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Fran Sheffield
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Re: Newborn - @ Chris G.

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Dear Chris (and Sheri),
I don't know how you and I can read the same material and come up with such
different impressions! I have made some comments below.

[snip]

Thanks Andy, there have been long debates in Australia for many years
concerning the judiciousness of Isaac Golden's work
In the past, some of those debates were justified but not now. Since the
conclusion and presentation of Isaac's research many of the concerns that
fuelled those debates have been put to bed. For example, one concern was
that potencies given to infants for protection rather than treatment may
cause disruption to their Vital Force. The results of the Golden's research
indicate that they do not - something that has also been noted for 200 years
in clinical practice. On the contrary, vitality seems to be strengthened by
these exposures. While homeopaths in this country may differ philosophically
about homeoprophylaxis some of the old concerns are no longer valid and only
aired speculatively by those unfamiliar with the research.
and I already have
relatively up-to-date info at my fingertips. I was really asking you what it
was that convinced you about the accuracy of Isaac Golden's statistics,
since you placed him in the same paragraph as such notable experimenters and
researchers, Hering, Allen, Saine etc.
And not such a bad thing to do. He has certainly done the hard yards of
research in the face of stiff opposition and contributed significantly to
our knowledge of prophylaxis
It seems instead you're willing to
take the results of Golden's work at face value, which is not a criticism
from me, since I often do the same thing unless instinct sets off alarm
bells. After instinct comes methodical examination. I don't really think
Golden's version of Homoeopathic Prophylaxis (he doesn't refer to it as
"isopathic" treatment) is comparable with standard use of HP, the latter
being used to such great effect, historically and currently, in short term
epidemics of infectious disease.

Golden's version of HP recommends an alternative to regular vaccination
programs in which a series of up to 10 different nosodes can be administered
in the first few years of life starting with Pertussin 200C when the infant
is only one month old, and repeated in a triple dose, in a 24 hour period,
at two months of age. It is up to the parent to decide which nosological
cover of protection in the the so-called HP protocol they want their child
to receive. Golden promises a long term effectiveness rate similar to, or
better than Allopathic vaccination.
Golden makes no such promise. I think you must be referring to his
statements about the data he analysed during his research. That claim was
accurate for that data. There is a big difference in his statements
retrospectively about the data analysed and predictive statements you claim
he has made.
Consequently, he has been warned by
authorities, and also the Therapeutic Goods Administration which governs our
accessibility to all Homoeopathic medicines in Australia about false and
dangerous advertising.
Again, this statement is inaccurate and misleading. Golden has not been
convicted or even charged with "false or misleading advertising". Each
attempt to vilify him by government authorities has been dismissed by the
investigating bodies on the basis that he has "no case to answer".
He has been stopped from providing prophylactics outside his home state of
Victoria by the threat of a $28,000 fine on each breach. While the legal
advice has been that this restriction could probably be contested
successfully in a court of law, Golden does not have the financial
where-with-all to do it and so has had to comply with this restriction. The
restriction had nothing to do with him making false claims or misleading
advertising but more to do with the government using a loophole within the
Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) act to stop him providing
prophylactics.
Unlike standard homeopathics, nosodes, being from animal/human disease
products, have not been tested for safety and registered with the TGA the
way conventional medicines prepared from animal or human products have been
required to. To do so would cost tens of thousands of dollars for each
nosode which the Australian homeopathic community and pharmacies cannot
afford especially when the nosodes could not be patented in the manner or
conventional drugs to recoup costs at completion. While we know potentised
high dilutions makes the nosodes safe and that there has never been a
reported case of disease transmission via a potentised nosode, this counts
for nothing with the TGA. The fact that the nosodes have not been tested and
registered in the manner required for other human/animal products has
allowed the government to threaten Golden with fines for any breach. The TGA
know that nosodes are being used by the wider homeopathic community but so
far have turned a blind eye to this.
In my view it would be a tragedy if our access to
valuable nosodes was legally restricted because of this so-called HP
alternative to immunization.
Our access to nosodes is indeed under threat - legislation is currently in
place to stop their use and it can be applied at whim at any time whether
nosodes are being used for prophylaxis or disease treatment. To creep around
on tip-toes so that we do not upset "them" is not the best way to go. The
only long-term protection we and the nosodes will have should homeopathy
become a greater threat to conventional medicine is if the non-homeopathic
community becomes more aware of their irreplaceable benefits and stands up
to demand their protection and funded research should they be threatened.
Any benefactors out there? Please see the link to The Do No Harm Initiative
in my signature line.
The 10M imprint of the artificial nosological disease purportedly
gives 5 to 10 years of maximum protection from that 'named' disease. This is
Golden's "educated guess".
Where did you get these "length of protection" figures from? I do not recall
Golden claiming these, even as an "educated guess." He does refer to
Diphtheria studies that show a negative Schick test some ten years after
exposure but also says a lack of studies generally in the area prophylactics
means that claims cannot be made. Also, who has said anything about
imprinting a nosological disease? Nobody wants to do that and nor is there
any evidence over the last 200 years that this has ever happened with the
appropriate use of prophylactics.
If this protocol seems a bit alarming and
unnecessary and unfounded, then you may unfortunately be statistically
categorized as one of many overreactive and hysterical Classicals attacking
pioneering work.
If people do choose to attack pioneering work with inaccurate facts,
insinuations, and scare-mongering, well ....
Most appreciate valid critique but if a person who has tried to conduct
serious research (at a tertiary level that has been independently
scrutinised by experts in the field before release by the supervising
university) is disparaged by colleagues who seem more concerned with
protecting pre-existing prejudices than considering the possible
implications, it does start to sound like sour grapes or professional
jealousy.
Nevertheless, the objections are more than justified since the medications
are prescribed when there is no clear and present danger of any infection in
any localized epidemic, and since one is intending to deliberately imprint
the artificial disease from the nosode on to the constitution of the patient
(which once upon a time in Homoeopathy used to be called an antipathic
effect! but now apparently is "within the framework of the Law of
Similars"), and since there was no actual examination of any kind of
antibody reaction in the patient at all used in the 15 year clinical trial.
Sheri, where are you? I am surprised you did not jump in here to point out
that antibodies mean very little when talking about immunity. :) Golden
himself points out that doing this would been meaningless for the study.
(Golden collected his data from personal consultations, feedback reports
from parents, and constitutional evidence such as a lack of chronic eczema
and asthma in recipients as being the long term benefits of his HP).

