,
So definitely know what's true:
2 and 2 is 22 -
and 2 times 2 is 2:-)
==========> ICQ yinyang 96391801 <==========

[Luise Kunkle]

Hi H,
This may be so - but obviously it did not keep H. from suggesting and
using them himself in acutes.

And the habit of hoemopaths to base their methods of using herbal
remedies and other methods in acutes or whatever on Hahnemann are
absurd. This is all I wanted to say - I have no opinion on the
appropriateness of doing so for other reasons.

Regards

Luise

--
One thought to all who, free of doubt,
So definitely know what's true:
2 and 2 is 22 -
and 2 times 2 is 2:-)
==========> ICQ yinyang 96391801 <==========

[muthu kumar]

I do not think that there is any harm doing them together. It was a
comment in the context of Luise's carefully worded post. Why would
Hahnemannians ( so who follow the law to the letter) would do such
combining etc.

When I catch cold - I do whatever possible to get out of it....
and that includes good chicken soup as well and I use a herb
called Lo Han Ko ( did I spell it right?) baby melons I get from
Chinese grocers - if I have throat symptoms. A decoction from that
is one of the best I have seen for aborting a cold with throat
symptoms.

When in India we use a paste of honey with slaked lime pasted in the
throat -

For head cold a paste of turmeric applied to forehead works wonders.

And I have still to find a better medicine than drinking crushed
cumin seeds with a touch of salt in some water for viral diarrheas.
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, Robert & Shannon Nelson
wrote:
much
be
you
to
things
truly
sit
the
appear
himself
acutes
food
this
or
well...