Minutus

yes, certainly a case of 'not now but later' - I am sure of that now, for both cases and
perhaps this happens more than what we are aware of or alert to. Best wishes, Joy

--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, Robert & Shannon Nelson wrote:

I had a similar case like this - where the patient got convulsions
when staying up late - if he goes to late night cinemas etc. he would
get convulsions. Knerr gives "Convulsions after nightwatching - Lach"
A couple of doses of Lachesis 200 cured him for more than 9 months.
Meanwhile he was staying up late, went for late night shows etc.
during this period. A relapse after 9 months once again got Lach 200
and he was followed up for 2 years after that with no problem.
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, "Celia M. Malm" wrote:
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No aspartame, no vaccine or penicillin reactions (no allergies at all), and
no organic cause (after the first one, they did a CAT scan and an EEG, plus
bloodwork--nothing abnormal at all). We did move about a month and a half
before the first convulsion, but she wasn't distressed about the move. I've
been racking my brains to think about environmental possibilities, since
this is quite an old (but very solid) house (1870s). Lead, maybe, although
she's not showing any other signs of lead poisoning, and she doesn't really
fit the picture of Plb. She really is a very healthy little girl, which is
part of why this sudden illness is so baffling.

We live in southeast Iowa--no homeopaths in sight. Closest I know of would
be the Chicago area, and that would be at least 4 hours' drive. My husband
is just starting his own business (don't medical problems always happen at a
time like this???), so we don't have the financial resources now to pay the
fees of a professional. So, for the moment, it's just me and my very meager
homeopathic library and my limited experience as a long-time amateur. :~(

The more I see of the discussion of Cocc., the less I think it would fit her
overall. Here's a basic description of her personality:

She's seven, going on seventeen. Very headstrong--if she wants to do
something, she will usually do it, even if she's been told not to. On the
other hand, she is not openly defiant, and though she may whine and
complain, she doesn't talk back. She is very wiggly--it's hard for her to
keep still for very long at a time. She reacts poorly to teasing, and
generally is brought to tears easily, although they are not weak, helpless
tears--more whiny tears, but she does inspire sympathy. Her fears are not
strong or outside the common run: the dark, spiders, bugs. The main thing
that has worried me about her before is that she was very slow to learn to
read, or even to learn her alphabet, and she doesn't enjoy the academic part
of school (unusual in our family), although she always wants to play with
other children (more so than she has the opportunity to), as long as they
aren't "bossy."

She's on the tall side for her age, and not skinny (but not obese either,
and definitely not a Calc. type of pudginess). The only other notable
physical condition is that she still has occasional wetting accidents, both
at night and in the daytime (usually in the day it's because she can't be
bothered to stop what she's doing to go to the bathroom). Although,
curiously, she's had no loss of bladder control with the seizures. Hmmmm.

The ABC site is giving me Opium, but that doesn't really suit her, and it
omits several of the more important symptoms. When I prioritize
"Convulsions, after loss of sleep," I get Cocc. I am seeing one item on the
remedy grid that I hadn't considered before, and probably should have: Lach.
She strongly dislikes having anything around her neck, although she really
doesn't seem to have the full picture of Lach.

We see the neurologist tomorrow (we've had the appointment since her first
seizure--takes a long time to get in to see him), and I'm sure he's going to
recommend putting her on scary allo-meds. She's eligible for low-income
insurance for kids, and naturally they would pay for allo-meds. But I don't
want that for her, dang it! *sighs* I'm very stressed about this
appointment, as I'm sure you can tell. Perhaps I'll be less stressed and can
think more clearly once that's over with.

Thank you to all!

Cee

Seems like your daughter needs Phos 200C - 4 times in a 24 hour period.
then wait.

According to the literature Phos has cured epilepsy.
Causations: Ill effects of anger, fear, grief, worry, exposure to
drenching rains, washing clothes, tobacco, having hair cut. Iodine.
Excessive use of salt; from Robin Murphy MM.

Regards,
Bill G.

Anything with electrical currents or magnetic fields--wiring near her
bed, power lines nearby, cell phone tower, anything like that?
Shannon
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Do you think one possibility could be that one of the intervening
remedies removed a block of some sort with the result that on the
return to the previous remedy the patient vital force state is not
the same and is able to respond?
It also sounds like Joy's patient was benefitting just from the
consultations - like ongoing counselling sessions, and they were
more important to her than the remedy prescription. So what's that
about? Maybe a feeling of needing personal contact and ongoing
support? fear of moving into a new space - transition issues? Other
suggestions?

Gail A.

-- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, "Joy Lucas" wrote:
now, for both cases and
Best wishes, Joy
wrote:
this time
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New symptoms she gave me tonight:

She said that when she goes to bed, her legs feel like "something is
squishing them." They feel "tireder than tired" and weak. This, according to
her report, is every night, not just before the seizures.

I'm not sure this changes the picture much, though. Reinforces Cocc. And
maybe Lach.?
Cee

She's been sleeping with a fan by her bed, and it's been closer to her head
than in the past. And there is wiring in the wall behind her bed, which
there wasn't in our last house. I did think of that, and I'm planning to do
what I can to change it (different fan and possibly move her bed to another
wall).

It also just occurred to me that she sleeps over the room where the DSL
wireless router is downstairs. *hits forehead* We never had DSL until we
moved to this house. I was worried about the idea of wireless, but I gave
in. Maybe I shouldn't have. Ouch. I'm not sure how to remedy that. We need
the DSL for my husband's business. Maybe we'll have get a new router (ouch,
more big expenses) and hardwire all the computers to it, because I don't
think you can turn off the wireless feature.

Good catch, Shannon! But will that change the remedy picture, if these
seizures were triggered by the electromagnetic energy?
Cee

That's worth checking out!
Would it be possible to have her sleep in another room temporarily, to
see whether the seizures stop? (I don't remember how often you said
she's had them.) Explain to her why, and that it's just an experiment,
make it like a temporary party? (We had to do something like that with
my then-nine-year-old son over a suspected mold issue. The *trick*
turned out to be getting him back into his own room--but a nice
"remake" and a lot of elaborate parental enthusiasm eventually turned
the trick. I think it was his ancient mattress that was causing
the problem!)

I don't know how wide an effect a DSL wireless router throws--anyone
know?? How much different it's apt to make if she's sleeping in the
room above versus a room next door, or ?? (It would be a shame to
invest a bunch of money in something irrelevant, yet it sure seems like
a possibility to check out...)

Moving her away from the wiring might not be hard--even adding a little
more distance can give quite a big drop in the field strength. Maybe
even just moving the bed a foot or so from the wall could be enough??
Even better--maybe you have a rental place where you could get an EMF
field meter to *see* whether it's a problem? I bought one a long time
ago, used it LOTS for some months, and was really happy with the
information I got from it. (We were in an old house, which turned out
to have some major "hot spots"!) Maybe by now you could even rent a
meter to "diagnose" the wireless router's impact??? I'm no so familiar
with that.

If I remember right, it's mostly older or "owner-builder" homes that
are apt to have wiring that gives off EMF fields. Wiring that is
"up-to-code" will have the wires wrapped around each other in a way
that causes their fields to (largely or completely??) cancel. (Can
anyone confirm that I've got that right? That was my understanding.)

As far as changing the picture? Well, I don't know. Most likely
*whatever* is behind the seizures--whether something electromagnetic or
something else, or even just the passage of time--is simply pushing on
her preexisting susceptibility. Unless you have noticed, since the
move, changes in other things--personality, energy level, food
preferences, generals--to suggest a deeper/broader change in her state,
I would guess that the whatever-it-is is simply stressing her at a weak
area. So--constitutional treatment is still a *very* good idea,
because seizures are a pretty extreme reaction to a situation that (I
assume) most people would not show any visible reaction to. (Not to
say they wouldn't be *affected* over time, tho; that I don't know.)
Um, I hope I tried to answer the question you were trying to ask, LOL!
Shannon
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This should give you an easy way to begin checking effects of her
sleeping place! Will the same thing happen in another room, etc.?
Shannon
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