I'm really thankful you included various caveats in your post about the
inadvisability of injudicious dosing (of any remedy), but would emphasize
that it is a deep privilege to be invited to work with the energetic field
of another human being and a "messed up" case is actually no small thing,
vitally or otherwise, because the miasmatic consequences can be far-reaching
in terms of individual life decisions and potential of an individual.
This was the concern I had before the Golden research but isn't it
interesting and potentially exciting that the reverse of this appears true
if prophylaxis is used in a controlled way (and cannot think of anyone who
has suggested using it in an uncontrolled manner)? The implications and
potential benefits are huge not only for us but also for some of the world's
more vulnerable populations. Consider malaria and the loss of life that
results. Look at the information on it at The Do No Harm Initiative site.
Prophylaxis could also be the area in which homeopathic effect is validated
in the eyes of the greater scientific community because the hypothesis can
be so easily tested. Just think of it - the Brazilian study on Meningococcal
infections is a case in point.
As to
the assumption that adverse reactions are mostly just a fiction or delusion
in the minds of Classical Homoeopaths then I would have to say that some
practitioners unfortunately would not discern the signs of the sycotic miasm
if was growing on the tip of their own nose. It is critical to successful
case management that any alteration in the symptom-complex is correctly
interpreted during treatment. On a positive note, it is reassuring that
Golden is increasingly reducing the number of completely unnecessary nosodes
and dosages whenever he revises his standard protocol.
As Homoeopaths, we
can't afford to be 'part-time Vitalists' just when it suits us.
A true statements, Chris, and it cuts both ways.
We need to
switch on our own lights, be a lot more discerning about any material that
is presented, no matter how academic it appears, and not be lulled into a
false sense of security and optimism just because all the "right" words are
seemingly used.
Again true.
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--
A note to Sheri:
Sheri, because of your work in the anti-vaccination area some people with no
other source of information about homeoprophylaxis will listen to what you
say. I hope you convey the truth of the facts to them rather than the truth
as you may like it to be because many will be placing their trust in you -
quite a responsibility!
Kind regards,

Fran Sheffield
Homeopathy Plus! (Information - Education - Treatment)
http://www.homeopathyplus.com.au
The Do No Harm Initiative (Homeopathic Immunisation)
http://www.d-n-h.org


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Re: Newborn - @ Chris G.

