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Re: help with rubric

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 6:32 am
by Jean Doherty
Think should await others comments.
If look up Interhomeopathy online journal and search for articles in the series, and Google Scholten and the Lanthanides you will find some background. There is a link to Interhomeopathy from my Google search at the bottom of first page. It could be from what you say a Sulphate of say Cerium ??/ europium which he describes as a smart Alec but this person not really smart though would like to be and as I read my notes Europium could be smart. It was just a thought and Joy might exhibit some of her valuable insights, Jean

Re: help with rubric

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 6:34 am
by Jean Doherty
Thinking more about this over chores and your last mail where this person seemed quite willing to deceive people with wrong information sounded more like ? thuja.
The lanthanides like to give others {is this correct] autonomy as well as having it themselves. This would not embrace a tendency to deceive. Gosh ones mind does go round in circles!!! Jean

Re: help with rubric

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 6:42 am
by Jean Doherty
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Re: help with rubric

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:41 am
by Irene de Villiers
McPhee Family wrote:
capturing this. Person reports feeling overly anxious about all she has

Hi,
A LOT - nearly all - of this is pure typical cushing's syndrome -
namely high cortisol probably from tumours (unless she is on high
prednisone). It damages the thymus and is VERY hard to work with in
homeopathy. (Obviously I can't make a diagnosis here - but I manage a
cushings email support list and the symptoms stick me in the eye.....)

If it helps, I can suggest based on the couple hundred cases on my list,
which symptoms are less universal cushings symptoms and more individual
specific ones here. I think the more individual ones would be most
relevant towards important rubrics - and that a general view of this may
help you in finding out more of what you need for the case:

McPhee Family wrote:
to do

typical for all cushings sufferers - and it is an intense anxiety - can
be overwhelming (without understanding why it is even there)
.....this response is individual, the not doing anything - though a
fear-paralysis is typical.
A problem is that with high cortisol if one DOES do anything the
syndrome gets worse fast, as cortisol is the hormone to get you to run
from the tiger to the cave and doing tasks or any kind of concentration
at all, is no way to achieve that so there is a built in mechanism to
stop it.
Check whether she can read a fiction book - follow a complex movie,
or anything else that takes concentrated time with attention in one
place.... even long phone conversations are hard for many - just a
doorbell ringing (or letter arriving or whatever) can initiate anxiety.



Feeling overwhelmed all the time is typical and aggravates the anxiety.
The person with cushings will FEEL very busy and in truth is trying to
be active and busy but cannot do it and feels bad for accomplishing
"nothing" and does not realize how slow they are at achieving anything.
Initially they may be fired for being slow, but think they were working
flat-out for example. The real reason is a combination of anxiety about
everything (without knowing why) and a lack of energy. Later you see it
is difficult to stand, they are out of breath etc.
She does do *something* - even though it is typical i Cushiongs to think
you get nothing done. The thinking is very negative. Ask her to describe
a typical day in her life - what she DOES do all day - so YOU can get a
feel for it - she won't be able to.

Typical cushings has anxiety about being overwhelmed (and constantly
feels that way) , and anxiety about not completing a to do list - (but
makes it as they WANT to accomplish things) but does not realize how
long a normal thing takes them to do - and they are distracted due to
lack of short term memory and lack of ability to concentrate attention -
so they are side-tracked into doing something other than they had in
mind. Teh7 may sit down to do A and an hour later try to rememebr (after
doing B ) what they sat down to do- rememebr perhaps - and then feel
total frustratioj that they "did nothing" - meaning nothing that was
planned.
Suggest you probe gently to get a better understanding of her feelings
and situation, as she likely has no clear ability to describe it.



All cushings symptoms. Cortisol breaks down muscle and turns it to sugar
- then dumps it as central fat. (1 lb of muscle turns to 5 or 6 lbs fat
and makes the person weak and short of oxygen.) Hence the thin limbs and
big abdomen.
Often there is a fatty hump/lump somewhere on the back as well, skin
tags round the bra line, stretch marks, thinning hair where you want it
- and SOMETIMES hair where you don't want it.
Erica, this looks like classic cushing's syndrome - everything you say
fits it. It's a very serious condition but extremely difficult to
understand as the symptoms are body-wide, hard to explain, and people
who have it may (erroneously) easily be considered fat and lazy.

Not sure if you are interested in a diagnostic confirmation but if so
the "gold standard" test is a 24-hr Urine cortisol measurement. (Saliva
cortisol and spot blood cortisol are useless.)
If confirmed I'd NOT go for the next test the allopaths like -
dexamethozone suppression test - as it aggravates the conditon. They use
it to tell if tumours producing cortisol are from adrenal
(overproduction of cortisol in adrenal gland) or pituitary origin (ACTH
overproduced, which then triggers cortisol) - but you can use O A
Julian's repertory to do that instead - the ACTH proving will fit pit
tumours and the Cortisol proving will fit adrenal cushings. And anyway
the test misses other forms of cushings altogether.

Also know that this disease (if present - it just LOOKS obvious to me)
does body wide damage. For example it raises insulin, causing insulin
resistance and diabetes to follow; it blocks fat metabolism causing
increase in cholesterol production and all that this means; it has a 50%
cancer rate; it changes the thyroid hormones to LOOK normal but the T3
produced is actually not active T4 but reverse T3 - so there are
hypothyroid symptoms with "normal" T3 test results (unless they check
for active - and you get a T3-uptake test which shows HIGH if active T3
is low.); it causes enlarged weak heart and/or angina; and can cause
serious kidney damage. The list of damage from cortisol goes on an on.
This is SMALL sampling of what it does.

