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bored_chick
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natrum ars

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does anyone have a deep mental emotional profile of nat-ars...it seem harder to find online than the other natrums


Will Taylor
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Natrum arsenicosum was introduced as one of Kent’s “New Remedies” purely on speculative (= “made-up”) symptomatology, principally on speculations on what a “hybrid” of Natrum muriaticum and Arsenicum album (arsenic trioxide) might look like. You can find Kent's (unreliable, with no basis in “proving” [ptüfung] nor in clinical experience) description in his New Remedies http://homeoint.org/books3/kentmm/nat-ars.htm, and this is often incorporated into published versions of his Lectures on Homeopathic Materia Medica. Aspects of Kent’s “description” have been carried over into the works of other authors and into our repertories, sadly without attribution for us to use in identification of source. These “New Remedies” were initially published as a contacted series in the journal The Denver Critique. Note that Kent did not identify these writings as speculative; however they can readily be identified by the boilerplate style of description. Kent was brought to task on these by Henry Clay Allen, and in response ceased continuation of the series he had promised.
This approach to speculation on the properties of “hybrid” remedies has been reintroduced in current practice by Jan Scholten, and today is often accepted uncritically by many as acceptable practice; although this does stand in striking contrast to the evidence-based approach introduced by Hahnemann. I would emphasize that I bring Hahnemann into this discussion not as a source of dogma, but as the vanguard for evidence-based medicine, which I consider to be his greatest contribution to medical practice (the principle of Similars and the minimal dose derive directly from this).

There is also some “conventional” (ptüfung- & clinically-derived) description of this remedy in our literature, tho this is often admixed, without attribution to identify source, with Kent’s speculative material in our historical and contemporary literature.
Look for this more reliable information in TF Allen’s Encyclopedia of Pure Materia (including Gourbeyre’s 6th trituration ptüfung and ptüfungen of the Homeopathic Materia Medica Club of Allegheny county PA), in Hering’s Guiding Symptoms, & in Ernest Farrington’s Clinical Materia Medica, as trusted sources. Later descriptions invariably incorporate Kent’s speculations, without referencing the source.

I would generally advise away from the use of the interwebs as a source for description of remedies. Some of our valuable literature has been posted for online access, e.g. at http://homeoint.org but there is also a great deal of potentially misleading material to be found. A good collection of homeopathic materia medica can be had inexpensively. For extensive literature research, I rely on the Encyclopedia Homeopathica software package, which places an extensive library of our classical literature on my 11” Macbook Air (running on Windows virtualized in VMWare Fusion).

will


Shannon Nelson
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Post by Shannon Nelson »

If (Will or) anyone has investigated, I'm curious how well or badly Ken't description matches (or does match) Scholten's (again theoretical) description?


Will Taylor
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Re: natrum ars

Post by Will Taylor »

I'm curious how well or badly Ken't description matches (or does match) Scholten's (again theoretical) description?
not theoretical; speculative. an important distinction.


Shannon Nelson
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Re: natrum ars

Post by Shannon Nelson »

Explain?


Jean Doherty
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Post by Jean Doherty »

I think it was Jonathan Shore who presented Nat Ars once as a very high achiever and several times I have found it useful. Magnificent teacher! I am sure his lectures must be archived somewhere. His portrayals of Tuberculin and Medorrhinum unforgettable.
He also I think said that in Homeopathy the Good Lord gives success with ones first cases and one becomes hooked. The reality of the expertise needed comes later.
Jean


bored_chick
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Re: natrum ars

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in the complete rep....if I type in nat-ar, a whole bunch of rubrics come up, more than I can find online. Are those accurate...(in the complete rep)


Maria Bohle
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Post by Maria Bohle »

Repertories are never accurate, they are a book of symptoms. Some remedies may have been transcribed wrong, some omitted and others mistakenly added.

Material medica study is always essential. Proving a are the best, if available.


bored_chick
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Re: natrum ars

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are there many material medicas by different authors?


Will Taylor
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Re: natrum ars

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are there many material medicas by different authors?
certainly.


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