Post by Sheri Nakken »

> --
IT also just NOT necessary Fran and all.

Using remedies in this way blanketly is NOT necessary
I follow the principles of minimum dose as well.
NO DOSE IS NECESSARY

The key is to learn the reality of these 'diseases'!
The fear then goes.
How about helping people with this instead - instead of just going along
with the drug companies and allopaths who stimulate fear in all.
This is a waste of money at the least.
Sheri

At 11:56 PM 3/11/2007 +1100, you wrote:
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Re: Newborn - @ Chris G.

Post by Fran Sheffield »

Sorry all - I am obviously having trouble with formatting on my emails -
hope this one goes out a little clearer.

Dear Chris (and Sheri),

I don't know how you and I can read the same material and come up with such
different impressions! I have made some comments below.
[snip]

In the past, some of those debates were justified but not now. Since the
conclusion and presentation of Isaac's research many of the concerns that
fuelled those debates have been put to bed. For example, one concern was
that potencies given to infants for protection rather than treatment may
cause disruption to their Vital Force. The results of the Golden's research
indicate that they do not - something that has also been noted for 200 years
in clinical practice. On the contrary, vitality seems to be strengthened by
these exposures. While homeopaths in this country may differ philosophically
about homeoprophylaxis some of the old concerns are no longer valid and only
aired speculatively by those unfamiliar with the research.

it
and

And not such a bad thing to do. He has certainly done the hard yards of
research in the face of stiff opposition and contributed significantly to
our knowledge of prophylaxis
administered
infant

Golden makes no such promise. I think you must be referring to his
statements about the data he analysed during his research. That claim was
accurate for that data. There is a big difference in his statements
retrospectively about the data analysed and predictive statements you claim
he has made.

our

Again, this statement is inaccurate and misleading. Golden has not been
convicted or even charged with "false or deangerous advertising". Each
attempt to vilify him by government authorities has been dismissed by the
investigating bodies on the basis that he has "no case to answer".
He has been stopped from providing prophylactics outside his home state of
Victoria by the threat of a $28,000 fine on each breach. While the legal
advice has been that this restriction could probably be contested
successfully in a court of law, Golden does not have the financial
where-with-all to do it and so has had to comply with this restriction. The
restriction had nothing to do with him making false claims or dangerous
advertising but more to do with the government using a loophole within the
Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) act to stop him providing
prophylactics.

Unlike standard homeopathics, nosodes, being from animal/human disease
products, have not been tested for safety and registered with the TGA the
way conventional medicines prepared from animal or human products have been
required to. To do so would cost tens of thousands of dollars for each
nosode which the Australian homeopathic community and pharmacies cannot
afford especially when the nosodes could not be patented in the manner or
conventional drugs to recoup costs at completion. While we know potentised
high dilutions makes the nosodes safe and that there has never been a
reported case of disease transmission via a potentised nosode, this counts
for nothing with the TGA. The fact that the nosodes have not been tested and
registered in the manner required for other human/animal products has
allowed the government to threaten Golden with fines for any breach. The TGA
know that nosodes are being used by the wider homeopathic community but so
far have turned a blind eye to this.
Our access to nosodes is indeed under threat - legislation is currently in
place to stop their use and it can be applied at whim at any time whether
nosodes are being used for prophylaxis or disease treatment. To creep around
on tip-toes so that we do not upset "them" is not the best way to go. The
only long-term protection we and the nosodes will have should homeopathy
become a greater threat to conventional medicine is if the non-homeopathic
community becomes more aware of their irreplaceable benefits and stands up
to demand their protection and funded research should they be threatened.
Any benefactors out there? Please see the link to The Do No Harm Initiative
in my signature line.

is

Where did you get these "length of protection" figures from? I do not recall
Golden claiming these, even as an "educated guess." He does refer to
diphtheria studies that show a negative Schick test some ten years after
exposure but also says a lack of studies generally in the area prophylactics
means that claims cannot be made.
Also, who has said anything about imprinting a nosological disease? Nobody
wants to do that and nor is there any evidence over the last 200 years that
this has ever happened with the appropriate use of prophylactics.

attacking

If people do choose to attack pioneering work with inaccurate facts,
insinuations, and scare-mongering, well ....

