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Re: I'm angry

Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 8:20 pm
by Nancy Siciliana
Whatever they are, they're not the only ones prescribing these polypharmacy
combos.

I've encountered "nutritionists", "aromatherapists", "chiropractors",
"M.D.s", "naturopaths" and health food store stock clerks all "prescribing"
these things. One MD I know with a thriving practice in Toronto loves to
tell her patients to take remedies according to a "Lunar Schedule". Her
patients typically take 20 to 30 remedies plus a "constitutional" remedy,
several times a day for several weeks. The shopping list alone is enough to
make me anxious; the dosing schedule would drive anyone crazy (let alone the
fact that so many different remedies repeated so often for so long cannot do
anyone good in any way).

In fact, it infuriates me to know that this is actually what the public
thinks about when they think "homeopathy"...specifically, some brightly
coloured boxes with a big number on the label (UNDA, I'm talking to you!!)
or little boxes with names of diseases on the front, all containing bunches
and bunches of remedies chosen arbitrarily. Some of these "remedies" even
say they are based on the "German Homeopathic Pharmacopia".

Is there such a thing as a German Homeopathic Pharmacopia which features
polypharmacy combinations? It would have to be enormous to accomodate all
the potential combos in these patent remedies.

Nancy

Re: I'm angry

Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 11:27 pm
by michele & Peter Graham
My experience with complexes is through patients who have come after
complexes have either made them very sick ( a very sensitive patient - I
wouldn't treat her for 2 months after taking the complex prescribed by a
naturopath), haven't worked at all or work only while taking the complex.

Once had a conversation with a homeopath here who trained elsewhere & with a
few years more experience than me. She mentioned using complexes from time
to time & I questioned her about the assault on the Vital Force & her answer
to me was that our Vital Force is assaulted by daily living so what harm
could a few homeopathic remedies do?

I guess what made me really angry was that the MS case has been going along
really nicely for nearly a year, just 2 remedies used to date in a few
potencies & someone who should know better could have mucked it up so
easily.

Michele.

Re: I'm angry

Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 1:17 am
by Shannon Nelson
That is frustrating...
She just didn't think to check with you first, before adding in another
therapy?
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Re: I'm angry

Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 1:29 am
by muthu kumar
Years ago, when my brother had a prolonged cough I gave him a homeo
cough syrup got over the counter with about 10 medicines thrown in
them. He took that for about 2, 3 days. His cough became worse and
he was complaining. Then based on his symptoms I gave him Ipec 30 3
doses - in 1 day, the cough stopped like magic. The interesting part
is the combination had Ipecac in it in 2x. Either it was negated in
the combination or it was aggravating the cough because of
repetition...
That was the only time any one in my family got a combination.

Having said that- I know of a doctor who has such a good name in
treating infertility. He always gives Sepia 200 or 1M a few doses.
Along with this he gives one of 2 combination syrups from a local
homeopathic pharmacy. If the patient has excess menses it is one
syrup and if she had decreased menses she would get another one ( I
do not know what it would be if the menses was regular). He claimed
such excellent results. He is a very knowledgeable prescriber and
one of the best homeo physicians I know of. He uses single medicine
prescriptions for so many other things.

I have used combination homeo pills in my regular allopathic
practice where instead of giving allopathic antibiotics etc. This
was a poor population, mostly could not afford antibiotics and did
not believe in homeopathy mostly. I used to give homeo combination
tablets I prepared. Had very good results with a) a cough/ cold
combination I had b) a fever/flu combination. People used to
specifically ask for yellow tablets ( my fever combo) and green
tablets ( cough combo). I even had homeopathic injections that I
used to buy from a few pharmacies ( In India in general practice
you cannot survive if you do not give injections. People can get any
tablets ( including antibiotics) over the counter, they come to the
GP just for injections)). I did not see any side effects etc. any
more than I would have seen had I put them on antibiotics.

At the same time I had a homeo practice in another place where none
of this combination was used.

All in all if you could take the time, regular single medicine
homeopathy is the best, hands down - no questions. But I would not
mind combinations if it is a question of that or giving allopathic
medicines. But as a homeopath, I would not go for combinations if
the patient had come to me specifically for homeopathic treatment.

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Re: I'm angry

Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 8:31 am
by drsaeedchaudhry
Hello Rochelle
You mean in UK there is flourishing complex Homeopathy and Classical
is declining more.There must be some classical Homoeopaths,busy
enough to join groups.
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Re: I'm angry

Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 11:51 am
by Rochelle Marsden
I know very little about complex Homeopathy practitioners- only because of
the sales leaflets from the companies that get sent to me and the fact that
one of the students who sat in with my clinic reported to me about someone
she had sat in on. I only know of classical homeopaths as this is the circle
I mix in.

Rochelle
Registered Homeopath, EFT(Advanced)Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk