One of my clients also opted for the huge doses of Vitamin B that seem
to be on offer to some people who have MS. These set her back terribly,
it was like starting all over again. Best, Joy
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MS
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Shannon Nelson
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Re: MS
Hi Joy,
Can you give any more details about this--just what was she given, and
what happened?
Shannon
Can you give any more details about this--just what was she given, and
what happened?
Shannon
Re: MS
Hi Pauline
All can offer is that there is a remedy called MS (multiple sclerosis nosode) in Synthesis --- the
reference provided, and only place it is found in Synthesis, is from Farokh Master from his work -
Bedside clinical Tips ---- in the rubric:
GENERALS -- AMYOTROPHIC LATERAL SCLEROSIS
There are 18 remedies in the rubric
The Synthesis database at Archibel, lists Reckeweg as the source though, and therefore the
following from the Heel materia medica may be what you have in your posession
MS-Nosode-Injeel D 12, D 30, D 200 0.367 ml each.
MS-Nosode-Injeel forte D 8, D 12, D 30, D 200 0.275 ml each.
MS and similar pathogens, e.g. encephalomyelitis as well as para- or post-infectious myelitis in the
course of infectious diseases such as measles, rubella, pneumonia, typhus, malaria, etc.
Nystagmus, scanning speech, intention tremor, neuritis retrobulbaris (hazy sight, decline in
vision), cerebellar ataxia, spastic paresis with deficient reflexes of the abdominal wall. Sensory
disturbances such as paresthesis, sensation of numbness and tension, equilibrium disturbances,
vertigo, gastro-intestinal disorders, euphoric conditions, unmotivated laughter, depression, defects
of intelligence extending to dementia.
Best
Robyn
"The fact is we need any and every way of finding the right remedy; the simple simile, the simple
symptomatic similimum and the farthest reach of all - the pathologic similimum, and I maintain that
we are still well within the lines of Homoeopathy that is expansive, progressive, science fostered
and science fostering." (Dr. J. Compton Burnett)
All can offer is that there is a remedy called MS (multiple sclerosis nosode) in Synthesis --- the
reference provided, and only place it is found in Synthesis, is from Farokh Master from his work -
Bedside clinical Tips ---- in the rubric:
GENERALS -- AMYOTROPHIC LATERAL SCLEROSIS
There are 18 remedies in the rubric
The Synthesis database at Archibel, lists Reckeweg as the source though, and therefore the
following from the Heel materia medica may be what you have in your posession
MS-Nosode-Injeel D 12, D 30, D 200 0.367 ml each.
MS-Nosode-Injeel forte D 8, D 12, D 30, D 200 0.275 ml each.
MS and similar pathogens, e.g. encephalomyelitis as well as para- or post-infectious myelitis in the
course of infectious diseases such as measles, rubella, pneumonia, typhus, malaria, etc.
Nystagmus, scanning speech, intention tremor, neuritis retrobulbaris (hazy sight, decline in
vision), cerebellar ataxia, spastic paresis with deficient reflexes of the abdominal wall. Sensory
disturbances such as paresthesis, sensation of numbness and tension, equilibrium disturbances,
vertigo, gastro-intestinal disorders, euphoric conditions, unmotivated laughter, depression, defects
of intelligence extending to dementia.
Best
Robyn
"The fact is we need any and every way of finding the right remedy; the simple simile, the simple
symptomatic similimum and the farthest reach of all - the pathologic similimum, and I maintain that
we are still well within the lines of Homoeopathy that is expansive, progressive, science fostered
and science fostering." (Dr. J. Compton Burnett)
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Shannon Nelson
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Re: MS
Hi Robyn,
Do you or anyone know, or does it say, what the nosode is made from?
Is a particular pathogen implicated?
Shannon
Do you or anyone know, or does it say, what the nosode is made from?
Is a particular pathogen implicated?
Shannon
Re: MS
Dear Shannon, she had been doing really well on her rx and we had set
up a system whereby she just came to see me whenever she wanted to and
the decision was always hers. On this occasion she turned up looking
dreadful, weak, could hardly stand, discoloured skin, dark circles
under the eyes, <<< of her overall condition, panic attacks and really
bad digestive problems. Had several injections of Vit b12 and as there
seemed to be such a coincidence regarding this I did a lot of research
on this (had always thought that most of the B vits were innocuous) and
came to the conclusion that it could be due to the preservatives in the
injections, but her condition didn't alter even when she went onto oral
use (she wanted this therapy and it wasn't my place to stop her). So, a
bit of a mystery but interesting that Vit B12 contains cobalt, which I
did prescribe at one time and the interim rx that did the most good.