Most appreciate valid critique but if a person who has tried to conduct
serious research (at a tertiary level that has been independently
scrutinised by experts in the field before release by the supervising
university) is disparaged by colleagues who seem more concerned with
protecting pre-existing prejudices than considering the possible
implications, it does start to sound like sour grapes or professional
jealousy.

in
patient
trial.

Sheri, where are you? I am surprised you did not jump in here to point out
that antibodies mean very little when talking about immunity. :) Golden
himself points out that doing this would been meaningless for the study.
far-reaching

This was the concern I had before the Golden research but isn't it
interesting and potentially exciting that the reverse of this appears true
if prophylaxis is used in a controlled way (and cannot think of anyone who
has suggested using it in an uncontrolled manner)? The implications and
potential benefits are huge not only for us but also for some of the world's
more vulnerable populations. Consider malaria and the loss of life that
results. Look at the information on it at The Do No Harm Initiative site.

Prophylaxis could also be the area in which homeopathic effect is validated
in the eyes of the greater scientific community because the hypothesis can
be so easily tested. Just think of it - the Brazilian study on Meningococcal
infections is a case in point.

delusion
miasm
nosodes

A true statements, Chris, and it cuts both ways.

are

Again true.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
A note to Sheri:
Sheri, because of your work in the anti-vaccination area some people with no
other source of information about homeoprophylaxis will listen to what you
say. I hope you convey the truth of the facts to them rather than the truth
as you may like it to be because many will be placing their trust in you -
quite a responsibility!

Kind regards,

Fran Sheffield
Homeopathy Plus! (Information - Education - Treatment)
http://www.homeopathyplus.com.au
The Do No Harm Initiative (Homeopathic Immunisation)
http://www.d-n-h.org


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Re: Newborn - @ Chris G.

Post by Fran Sheffield »

Sheri, is this what you will be saying to the populations who lose millions
to malaria?
* --
no
truth

*

IT also just NOT necessary Fran and all.

Using remedies in this way blanketly is NOT necessary
I follow the principles of minimum dose as well.
NO DOSE IS NECESSARY

The key is to learn the reality of these 'diseases'!
The fear then goes.
How about helping people with this instead - instead of just going along
with the drug companies and allopaths who stimulate fear in all.
This is a waste of money at the least.
Sheri

Fran Sheffield
Homeopathy Plus! (Information - Education - Treatment)
http://www.homeopathyplus.com.au
The Do No Harm Initiative (Homeopathic Immunisation)
http://www.d-n-h.org


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Re: Newborn - @ Chris G.

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At 12:25 AM 3/12/2007 +1100, you wrote:

There is no malaria vaccine.

I certainly work with prophylaxis homeopathically if a person in immediate
vicinity of a disease that is life threatening or in immediate vicinity and
it is life threatening to that person (ie 2 month old exposed to pertussis).

We are not talking about that with this blanket remedy administration for
childhood illnesses such as measles, mumps, chickenpox, rubella. And for
the varying 'types' of meningitis out there, there are risk factors that
can be worked with and other ways to maintain health and decrease
susceptibility.
Sheri

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Re: Newborn - @ Chris G.

Post by Shannon Nelson »

Sheri--
I'm curious what you make of Golden's conclusion that the children
treated with his protocol (I think that's in addition to
"constitutional" h'c care) are healthier than those who have received
constitutional care only? Are you skeptical of his conclusion (believe
that the HP treated children are *not* healthier), or do you feel it's
a difference that is outweighed by other factors, or ?
Shannon


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Re: Newborn - @ Chris G.

