Ebola (Spanish Flu - hemorrhagic symptoms)

[Lynn Cremona]

Ebola
http://www.whale.to/v/spanish.html

There is evidence that the Spanish Flu did have hemorrhagic symptoms.
Vickie Menear, MD and homeopath, was doing some research on Flu for her class at Hahnemann Homeopathic College, Albany, California, when she ran into a great deal of literature that supports this possibility.
some of her source material. If you are interested in following up this new "lead" on the Spanish Flu epidemic, this is a good place to start.
Here are the references:

1. 'The Plague Of The Spanish Lady: The Influenza Pandemic of 1918-1919'

by Richard Collier, Atheneum Publishing, New York, 1974

QUOTE:

Page 7:
"It began, undramatically, after a two-day incubation period, with a cough. Next there was pain--behind the eyes, in the ears, in the lumbar region. Soon a drowsy numbness invaded the body, and fervor set in; often the temperature soared to 104 degrees F. The pulse was thready and unstable; the victim's tongue was thickly coated...every mortal fiber ached indescribably--the throat, the head, the naso-pharynx.."

Page 35:
"But which disease? All over the world, doctors were noting symptoms so at variance with the spring epidemic --and with any known form of influenza--that it might have been an unknown sickness...that each time a man so much as stirred on his pillow, serous fluid poured from his mouth and nostrils...a burning pain above the diaphragm...the frontal headache that recalled Typhoid fever...painfully congested conjunctivae...coated tongues with bright red tips...another maverick symptoms: what doctors term 'silent lungs', an absence of breath so total he was convinced his stethoscope had given out."

Page 37:
"...case after case of leucopenia--a kind of leukaemia in reverse, where the white corpuscles of the blood are strangely reduced in numbers...lost her sight within six days...gangrene of the sexual organs...afflicted by diarrhoea so intense he endured twenty movements a day....On one factor, at least, all doctors were agreed: only in Cholera did the collapse come so suddenly that most victims could fix the precise moment when they fell...a man staggering home at a run, handkerchief clapped to a bleeding nose--but most often this killer-virus struck like a lightning-bolt."

Page 69:
"One moment she could see her face, mirrored opaquely in a bowl of water that her mother held (she was having Epistaxis, nosebleed while in the throes of the Spanish Flu). Next instant it had vanished, blotted from view by the blood pouring from her mouth and nose....Dr. Hennewig arrived. His verdict..."I have seen many such cases -- without the haemorrhage she would not have recovered."

Page 69:
"Later, Germany's Public Health Administration was to report that in many areas Epistaxis affected up to HALF of all influenza victims--often as much as a pint of blood at a time."

Page 69:
"Major Charles Mix, of the Army Medical Corps, saw a greater significance. Among doughboys at Camp Mills, New York, Mix noted interference with the passage of blood from the heart's right ventricle to the lungs caused enough damming back of venous blood 'to make possible nasal haemorrhage on the slightest occasion'. Many were even then cyanotic, and some, despite this haemorrhage, developed pneumonia..."

Page 220-221:
"....why should the sickness affect so many organs of the body normally untouched?...most often the disease resembled encephalitis, with the patient lapsing into a coma...a dilation of the heart but even of fatty degeneration...a cough so intense that it ruptured the muscles of a soldier's rectum...retention of urine...puffy faces and swollen ankles of acute nephritis...the lungs were the organs most vitally affected...a patient's face so contorted in death that even close friends couldn't recognize him...and autopsy surgeons were encountering what one doctor termed 'a pathological nightmare'; lungs up to six times their normal weight, looking 'like melted red currant jelly.'"

2. 'Epidemic And Peace', 1918 by Alfred W. Crosby, Jr., Greenwood Press, Westport, CT, London, England

Page 4:
"The Surgeon General's office dispatched Colonel Welch to Devens (Army base)...included in that group Colonel Victor C. Vaughan, ex-president of the American Medical Association; Rufus Cole of the Rockefeller Institute; and Simeon Walbach of the Harvard Medical School....(p.7)...Welch and his colleagues...glanced in at the wards with their lines of cots and prostrated soldiers, whose linens were often stained with bloody sputum and the sudden nosebleeds that were symptoms of the Spanish Influenza..."

Page 7:
"In the open chest of a cadaver Welch saw the blue, swollen lungs of a Spanish Influenza...Cause of death? That at least was clear: what in a healthy man are the lightest parts of his body, the lungs, were in this cadaver two sacks filled with a thin, bloody, frothy fluid.....The lungs of those who died quickly, sometimes only 48 hours after the first ache and cough, were such as he had never seen before...Their most conspicuous feature was the enormous quantity of thin, bloody fluid. It oozed out of their lungs sectioned for examination, and in the large air passages leading to the throat it mixed with air in a bloody froth. As rigor mortis set in, the fluid often poured from the nose and stained the body wrappings."

