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Re: cushing syndrome?@Irene

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 11:12 am
by Sheri Nakken
Where is such way of treating found in the organon?
sarcodes used this way?

The treatment for Hashimoto's or any other condition is to take the case,
determine the ONE remedy from the symptom picture, determine the correct
dosage and potency according to the person's sensitivity.
Sheri
different in different cases.
cause(s) of auto immune disorder, ie abuse of steroids, thimeralis in
vaccine- possibly crossing blood brain barrier, other vaccine immune
mechanism related auto immunity issues, radiation, chemotherapy, genetic
causes etc.
sarcode may be tried and if successful, the cure is completed by moving on
to the constitutional treatment.
has good potential for auto immune disorders related to abuse of steroids,
like wise the gland / hormone(s) identified / deduced may be related to a
particular type of auto immune disorder(s) which will need to be
identified. Services of a trained immunologist or/ and an endocrinologist
would be a great help.
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Re: cushing syndrome?@Irene

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 11:38 am
by Jean Doherty
Thanks for response. The Endocrinologist here put her on Thyroxine without any more investigation than what I had done. We complied as a very important adventure for her could not be compromised. and permission to participate would have been withdrawn if advice was not followed. Her presentation was fatigue . The only thing I can find apart from moderate stress is that her Mother had similar autoimmune problem . I suspect her constitutional is Tuberculin but it seems reasonable to use other supportive measures as she did not respond to 3 doses of 200c. I suppose I ought to research Mother's history more Thanks again Jean

Re: cushing syndrome?@Irene

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 1:37 pm
by Sheri Nakken
At 07:37 PM 5/3/2007 +1000, you wrote:

Maybe 200c is too large
Maybe not the right remedy
Maybe try in water at a lower potency?
Sheri
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Re: cushing syndrome?@Irene

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 5:00 pm
by Luise Kunkle
Hi Jean,

I think the chances of curing hypothyroidism - no matter what kind -
will depend on the amount of thyroid tissue having been destroyed.

AFAIK Hashimoto has a change from hypo- to hyperthyroidism in its
early and middle stages. While this is quite distressful, on the other
hand it shows that enough tissue is still there that the thyroid "can"
produce properly. At that stage the chances for cure may be good, if
you can stop the autoimmune process. Whether the latter has been done
(verified by the lab markers) by homeopathy I do not know - but would
be interested to find out.

Once the hyperthyroid symptoms cease and only those of the hypothyroid
condition are left, the chances of cure are negligible, IMO. The
latter also applies to non-Hashimoto autoimmune thyroiditis. This is
sneaky - it does not show definite symptoms, except the vague ones
like tiredness that H. already did not think to be of much value. By
the time these really get severe enough to give a hint, the matter is
probably irreversible.

Just as with diabetes Type I. Some occur very fast - and the
probablity is high that the insular cells are not destroyed but
"paralysed", non functioning. It stands to reason that there
homeopathy has a good chance.

The diabetes Type I with a more sneaky onset is probably caused by
autoimmune disease. There again it is very rare that the patient will
come to a homeopath with good symptoms before too much tissue is
destroyed to allow cure.

IMO.

Regards

Luise
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Re: cushing syndrome?@Irene

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 5:39 pm
by Luise Kunkle
Since Hahnemann did not know anything about endocrinology, about the
functions and feedbacks of the glands etc, he could hardly have
considered sarcodes in his Organon:-))

Regards

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Re: cushing syndrome?@Irene

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 5:50 pm
by Joy Lucas
whether he 'knew' about glands or not the point is that he would have decried the notion of using 'brain' 30c if the brain is dysfunctional or 'skin' 30c if the skin is dysfunctional or 'nose' 30c if the nose is dysfunction or 'tongue in cheek' 30c when the discussion goes awry.

I think you know perfectly well what Sheri is meaning.

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Re: cushing syndrome?@Irene

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 5:54 pm
by robin9168
FWIW I have never had a significant result treating Hashimotos which
always suprised me as I feel it should be amenable to treatment. I had
a good go at it too as 2 of them didnt want to go the doctor route. I
also know a couple of good homeopaths who were grateful for
conventional treatment for this condition in themselves. Unfortunate
but true. I recall reading a promising case reoprt in a journal but
cant remember which one. Good luck.

Re: cushing syndrome?@Irene

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 8:08 pm
by Shannon Nelson
Hi Robin,
Do you know whether the approach(es) tried were constitutional and/or
sarcodes and/or any other?
Thanks,
Shannon

Re: cushing syndrome?@Irene

Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 1:30 am
by Jean Doherty
I suppose one could surmise the provings of Cortisone from its side effects one of which is a certain euphoria as well as the hallmarks of Cushing's, Very interesting , Jean

Re: cushing syndrome?@Irene

Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 8:40 am
by Irene de Villiers
Jean Doherty wrote:

It's not necessary to surmise - there is a proving - it's listed in O A
Julian's repertory.
Euphoria according to?????
(Anything but!)
That's not one I've seen among the couple hundred cushings sufferers on
my Cushings support group list.
The responses to high cortisol are exaggerated but not euphoric -
there's a difference.
There will be tears triggered by far less of a trigger than normal - and
excitement (but not euphoria) triggered also by far less of a trigger
than normal - a doorbell or phone ringing. Either the depression extreme
or the high anxiety excitement extreme can be triggered by relatively
small things - cortisol causes an extreme version of the normal response
to stimuli.
The depression extreme is triggered by the extreme tiredness and
lack of energy - due to the extreme effort needed just to exist at all.
Cortisol uses up a great deal of oxygen, breaks down tissues, leaves
the individual exhausted in a very intense way, every muscle, every
fiber is achingly tired. Just getting up from sitting takes immense
energy and effort for example. Walking across a room can make the person
ready to fall over and collapse from lack of breath and exhaustion.
The excitement extreme feels the way one feels after getting huge
fright (and indeed can trigger heart attacks) but is triggered by
relatively small things - and can escalate very easily if any kind of
stressful situation can not be escaped and avoided immediately and the
use of calming techniques used. This stress situation then can trigger
even more over-reaction - including yelling and crying in frustration
for example.

Neither extreme is any fun!
It's not euphoric!

NAmaste,
IRene
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