Post by Fran Sheffield »

And this is possibly where we are on common ground.
I do not know of anyone within homeopathy, Golden included, who advises
blanket child or animal or traveller homeoprophylaxis. Outside of homeopathy
with some naturopaths, osteopaths, chiropractors, etc, it may be different.
Yet this is the misinformation that strident opponents constantly spread
when they know that this is not so.
I do a lot of work in this area and most of it involves education of the
parent /adult about all options and the real risk of these diseases. That is
one of the reasons I have a regular monthly feature with Meryl Dorey from
the Australian Vaccination Network on my radio show - so this sort of
information can be discussed. A person cannot make a truly informed decision
unless they have all the information.
On the occasions that parents do decide to immunise their child against all
of the childhood diseases, is this a bad thing? The research would indicate
that it isn't - that they are less prone to chronic disease than other
children groups. Certainly they do not appear to have any problems as a
result of it but opponents continue to scare-monger in this area because the
results do not suit their personal preference. The facts as we know them
should be given to those seeking protection so they can make the appropriate
decision for their situation.
Fran.

At 12:25 AM 3/12/2007 +1100, you wrote:

There is no malaria vaccine.

I certainly work with prophylaxis homeopathically if a person in immediate
vicinity of a disease that is life threatening or in immediate vicinity and
it is life threatening to that person (ie 2 month old exposed to pertussis).

We are not talking about that with this blanket remedy administration for
childhood illnesses such as measles, mumps, chickenpox, rubella. And for
the varying 'types' of meningitis out there, there are risk factors that
can be worked with and other ways to maintain health and decrease
susceptibility.
Sheri

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Re: Newborn - @ Chris G.

Post by Luise Kunkle »

Hi Fran,
But why would that be bad/harmful for the patients if the Golden kind
of prophylaxis isn't?

Regards

Luise

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Re: Newborn - @ Chris G.

Post by Fran Sheffield »

Hi Luise,
Not that it is necessarily bad but acquiring the disease naturally is the
most certain way of obtaining lifelong immunity. Many of the diseases are
mild if contracted during childhood but more of a problem during adulthood.
For this reason natural infection rather then prevention may be the best
option for these less serious diseases, especially when homeopathic
treatment is available should there be any problems.
Fran Sheffield
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The Do No Harm Initiative (Homeopathic Immunisation)
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Hi Fran,
But why would that be bad/harmful for the patients if the Golden kind
of prophylaxis isn't?

Regards

Luise


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Re: Newborn - @ Chris G.

Post by Irene de Villiers »

Fran Sheffield wrote:

Dear Fran,
I suspect that is a statement which may be really hard to back up?

Immunity is a state of disease resistance - and it is caused
physiologically by changes in the immune system as regards cytokine
balance.
It's my contention that those individuals who have genuine disease
resistance will have a balanced cytokine picture, and not the skewed
picture seen in any disease state - and also seen in the vaccinated state.

As research shows, vaccination causes a Th-2 skewed immune system.
However research also shows that natural immunity acquired through
disease, does NOT skew the immune system. On the contrary, such natural
immunity if anything increases TH-1 cytokine activity and balances the
immune system where vaccines do the opposite.

So these are two completely separate states of being
* one that is balanced and healthy and resistant to both acute and
chronic disease (due to the balanced immune system) and
* another that is a Th-2 skewed (hence damaged) immune system condition
and which is purported to provide immunity to acute disease (and in
which the skewed state predisposes chronic disease).

To get back to your first assertion - I DO think that natural disease
can sometimes confer immunity - but only if the immune system is left in
a healthy balanced condition - and sadly that is not always the case.
For example I had whooping cough at age 18 months - was vaccinated - and
then had it again at 4 years. Where was my lifetime immunity?
The point is that having a natural disease does NOT always confer
immunity much less lifetime immunity.

I also do not think even the healthiest person is impervious to the
onslaught of toxins. The system may well fight them off - but it may
also be left damaged in the attempt, depending on the perfection of raw
materials (nutrients etc) available.
This may leave the immune system cytokines unbalanced and even though no
disease might be evident at the time an immune system becomes imbalanced
- it is damaged in a way that predisposes it and makes it susceptible to
disease.

So I think we ar back to Hahnemann's definition of health, in that we
need o be *resistant* to disease. I think "immune" (to what?) or
"lifetime immunity" is not a realistic goal, but a balanced immune
system that is resistant - IS a realistic goal.

I also think it is easier to achieve a balanced and resistant immune
system by homeopathy than by natural disease - either with
homeoprophylaxis which is the easiest approach - or by homeopathic
treatment when illness is present.

I use homeoprophylaxis a lot in my practice as I work mainly in
veterinary homeopathy, and it would be irresponsible not to advise
homeoprophylaxis in many situations. For example feline panleukopenia
tends to kill a cat 24 hrs or less after it is diagnosed. I started
using homeoprophylaxis on a regular basis for cats in 1984, using a
protocol I received independently from a South African and an Irish
veterinary homeopath. I don't know the origin of the protocol but both
said it had been used "for ages", effectively. Well I can add at least
another "age".

As another example, Bordetella bronchiseptica (kennel cough in dogs) is
a deadly silent pneumonia in cats and kittens with a predicted death
rate of 100% for kittens under 6 months, and 50% if over 6 months.
Yet the Bordetella bronchiseptica 30C remedy in aqueous use - can be
given at birth to kittens born to an actively ill mother cat, and the
kittens may then safely be left to nurse with the mother and they will
remain healthy. Without the remedy, the entire litter dies in couple of
days. (It was the only time I ever lost an entire litter of kittens, and
I've bred cats since age 7.)

Aconitum napellus 200c is also a god prophylactic remedy in seevral
situations:
Handraised kittens invariably develop infections as they have no
immunity passed from the mother. But not if you add a little Aco 200C to
the formula to "nip infection in the bud" till they can develop some
resistance.
Likewise Aco 200 will protect cats going to a vet clinic or cat show or
travelling by plane etc.
Pyrogenium 200C will prevent pyometra in pregnant or in-season or
post-partum animals, especially cats and dogs as their large litter size
predisposes exposure to infection. (This remedy also will restore
health if a pyometra occurs.)

So it is not only vaccine remedies that can be used in homeoprophylaxis
- ANY remedy can be prophylactic in the right circumstances and so as
homeopaths we have a far more powerful set of options with which to
assist clients in preventing suffering and maintaining health than any
allopathic approach claims to have.

It's a matter of assessing risk and using homeoprophylaxis where the
risk of not using it is unacceptable.

Since using homeoprophylaxis in general for illnesses that are speedy
and life threatening (panleuk, parvo. distemper, cat flu etc) starting
1984, only one kitten has died of panleukopenia and was not protected by
the protocol. I'm not sure how many cats/kittens have used the protocol
I have suggested with success - several hundred at last. This single
death happened last year with the new strain of panleuk that mutated
from dogs back to cats (it's a parvo virus that originated in cats -
mutated to dogs and now has mutated back to cats). (Vaccinated cats were
dying in droves with that strain.) Only one protected by
homeoprophylaxis died. I've since beefed up the protocol to hopefully
give more complete cover for the new strain.

I predict that homeoprophylaxis might have to reach a point at which we
do see proving symptoms during the prevention protocol, simply because
the strength of the natural diseases is increasing due to allopathic
drug use. Up to now, protocols always stopped short of any proving
symptoms and indeed I do not see them in the protocol I use. It is
different from Golden's and involves multiple aqueous doses of 30C
remedy in decreasing time intervals.
In my opinion this happens because by the time we are adults, we have
messed up our immune system pretty thoroughly, and it is far from
balanced in cytokine ratios.
Why?
Why not use homeoprophylaxis rather than natural disease?

I can understand not bothering with prophylaxis for a common cold - but
measles, diptheria, whooping cough and polio are not mild, and there is
an awful tendency for adults to CONSIDER the disease mild when a child
has it, but the child might not agree!
I'm 58 and still remember vividly how I suffered at age 4 from the likes
of so-called mild childhood diseases. Kids have less options to complain
than adults, as they are basically sick and helpless. Are we so sure the
disease is really milder and it's not just convenient to suggest that?

I'm all for building disease resistance - and using homeoprophylaxis to
do so wherever there is significant risk without it.
After all the worst it can do is to build health:-) Natural disease
does not always do that; it can leave nasty damage in some cases!

Namaste,
Irene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."


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