So I hope you are not up against such a complex case, but I strongly
suspect it.
And if so - homeopathy is the way to go, but it helps to have the
allopathic tests on what is damaged at each stage and it helps to
pre-empt damage if possible.

Hope this helps somehow.
If you want more info on cushings, please feel fre to join my email
support group list at
cushings-friends@yahoogroups.com
There are discussions on aspects of this illness, the various forms,
issues and on supplements that help.
Supplements and diet are essential elements IMO - to support a simillimum.

Namaste,
IRene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

Re: help with rubric

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 4:48 pm
by ELM
Thanks Jean,
I will look that up. I appreciate the info. She actually
characterized her husband as a "smart alec" during the interview!!
Truly,
Erica

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Re: help with rubric

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 5:01 pm
by ELM
Jean, Interesting. I was thinking thuja as well at some point. Also
a family history of severe vaccine reactions.

However, she doesn't spend much time on appearance and doesn't care
much about fitting in and she pretty much speaks her mind. Although
you're right because once she realizes the other person is not
backing down, she argues in agreement with that person as if that is
what she was saying all along! A-ha! And there is definitely a fear
of losing control.

So much of the rest fits. I will definitely revisit that. Thanks for
taking time to think on it!!!!
Truly,
Erica

P.S. I just called her to ask if she had any vaccine reactions
specifically which she could recall. She said she remembers in grade
school lining up to take a sugar cube for polio vaccine. She said
later that year she was home from school for 6 weeks straight with
several different illnesses.
I have read there is a possible connection to the polio vaccine
and "learning disabilities and ADD" like behaviors. Interesting!
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Re: help with rubric

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 5:35 pm
by ELM
Irene,
Wow... you are correct. Yes to all, severe kyphosis, skin tags
around bra line, severe stretch marks - although *extremely* thick
hair. She has had the usual tests for hypothyroid - all "normal."
She was extremely thin (size 0 in 1967) but large chested. After her
2nd child, she developed the large abdomen and has had it since
unable to lose weight.

Hmmm... OK, now I am at a loss because I am not experienced enough
to treat this depth of pathology. I may have to refer her to someone
else. Bummer.

Thank you very much for taking the time to contribute this valuable
information. I will definitely join your group.
Truly,
Erica
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Re: help with rubric

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 7:40 pm
by Joy Lucas
Hello Erica, I'm curious, just a few questions if you have time

can you say more about her learning difficulties

which ovary was involved, i.e. left or right

I know you described her build and appearance but did you mention her height

It is always imperative that you try to understand any underlying pathology within a case, it is part of what helps to define what needs to be cured and although we don't treat disease names it is good practice to know what sx are common to any named disease and how the named disease might progress if left untreated.

However even common sx within a named disease can dominate a case to such a degree that they become high ranking sx - after all, the vital force is an excellent individualised messenger and it could be wrong to diminish common sx sometimes - everyone is different and that is a key point to remember - thus ranking and grading sx according to the individual is paramount, we would do this with every case however difficult or simple the case might seem. So don't let a disease name put you off, Alzheimers, Cushing's what the heck go for it, maybe work with another homeopath who is close by so you can be supervised or at least share the load. There is no real reason why this case should be that difficult at all.

It is also very interesting what you have written about possible vaccine damage within the case, could even be the cause of this. Hopefully Sheri will pick up on these posts and if not you should check out her vaccine pages - here is her info

Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Classical Homeopath
Well Within & Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours (worldwide)
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and thanks for sharing all this with us. Joy

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Re: help with rubric

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 3:57 am
by Irene de Villiers
ELM wrote:

Hi Erica,
I'm sorry it seems to be correct, it's an unkind illness. The thick
hair suggests the source is ACTH (often involves some hirsuitism as
well). ACTH is usually from pituitary tumours (as opposed to having thin
hair from cortisol via adrenals or carcinoids).
The homeopathy is essentially the same in principle though. And
compassionate support is a HUGE need in this illness as it is very
little understood among the medical profession members; usually the
patient has to educate the doctor - including the endocrinologists.
The allopathic approach is to try to remove the "offending" tumour.
Sometimes the results are liveable - but often it just returns.
(No surprise there when the cause has not been addressed.) And brain
surgery on the pituitary has nasty risks - leaking spinal fluid as a
complication etc.

She may want to get a formal diagnosis and feel better with knowing what
is causing her symptoms - and the decision as to how to handle it is
separate from diagnosis. (One can leave after diagnosis "for a second
opinion"....)
She's welcome to join my list for diet and supplement advice - there's
lots there and it is VERY relevant.
You're welcome - it's typical for people with this dastardly syndrome to
go undiagnosed for years while being considered "lazy fat folks" and not
getting the emotional and dietary support etc really needed.
The cortisol plays with the head...makes it all fuzzyheaded, and the
response to outside stimuli is extreme - crying for nothing, and even
shouting for nothing being possible responses when under stress; or even
excessive crying with a "moving" movie. Cortisol exaggerates the
responses felt.
Trying to find ways to dissipate the daily production of cortisol so it
does not build up over time - is really helpful (and essential).

Namaste,
IRene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

Re: help with rubric

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 4:09 am
by Jean Doherty
Wonder how long she has had this mental state. Has she ever been different?/ If so then there may be some medical state, Jean