Page 8:
"If there was anyone at Devens (the Army base) who could be depended upon as a pillar of strength, it was this safe of Johns Hopkins. But when he saw the wet lungs of influenza pneumonia in the fall of 1918, the pillar trembled. "This must be some new kind of infection...or plague."

Dr. Menear has a list of other books and articles supporting the hemorrhagic symptoms of the Spanish Flu. Should you want the list published here, on OUTBREAK, I'll be happy to call her and get it sent to you. She also has information on Crotalus Horridus being utilized as a remedy during the pandemic.
I can only note that the symptoms of the 1918 "influenza" and the Ebola of 1995, have marked similarities .
My percentages of homeopathic remedies used versus traditional medicine (drugs) during 1918 influenza come from an article that appeared in Homeopathy Today, January, 1990. It was the following and I'll quote:

"Dean W.A. Pearson of Philadelphia (Hahnemann College) collected 26,795 cases of (1918) influenza treated by homeopathic physicians with a mortality rate of 1.05 percent while the average old school (traditional medicine/drugs) mortality was 30 percent."

I'd like to credit Julian Winston, New Zealand, one of our foremost homeopathic archives experts
This article was originally published by the "Journal of the American Institute for Homeopathy", May, 1921 and I'd like to share the entire article and you can draw your own conclusions. This article was a culling of information after the Spanish Flu epidemic had occurred.
In it, you will find mentioned other remedies, other than Crotalus Horridus, that were used to save lives--Gelsemium, Eupatorium Perfoliatum, and Bryonia. Unfortunately, I wasn't given the space at this website to share this information with you before this.

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Another reference and thoughts on Ebola

excerpt from

'Poisons That Heal' 1995, by Eileen Nauman,
Dr. Gail Derin studied the symptoms of Ebola Zaire, the most deadly of the three that can infect human beings. Dr. Vickie Menear, M.D. and homeopath, found that the remedy that most closely fit the symptoms of the 1914 "flu" virus, Crolatus horridus, also fits the Ebola virus nearly 95% symptom-wise!
Crolatus horridus, also fits the Ebola virus nearly 95% symptom wise.
1. Crolatus horridus (rattlesnake venom)

2. Bothrops (yellow viper)

3. Lachesis (bushmaster snake)

4. Phosphorus

5. Merc. cor.
Best,
Lynn
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[Dale Moss]

I'd want to know how the patients mentioned in Collier's book had been treated before ascribing their symptoms entirely to the Spanish Flu. Overuse of aspirin, a blood thinner, was a contributing cause in many deaths.
Peace,
Dale
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[Tanya Marquette]

I can't provide any documentation now, but I recall learning that is was the aspirin that killed most of the people
in the 1918 flu epidemic. There was a 33%? death rate of those treated allopathically and a 1-6% death rate of those
seeking homeopathy. Many who came to homeopaths came to late after being treated allopathically. And then
there were many who became sick, did nothing and got better.
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[Lynn Cremona]

Yes

From
Homeopathy In Influenza‑A Chorus Of Fifty In Harmony
By W. A. Dewey, M. D., University of Michigan
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There is one drug which directly or indirectly was the cause of the loss of

more lives than was influenza itself. You all know that drug. It claims to

be Salicylic acid. Aspirin's history has been printed. Today you don't know

what the sedative action of Salicylic acid is. It did harm in two ways. Its

indirect action came through the fact that Aspirin was taken until

prostration resulted and the patient developed pneumonia."

Frank L. Newton, M. D., Somerville, Mass.

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I only provided the information mentioned by Vickie Menear for those interested in researching it further.
Best,
Lynn
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[Irene de Villiers]

It was indeed. If aspirin was gven it caused the flu to go into pneumonia and those victims usually died.

Thanks for the kind comments on my Ebola views - from you and others
Namaste,
Irene
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"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Sheri Nakken]

http://www.whale.to/vaccines/span.html
and much here http://www.whale.to/v/spanish_flu.html

try not to get too sucked in - remember the lies about h1n1, h5n1, sars and more
Sheri

At 11:28 PM 8/2/2014, you wrote:
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[Dale Moss]

You probably got this from Sandra Perko's book on the homeopathic treatment of influenza. Of all the books on the Spanish Flu pandemic that I've read, hers was the only one to explore the role of aspirin. The allopathic-oriented ones just treated the cause of sudden death as a huge mystery.
Peace,
Dale
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[Roger B]

How does aspirin being the real killer explain all of those death in Alaskan villages (and other places like that) where every man, woman, and child was wiped out?

Roger Bird
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It was indeed. If aspirin was gven it caused the flu to go into pneumonia and those victims usually died.

Thanks for the kind comments on my Ebola views - from you and others
Namaste,
Irene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Tanya Marquette]

not sure of the author, but definitely from a homeopathic info source.

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[Irene de Villiers]

Did you miss Julian WInston's great analysis with data for this epidemic?
VERY well researched and documented.

(It used to be free on his website, but no longer.)

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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."