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Re: bowel nosodes

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2002 4:48 am
by ehc
yes, I found that also, thanks for your help Joy.

Beverly

Re: bowel nosodes

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2002 6:21 am
by Sharon Goos
I am interested in learning more about the bowel nosodes. Can someone direct me to a good book or information, maybe on the internet, that I can read? Thanks
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Re: bowel nosodes

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2002 2:38 pm
by Joy Lucas
Dear Sharon, would you like me to re-post my write up of the bowel nosodes
which I sent to the group some months ago?

Best wishes, Joy
on 9/15/02 1:34 PM, Joy Lucas at joylucas_speaktv@hotmail.com wrote:

Re: bowel nosodes

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2002 3:23 pm
by Tanya Marquette
i would like to see your post again, too

tanya

Re: bowel nosodes

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2002 5:03 pm
by Donna Earnest
I must have missed it also.
Donna

Re: bowel nosodes

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2002 5:33 pm
by Joy Lucas
For those of you who are interested in the bowel nosodes I offer the
following:-

They are prepared from cultures of non-lactose fermenting flora of the
intestinal tract. First isolated in 1880 by a bacteriologist - Eberth. Bach
did much work on them from a homeopathic point of view. Started to prepare
vaccines from dead cultures and treating patients with injections. In 1919
he joined the London Homeopathic Hospital as a bacteriologist and started
potentising bacteria a year later. I think some provings were carried out in
1929 and then he concentrated on the Flower Rx. In 1928 Elisabeth and John
Patterson did much work on the nosodes and did a protracted programme of
provings and clinical trials.

Morgan (pure) = Patterson; Morgan Gaertner = Patterson; Gaertner = Bach;
Proteus = Bach; Dysentry Compound = Bach; Sycotic Compound = Patterson;
Mutabile = Bach; Faecalis = Bach; Baccilus No. 7 and 10 = Patterson.

These are deep acting remedies from the highest mental to the lowest
physical. They can be used at any time IF THE PICTURE FITS.

Where there is a group of remedies indicated but no clear picture of any -
if the group of remedies is related to a bowel nosode than that nosode can
be given to help clarify the picture. Can also be given when the indicated
remedy fails - they may unblock.

Bowel nosodes can take up to 3 months before they take full effect. After
4-6 weeks the picture should start to get clearer. It is generally thought
that you do not prescribe another bowel nosode or repeat within 3 months.
They can be prescribed sometimes specifically for antibiotic poisoning
(Gaertner + Morgan), skin drugs will need Morgan, digestive drugs will need
Proteus.

They are not often used under 30c although Patterson used 6. It is
considered that 30 and 200 are the best potencies to use. In children it is
best not to go above 30, unless you have a good reason to, on the first
prescription.

There is a wonderful little book called A Treatise On Bowel Nosodes, by Dr
V. R. Agrawal (1981) - it might still be available especially from Indian
book publishers.

BACILLUS No. 7

Looks dark, pale, puffy, heavy closed eyelids, tense and tired, mental
fatigue, unfit for any mental effort = physical exhaustion, even the thought
of it, Angio-neurotic oedema, retinal bleeding, catarrhal deafness,
tonsillitis and quinsy, asthma, bronchial catarrh, tough sticky mucous which
is difficult to raise, heat and rest eating, distension, heartburn, nausea morning on waking,
acrid vomiting, thirst > cold drinks but lying down, wakes
at midnight-1 am with acute stomach pain > vomiting, duodenal ulcers,
palpitations with fears, valvular heart disease, menses irregular, morning
diarrhoea with burning, diarrhoea and constipation alternate, bruises and
bleeds easily, has trouble sleeping, sudden shock whilst sleeping, herpes
and scaly eruptions, flat warts, gummy discharge, dry brittle hair, cold and
chilly > warmth, > air and space, perspire easily, vomiting,
not much appetite but has to eat at 11 am, varicose veins, haemorrhoids,
easy brusing, fingers swollen, arms puffy and stiff, pain in soles of feet,
urine corrosive and contains sugar, fibroid and uterine polyps, thickening
skin with deep cracks, bleeding and moist eczema eructations flatus and moving about, desires sweets salt eggs meat
hot food, averse to fat eggs meat, flatulent indigestion excessive
eructations, sourness, vomiting after food, duodenal ulcers, distended
feeling, pain right and left hypochondria and epigastrium, pain in gall
bladder, right sided rheumatics, renal colic, irritable before menses,
constipation - stool is hard and dry, itching painful piles, cannot sleep
but drowsy after food, night terrors - shouts in sleep, many skin eruptions
- psoriasis vesicles warts urticaria shingles, everything eating, digestive Sx secondary to nervous Sx, hands feel dead and burn
at night, contraction of palms and fingers, cramps in calves, feet feel
frozen, burning urethra, constipation s.a.i. ball in bowel, very itchy
piles, sensitive skin - boils and herpes. Associated remedies = Amm. Mur;
Aur. Mur; Apis; Bar. Mur; Borax; Conium; Cup. Met; Calc. Mur; Ferr. Mur;
Ign; Kali. Mur; Mag. Mur; Nat. Mur; Secale.

SYC. CO

Keynotes is irritability. Sallow puffy greasy skin, nervous, tense, cross,
restless, sensitive to cold, bites nails, outbursts of temper, fear of dark
and being left alone, fear of animals and dogs, infected sinus and mininges,
persistent H/A every week, H/A left side lasts for weeks, throbbings > heat
and rest < noise, H/A < menses, sweating of head at night, premature grey
hair, face is puffy in the morning, malignant growth right cheek, eyes
inflamed, deafness and excessive formation of wax, lots of nasal and post
nasal catarrh, cracks around mouth, deep ulcers on tongue, external goitre,
enlarged adenoids and tonsils, profuse mucous in throat in morning, asthma <
damp, cough < 2-3 am, hard cough 2/4/6 am, croupy coughs, averse to eggs fat
milk cream salt sugar veg tea vinegar cheese meat, << egg = nausea, << fat
onions oranges, desires butter fat cheese sweets milk salt, finicky
appetite, acid flatulence, chronic irritation of whole alimentary canal,
ankles swollen and stiff, feet restless at night in bed, uterine polyps,
malignancy, impotency, pain left ovary at menses, has to stool on rising,
restless sleep, night terrors, night perspiration < 12-4 am, wakes 2-3 am,
dreams of dead bodies, catarrhs in all forms anywhere. Associated remedies =
Antim. Tart; Ferrum Met; Nat. Sulph; Rhus. Tox; Thuja; Bacill.

There is not much information on Mutabile; Cocci; or Faecalis but the
associated remedies are thus:- MUTABILE = Ferrum Phos; Kali Sulph; Puls.
COCCI = Tub; Baccill. FAECALIS = Sepia.
If anyone has any illustrative cases of the Bowel Nosodes I am sure we would
be interested to read them.

Best wishes, Joy Lucas RSHom.

Re: bowel nosodes

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2002 5:54 pm
by Usha Passi
Could you please re-post that write up as I am new here and would like
to see it!

Thank You, Usha

Re: bowel nosodes

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2002 5:28 am
by Jean Doherty
Yes Please Jean