Eventually this phase subsided and she returned to her previous rx and
continues to do really well with no more unnecessary Vit B12. Best
wishes, Joy
http://www.homeopathicmateriamedica.com
http://www.homeopathicmateriamedica.blogspot.com
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up a system whereby she just came to see me whenever she wanted to and
the decision was always hers. On this occasion she turned up looking
dreadful, weak, could hardly stand, discoloured skin, dark circles
under the eyes, <<< of her overall condition, panic attacks and really
bad digestive problems. Had several injections of Vit b12 and as there
seemed to be such a coincidence regarding this I did a lot of research
on this (had always thought that most of the B vits were innocuous) and
came to the conclusion that it could be due to the preservatives in the
injections, but her condition didn't alter even when she went onto oral
use (she wanted this therapy and it wasn't my place to stop her). So, a
bit of a mystery but interesting that Vit B12 contains cobalt, which I
did prescribe at one time and the interim rx that did the most good.
Eventually this phase subsided and she returned to her previous rx and
continues to do really well with no more unnecessary Vit B12. Best
wishes, Joy
http://www.homeopathicmateriamedica.com
http://www.homeopathicmateriamedica.blogspot.com
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Re: MS
Michele,
One of my instructers has MS, diagnosed since medical school. She teaches has a practice and has horses ( a lot for someone headed for a wheelchair existance several yrs after diagnosis). Like Joy said commited to homeopathy is the way to go.
Sue
One of my instructers has MS, diagnosed since medical school. She teaches has a practice and has horses ( a lot for someone headed for a wheelchair existance several yrs after diagnosis). Like Joy said commited to homeopathy is the way to go.
Sue
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Re: MS
Dear Joy,
You said:
** There's one thing I know to cause the type of reaction to B12
you cited in your follow-up email. This is damagt to the pathway by
which Vit B12 is metabolized. This occurs when someone has taken
histamine H2-receptor blockers, proton pump inhibitors, or most
antidepressants. Of course, there is always the possibility that this
pathway was damaged at some point in life by an environmental toxin.
--
Regards,
Catherine
You said:
** There's one thing I know to cause the type of reaction to B12
you cited in your follow-up email. This is damagt to the pathway by
which Vit B12 is metabolized. This occurs when someone has taken
histamine H2-receptor blockers, proton pump inhibitors, or most
antidepressants. Of course, there is always the possibility that this
pathway was damaged at some point in life by an environmental toxin.
--
Regards,
Catherine
Re: MS
Michelel I have treated many cases and I would say the condition is
like most others in that you cant generalise about causes nor remedies
or responses. 2 of my most dramatic cases ever were MS 'cures' and
some of my most abject filures were also MS cases. The very rapidly
deteriorating severe cases are not fun to treat in my experience.
However it is a condition that can respond to good treatemnt. More so
that ALS (Motor Neurone disease). I have heard many theiries ove rht
eyears about common causations and types of people that get MS but my
expereince has often contradicted those theories so I keep an open
mind and 'treat each case individually'. The boring old homeopathic
line we trot out all the time Im afraid!
PS also bear in my that some MS cases burn themselves out ie
spontaneous remission so the docs would always say thats what happend
to any case you think you may have helped.
Best wishes
Robin
like most others in that you cant generalise about causes nor remedies
or responses. 2 of my most dramatic cases ever were MS 'cures' and
some of my most abject filures were also MS cases. The very rapidly
deteriorating severe cases are not fun to treat in my experience.
However it is a condition that can respond to good treatemnt. More so
that ALS (Motor Neurone disease). I have heard many theiries ove rht
eyears about common causations and types of people that get MS but my
expereince has often contradicted those theories so I keep an open
mind and 'treat each case individually'. The boring old homeopathic
line we trot out all the time Im afraid!
PS also bear in my that some MS cases burn themselves out ie
spontaneous remission so the docs would always say thats what happend
to any case you think you may have helped.
Best wishes
Robin
Re: MS
I was working on the person with MS today...and trying to find pulses in her
neck, just below the occipital ridge. Very long time concentrating to finally
pick up something. She said there were lesions on the brain stem? I wonder if
those are the kinds of lesions that could be affected by thio or other
remedies....that could dissolve the lesions...or maybe these are not the same
kind of lesions as any old scar tissue.
neck, just below the occipital ridge. Very long time concentrating to finally
pick up something. She said there were lesions on the brain stem? I wonder if
those are the kinds of lesions that could be affected by thio or other
remedies....that could dissolve the lesions...or maybe these are not the same
kind of lesions as any old scar tissue.