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my feeling is also not to switch, tho I'd like to start seeing improvement in the nights. The repetition is part of treatment with medicinal solution, where when there is gradual improvement you repeat the remedy.
thanks for the input,
Vera

hahnemannian2002 wrote:
I would not change the remedy- it is too early for it ( of course
at this point I would not have been repeating Sepia either)

Vivid dreams in my perspective is that there are some items being
processed at this time because of the medicine and clearly an
indication to persist with the same medicine-

Patient needs to be convinced....

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Yet another part of the instruction (as I understood it) is that if
there is any uncertainty about what's happening, or if any
uncomfortable symptoms develop, you should pause the remedy and see
what happens. It *may* be that she's just getting a bit too much of a
medicinal push? Or it may be that the dreams are a necessary part of
her healing process, or whatever--time will tell. But why not suggest
she try a pause and see what happens?
Shannon
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Dear Vera,
If I understand, you gave this woman LM1 to take daily, I guess you told her to dynamize it by herself, and I hope she really does is. still, I have one thing to add:
I have learned that you can only (!!) use the same potency (LM1 for example) seven or eight times!
After that, you are actually giving her the same potency more or less (the succussion does not work much more than that)...
Did you know ?
So, If there is a good progression and you choose to hasten the cure with the LM method, You can continue giving the same remedy but the method has to be: 1-2 globule in a water (and alcohol) solution which succussed thoroughly and from it to put one tablespoon in a glass of water (7-8 spoonfuls) and stir it well, then from that give one (or several) teaspoons to the patient (note 134 to aphorism 248). This medicinal solution will be used up in 7 days ( if given daily or 15 days if given every second day), then in order to continue we must go on to LM2 and so forth... (Aph 248).

That is my understanding from what I have learned, If anyone understands it differently I'll be happy to read.

Ben.
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Dear Ben,

Since this statement about succussion not working much more than 7 or 8
times is new to me, I'm curious on what basis you have learned this, and
whether the knowledge has been confirmed by others??

Thank you for explaining a bit more!

Rosemary

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Hi Rosemary
I've learned it on the basis of the Sixth Organon as I've mentioned
the exact place (Aph 248 and it's note #134).

Please read:

§ 248 Sixth Edition

For this purpose, we potentize anew the medicinal solution(#134)
(with perhaps 8, 10, 12 succussions) from which we give the patient
one or (increasingly) several teaspoonful doses, in long lasting
diseases daily or every second day... ...every correctly chosen
homœopathic medicine, even those whose action is of long duration,
may be repeated daily for months with ever increasing success. If the
solution is used up (in seven to fifteen days) it is necessary to add
to the next solution of the same medicine if still indicated one or
(though rarely) several pellets of a higher potency with which we
continue so long as the patient experiences continued improvement...
...mindful, however, of modifying the solution of every dose with
thorough vigorous succussions, thus changing its degree of potency
and increasing it somewhat...

#134: Made in 40, 30, 20, 15 or 8 tablespoons of water with the
addition of some alcohol... ...The solution of the medicinal globule
(and it is rarely necessary to use more than one globule) of a
thoroughly potentized medicine in a large quantity of water can be
obviated by making a solution in only 7-8 tablespoons of water and
after thorough succussion of the vial take from it one tablespoon and
put it in a glass of water (containing about 7 to 8 spoonfuls), this
stirred thoroughly and then given a dose to the patient...

waiting after sepia is best treatment, However intercurrent sulpher in LM1 will also further enhance the work of sepia, we can jump to LM2 only after confirming that LM1 is exhausted and confirmed. Immediately sulpher in LM1 may be given.

VR VR wrote: Hi,
I have a case of a woman in her early 50s, with hot flushes that wake her in the night with sweating. She then can't get to sleep again, and is greatly helped by exercise. When she came to me, she was also getting hot flushes practically every hour during the day.
I gave her Sepia LM1, and the situation in the day time improved drastically within a day or two. However, there's no change at night, except for some very vivid unsettling dreams.
I'm not sure whether to go up in potency, as the remedy is helping during the day. It seems the remedy itself is working well. At present she's taking it once a day, I've tried switching between morning and evening but there's no difference in the night awakenings.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Vera
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Hi Radha,
What would be the reasoning behind intercurrent sulphur, and behind
that potency in particular?
Thanks,
Shannon
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for those who are interested - the Sepia did start helping in the nights. I think my impatience was very much connected with the patient's "vibes" and also possibly with the Sepia itself! I may move up in potency within Sepia, but I'll look into this suggestion if it feels this case is getting stuck. For those who were confused about the daily dose she is receiving, this is in accordance with the medicinal solution (6th Organon prescribing) method, where doses can be repeated frequently if necessary where there is gradual improvement. See David Little's website for more info on the method (www.simillimum.com).
Regards and thanks for all input,
Vera

radha rani wrote:
waiting after sepia is best treatment, However intercurrent sulpher in LM1 will also further enhance the work of sepia, we can jump to LM2 only after confirming that LM1 is exhausted and confirmed. Immediately sulpher in LM1 may be given.

VR VR wrote: Hi,

I have a case of a woman in her early 50s, with hot flushes that wake her in the night with sweating. She then can't get to sleep again, and is greatly helped by exercise. When she came to me, she was also getting hot flushes practically every hour during the day.

I gave her Sepia LM1, and the situation in the day time improved drastically within a day or two. However, there's no change at night, except for some very vivid unsettling dreams.

I'm not sure whether to go up in potency, as the remedy is helping during the day. It seems the remedy itself is working well. At present she's taking it once a day, I've tried switching between morning and evening but there's no difference in the night awakenings.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Vera

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