rabies- prophylactic ?

[muthu kumar]

I accept your excuse - Thanks, keep up the good work
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[muthu kumar]

No one need to answer any one's questions... So Sheri can keep quiet
as she opted to since she does not like addressing email addresses-
I respect her wishes-

About this book -

Is this the book to go to - for knowing about homeopathic treatment of
Rabies from a non-germ point of view and the correct perspective for a
homeopath to have about the disease?
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[Joy Lucas]

If questions do not need answering then why ask them.

This is an important discussion, in my opinion, so why add a layer of
unnecessary curiosity by remaining anonymous to some. I don't think it
is an excuse for someone to not want to reply extensively to an
anonymous persona - it just doesn't help. Fine if you want to remain
that way but don't use it against others.

Allen's writings about Lyssin would form just part of our research - I
just offered it as a taster - the whole book is excellent and Lyssin is
just a small part of it. People will make their own mind up, as always.
Joy

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[muthu kumar]

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[Shannon Nelson]

Actually the body (human or whatever) is *crammed* with--and in fact
dependent upon--substances that are also "poisons". I suppose the word
"poison" is a lot like the word "weed"--it bespeaks our emotional
relationship to the thing, not anything about the thing itself... E.g.
white blood cells create hydrogen peroxide; arsenic is an essential
nutrient (tho in extremely small amounts), ditto numerous other "toxic"
substances.
In Allen's Nosdes, under the description of the making of Lyssinum, we
read:
"Next morning the [mother dog] was dead [from her rabies].... Both her
surviving puppies] were returned to the master, and even the bitten one
[bitten by its rabid mother] remained well. They were given to inhale
in the evening some of the 6th centessimal potency just prepared. Of
course, a true Hahnemannian never draws his conclusions, as the
slanderers have said, post hoc ergo propter hob, nor even the equally
foolish, it followed but could not have been caused by it."
Allen didn't think it was such a stupid idea... Also recall that when
giving a remedy prophylactially or in the very early stages of an
illness, there's apparently more latitude with remedy choice, and
"close" is more apt to be "close enough". (I didn't invent that; I was
taught it, and it has seemed to me to be true.)

Also, n Complete Rep there is the rubric "Hydrophobia, bitten, after
being", with the single entry of Lyssin, attributed to Knerr. Does
anyone happy to know what Knerr said about it?
Shannon

[Joy Lucas]

And the 'body' is full of and dependent on bugs and bacteria which
brings us full circle in this thread.

I would urge those interested to read about sulphocyanates, that have
huge levels of potassium which will explain the effects on the CNS vis
so called rabies. These levels of potassium are elevated depending on
what the animals eat.

I would use the word poison to suggest that which is more than
incompatible and nothing much to do with our emotional reaction to a
substance.

If Lyssin is given in a case of rabies and cures then presumably the
symptoms fit. Not all cases will, otherwise we will be responsible for
promoting this rx for that state and that remedy for that state and
have no notion of the individual case. Hydrophobia will also take many
forms in each individual.

I am astonished I am having to support the basics of homeopathy. Joy

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[muthu kumar]

I did not say I did not want them answered. Answering or not is as
much a choice as is revealing one's name. Sure I would like them
answered. It is an important topic and it is unfortunate that my name
or lack thereof is an impediment to the sharing of knowledge.
I answer to the name Hahnemannian 2002 or if it is a mouthful -

All,
I go by the name Jim Green ( I am kinda green in homeopathy). I live
in NJ and wherever the pastures are green...

Call me Jim -
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[Shannon Nelson]

Hi Joy,
Sure, it's a very relevant comparison.
And when the body becomes over-full of, say, arsenic, we find ways to
take it out--or else we suffer from it. Ditto with certain of the
"bugs".

There is another similarity: When the body is well-nourished and in
balance, it has less tendency to pick up toxins, similarly (tho also
differently) to the way it has less tendency to develop an
overabundance of certain bacteria or etc.

Are you suggesting that what we call rabies may be potassium poisoning
rather than viral, or did I miss your point?

My point--apparently the sulphocyanates are "poison" in too-large
amounts only--similarly to arsenic, strep, etc.

I have never heard of a *case* of rabies cured by lyssin, or anything
except the single agave cure in Clarke's Dictionary. Lyssin's
usefulness in rabies, *if* at all, would surely be as preventative, not
cure. (And from Hahnemannian's report, we can't depend on that
either--H2002, am I right in assuming the two people you knew of took
it as *preventative*, or did they take it only after developing
symptoms?)
Shannon

[Brian Garnant]

Hi Jim,
Hope to see you at the National Center for Homeopathy road tour in Philadelphia June 10th (Saturday) and 11th: First Response Homeopathy: Disaters, Epidemics, and Emergencies. More info at:
http://homeopathic.org/otr0606pa.htm
I'm originally from Manhattan, live outside DC now. I'm sure we could find somnething to talk about ;>))
Brian Garnant
hahnemannian2002 wrote:
I did not say I did not want them answered. Answering or not is as
much a choice as is revealing one's name. Sure I would like them
answered. It is an important topic and it is unfortunate that my name
or lack thereof is an impediment to the sharing of knowledge.
I answer to the name Hahnemannian 2002 or if it is a mouthful -

All,
I go by the name Jim Green ( I am kinda green in homeopathy). I live
in NJ and wherever the pastures are green...

Call me Jim -
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[Sheri Nakken]

At 11:07 PM 5/30/2006 -0500, you wrote:

There is much in the literature and no time to copy it all for you
Do you have Encyclopedia Homeopathica
Much there

for example
The next medical discovery was the claim of Louis Pasteur. He stated that
by inoculations of an attenuated virus from a rabid animal immunity and
cure may be produced against the frightful torments of rabies. But prior to
Pasteur's claims, the homeopath, Constantine Hering of Philadelphia, had
potenized and proved the saliva of the rabid dog (Lyss.) and successfully
used the remedy in the treatment of hydrophobia.

....
Before Pasteur introduced his rabbit serum for hydrophobia, Dr. Constantine
Hering had potentized and proven the salavia of the rabid dog and made
cures of hydrophobia - that remedy is called Hydrophobinum or Lyssinum

AH Grimmer - The Collected Works

Hahnemann - Materia Medica Pura
As sure as there are several varieties of hydrophobia from the bite of
rabid animals, so sure is it that we cannot cure them all with one remedy,
and that we require belladonna in some, henbane in others, and thorn-apple
in yet others, in order to cure them, according as the totality of the
morbid symptoms presents more similarity with the symptoms of the first,
second, or third of these plants

Hering................... Mary M., aet. 17, had been bitten several years
previously by a dog, and reading of several cases of hydrophobia as
reported in papers, was found in following condition : crouched in corner
of a sofa, dark red bloated face, expression of terror in face, eyes
glistening, conjunctiva injected red; was brought into this condition by
endeavoring to take a drink of water, and could not hear water mentioned
without a shudder of fear, could not swallow, pulse very high, tongue dry
and coated red; Lyssin 2c one dose; she was better next day, but had
several slight attacks afterwards, always induced by running of water, but
always yielding to remedy; has not had an attack in nearly a year

much more on other remedies
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