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Re: Homeopathic help sought for little dog
Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 7:59 pm
by DCR
Had very similar experience with that group. I completely disagree with Mr. Lau's concepts (and am saddened when anyone feels the need to consider animals as 'lesser creatures') and I greatly appreciate the discussions on this list that include animal cases. However, there are times I would like to have access to a group that focuses more on homeopathic and holistic animal care. Does anyone have suggestions of other pet oriented homeopathy groups that interact on a bit more 'professional' and level?
Re: Homeopathic help sought for little dog
Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:37 pm
by belize21
In response to Dr. Lau's posting on "lesser" animals, I think Henry
Beston's writings adequately answer:
We need another and a wiser
and perhaps a more mystical concept of animals…
We patronize them for their incompleteness,
for their tragic fate of having taken form so far below ourselves.
And therein we err and err greatly.
For the animal shall not be measured by man.
In a world older and more complete than ours,
they move finished and complete,
gifted with extensions of the senses we have lost or never attained,
living by voices we shall never hear.
They are not brethren; they are not underlings;
they are other nations,
caught with ourselves in the net of life and time,
fellow prisoners of the splendour and travail of the earth.
Henry Beston 1888-1968
Regards,
Glen Dupree,DVM
homeopathyfortheanimals.com
Re: Homeopathic help sought for little dog
Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:38 pm
by LMGibson
Dr. Lau:
I feel the same as Diane. Lesser creatures!!!!??? If you are so
non-caring about homeopathy's ability to heal a dog, how can you be
sensitive to saving/curing the life-force of your patients? In my opinion,
a truly caring homeopath would care about ALL life. You are missing one of
the best opportunities as a student of homeopathy: Dogs can be the best
teachers because they do not make up symptoms; if symptoms are present they
are real without the emotional involvement that a human patient would bring
to the table.
I joined this list to learn from the experts about homeopathy and your
statement and non-sensitivity for animals has made it very clear to me that
I would never believe your posts to have credence. That's not the
homeopathy I want to learn.
Laura Gibson
Furrst Place K-9 Obedience & Bed and Biscuit
www.ProfessionalDogObedienceTraining.com
eMail:
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Re: Homeopathic help sought for little dog
Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:58 pm
by arista000
Dear Helga and All,
here's a thread from a homeopathic veterinary site (of which I am not
a member, so I won't make any judgements of it) that bears some
resemblance to your case and COULD be of some help:
http://tinyurl.com/zfzrl
BTW: I am "replying" to my own message simply because message delivery
has been so random in the last few months (in all Yahoo groups) that I
don't feel comfortable replying to any other message in this thread.
(For fear of some misunderstanding happening - they DO happen.)
Re: Homeopathic help sought for little dog
Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:22 pm
by Christine Wyndham-Thomas
Hi Helga
He's a very good vet and highly recommended.
Christine
"The UK doesn't need puppy farming
it already has too many dogs needing good homes!"
Dogs in days before vets & petfood became the norm
http://anubys.bravejournal.com/entry/15500
Re: Homeopathic help sought for little dog
Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:48 pm
by Shannon Nelson
Re several posts on the topic--I don't think we should get sidetracked
here into critiquing each others' personal beliefs and religious
views...
Best,
Shannon
Re: Homeopathic help sought for little dog
Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:02 am
by Ann
You can try Pets4Homeopathy.
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Pets4Homeopathy/ It's not
strictly classical, but a lot more open to chronic illness
discussion.
There's also homeopathy & canine cancer
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/homeopath ... inecancer/
The owner of the list, ClassicalHomeopathyPets, does state that she
does not want chronic discussions at all and from what I experienced
no acute discussions are allowed despite stating so.
Here's the link to the academy of veterinary homeopathy. You might
find a doctor there if needed.
http://www.theavh.org/referral/avh_index.php#
Good luck.
Ann
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Re: Homeopathic help sought for little dog
Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 2:55 am
by Dr. Lau Wee Hung
"lesser creature " = cattle, dogs, cats..... may include gorillas .........
Homeopathy has " like cures like" after case taking with a patient. Need to
learn more how to take a case with lesser creature .....
Not arrogance but IMHO and try to suggest what a homeopath has on his mind.
You have a point but you keep it till kingdom comes, if that is the right
one, you are in closed mind group.
IMHO, open mind put forward suggestion and often it is silenced by the
teacher-like manner. He, the teacher, is always more right than any student
( who will be a teacher one fine day, hope so ! )
Thank you for your input.
Dr. Lau. BHMS MD ( Hom. ) PhD ( registration finalised )
Re: Homeopathic help sought for little dog
Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 3:30 am
by Shannon Nelson
Hi Dr. Lau,
The interesting thing is that one *can* prescribe very successfully for
animals, using just the same skills that we develop to treat people,
esp., as was mentioned, infants or others who can't or won't
communicate verbally. It's very interesting to do, and can be really
thrilling to see the results.
As an example of very practical application (in addition to the very
practical matter of caring for one's pets), there are an increasing
number of commercial dairy farmers who use homeopathy--sometimes *only*
homeopathy--on their herds, treating all the usual ills of dairy
cattle--mastitis, foot rot, various diseases, etc. In this way they
have healthier animals, without need of drugs or antibiotics, and save
money as well. Would you agree that these are useful effects? What
are your thoughts about that situation?
Best wishes,
Shannon
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Re: Homeopathic help sought for little dog
Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 3:38 am
by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
A homeopath has on his mind, or should have, the desire to heal/cure any
living creature, from humans to plants.
Period.
To claim that one category is lesser than another is arrogant. Different
indeed, more difficult and challenging, yes, but the value of life does not
depend on whether you walk on 2 legs, 4 legs or no legs, fly, swim or do not
move.
It is called respecting all forms of life; using them with thanks for our
survival, yes, making them less, never.
Because I claim to have an open mind does not me I (or anyone else) has to
accept or agree with your opinion; it only means I have to examine it fairly
.......done that, you have read my reaction.......end of the story!
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, MD, PhD, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind".