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Re: [H] meat-centered diet, was Researching Fungus Fungi
Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 12:54 am
by Jeff
Tanya wheat is a major problem, it has to do with certain proteins and gluten intolerance and what it causes. You can look up celiac disease lots of information, also Mayo Clinic has information on this and how to fight it.
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Jeff Frankel
10360 Pine Lakes Blvd
North Fort Myers, Fl 33903
239-731-2655
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Re: [H] meat-centered diet, was Researching Fungus Fungi
Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 1:04 am
by Tanya Marquette
yes, i know, it is an inflammatory in the human body.
this is why it is eliminated in the diets of mercola and
people who subscribe to his type of thinking
tanya
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Re: [H] meat-centered diet, was Researching Fungus Fungi
Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 1:10 am
by Jeff
There is fungus on corn, but there is also fungus on grass that cattle feed on it just the part of life. Everything gets passed to us eventually.
http://msucares.com/newsletters/agronom ... 99809.html
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Jeff Frankel
10360 Pine Lakes Blvd
North Fort Myers, Fl 33903
239-731-2655
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Re: [H] meat-centered diet, was Researching Fungus Fungi
Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 12:18 pm
by healthinfo6
Dr. Atkins wasn't off-base. His original Dr. Atkins' Diet Revolution
was published in the mid 1970's, well before anyone knew or cared about
corn vs. grass fed. If you can afford grass fed and can stomach the
nasty taste, you can use it on the Atkins' Diet. Just add lots of mayo,
blue cheese or bearnaise sauce to give it some flavor.
--- In
minutus@yahoogroups.com, "Teresa Kramer"
wrote:
they
corn.
Re: [H] meat-centered diet, was Researching Fungus Fungi
Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 12:23 pm
by Jeff
Isn't Adkins dead, I am a person that has weighed at least 350 lbs., I now way 145 lbs. if I am lucky. I did this by balancing nutritional issues. I have pictures from 320 lbs. to 185 lbs. but I am lower now.
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Jeff Frankel
10360 Pine Lakes Blvd
North Fort Myers, Fl 33903
239-731-2655
http://www.msprotocols.com/
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Re: [H] meat-centered diet, was Researching Fungus Fungi
Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:48 pm
by Teresa Kramer
Ordering off the internet, i.e., direct from the farm with no middlemen to speak of, the meat and milk prices are lower than Whole Foods, in our area anyway. If anyone wants to email me, I will be happy to share the address for the internet site I use, which I think brokers deliveries in many East Coast areas.
AND there is very little packaging material on the meat which of course arrives frozen in a big truck. A plus for the environment--just a little one of course next to supporting an organic farmer. I assume that a CSA arrangement is even better, maybe offering fresh instead of frozen meat, but I don’t know of one that would be as convenient for me. I used to buy (with considerable embarrassment because of the environmental costs) a little bit of grass-fed meat from Australia at Trader Joe’s. That had to be flown here and costs about the same in $! Teresa
If you can afford grass fed
Re: [H] meat-centered diet, was Researching Fungus Fungi
Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:13 pm
by Teresa Kramer
Hi Teresa? You meant that "*corn* was first used to feed beef cattle...".

YES! Sorry, list, and thank you, Shannon. t
Below:
. Did you know that meat [OUCH! CORN—“Indian” corn, our US environment-destroying corn! SORRY! t] was first used to feed beef in the 30s, I think it was, and the marbled, tender, relatively inexpensive meat that resulted made the meat-raising industry switch over to corn very rapidly. (horrible for the environment, as presently raised by agro-business in the US)
Re: [H] meat-centered diet, was Researching Fungus Fungi
Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:39 pm
by Shannon Nelson
And if one lives in a farming or rural area, sometimes you find people
who raise a steer or two and look for a few people to buy a quarter or
half, which *really* brings the price down! But I agree--supporting
those who are trying to actually make a living from it is another huge
factor to consider. They (and organic farmers in general) are
competing with a price structure geared toward huge factory farms, and
it can be a tough go! Sometimes price has to be a major consideration
(like if cash is short), but think very carefully before letting it be
the *major* consideration. We need to become more and more aware of
just what our dollars are buying us: sustainability and harmonious
existence, or "something different". Sometimes it *does* cost more to
do things right! And sometimes that added cost is very much worth it.
Shannon
Re: [H] meat-centered diet, was Researching Fungus Fungi
Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:49 pm
by Shannon Nelson
PS--At least this is the situation in the US, the preponderance (and
favored by the tax system) of huge factory farms. (e.g. dairy farms of
300 to 3,000 cows, and increasing presence of "roundup-ready" soy,
which can thrive happily through repeated sprayings with herbicide)
Perhaps this has not yet happened in other countries?
Shannon
Re: [H] meat-centered diet, was Researching Fungus Fungi
Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 11:04 pm
by Tanya Marquette
perhaps you are not aware of a movement usually referred
to as "eat local." it encourages people to learn about
the local growers and producers whose farms can be visited
and thus one gets to know exactly where their food comes
from and how it is grown. this also supports small local
producers. i, fortunately, live in area with several
small organic farms and several csa's. we have a successful
organic food coop about 15 miles from me and i am working
on developing a local food coop based on local producers
and organics. for meat eaters, there is a local beef farm
supporting grass fed and organic beef.
but even if not living in a farming community, people can
begin to form buying clubs very easily which offers the
opportunity to select distributors and food quality for
your own group.
tanya