before and after a TOOTH EXTRACTION

[Tanya Marquette]

I suspect they are called wisdom teeth due to the time they come in—at an age of supposed wisdom
in growing up
t
From: Irene de Villiers
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 5:03 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] before and after a TOOTH EXTRACTION
I don't know why that old wives tale is still going around.

I consider it the other way round - NO surgery should be done without arnica beforehand.
A SINGLE dose will not increase or cause bleeding, and it WILL prevent any shock, which is a much higher risk with any anesthetic (especially general anesthesia).

[I base this on daily use of Arnica in practice at a vet clinic for about 5 or 6 surgeries a day, 6 days a week for 2 years. I'll leave the math to you...Not one death in that time, whereas without Arnica the death from surgery complications is 1 or 2%. ALso no bleeding issues of course.]
It does not if you dose once.
It may if you dose ten times before surgery
Then too.
But more important before surgery.

As for bleeding, if anything, a single dose of Arnica prevents it.
However mistakes happen (with the surgical knife) and if bleeding occurs, the quickest and most effective first aid is calendula tincture on a pressure bandage. For example if a tooth extraction area bleeds profusely, put calendula on a gauze wad or some such thing and place it over the area and bite on it a while.
As long as a blood vessel is not cut lengthways significantly, that will stop even quite severe bleeding VERY fast.
Hope you never have a next time but if someone did, and had only one 30C Arnica, I'd make it aqueous and take a sip before and after surgery, it may skip the pain altogether.

I know about curved roots too, mine had gone diving under the roots of other molars. I STILL have a piece of broken dental tool in there 40 years later.... I do not know why they call such teeth "wise"

Namaste,
Irene

REPLY TO: only
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Soroush Ebrahimi]

Because when you have them removed, you are no longer wise! )
Because the come through when you have reached the age of physical maturity and someone associated physical maturity with mental maturity.
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Irene de Villiers
Sent: 15 August 2013 10:04
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] before and after a TOOTH EXTRACTION
I don't know why that old wives tale is still going around.

I consider it the other way round - NO surgery should be done without arnica beforehand.
A SINGLE dose will not increase or cause bleeding, and it WILL prevent any shock, which is a much higher risk with any anesthetic (especially general anesthesia).

[I base this on daily use of Arnica in practice at a vet clinic for about 5 or 6 surgeries a day, 6 days a week for 2 years. I'll leave the math to you...Not one death in that time, whereas without Arnica the death from surgery complications is 1 or 2%. ALso no bleeding issues of course.]
It does not if you dose once.
It may if you dose ten times before surgery
Then too.
But more important before surgery.

As for bleeding, if anything, a single dose of Arnica prevents it.
However mistakes happen (with the surgical knife) and if bleeding occurs, the quickest and most effective first aid is calendula tincture on a pressure bandage. For example if a tooth extraction area bleeds profusely, put calendula on a gauze wad or some such thing and place it over the area and bite on it a while.
As long as a blood vessel is not cut lengthways significantly, that will stop even quite severe bleeding VERY fast.
Hope you never have a next time but if someone did, and had only one 30C Arnica, I'd make it aqueous and take a sip before and after surgery, it may skip the pain altogether.

I know about curved roots too, mine had gone diving under the roots of other molars. I STILL have a piece of broken dental tool in there 40 years later.... I do not know why they call such teeth "wise"

Namaste,
Irene

REPLY TO: > only
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Irene de Villiers]

Yeah t - LOL
It sure is when the individual THINKS they are so very all knowing:-)

Rafy - I use Arn when I get to the Dentist office. Timing is not critical IMO.

......Irene

REPLY TO: only
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Roger B]

I thought that they were called wisdom teeth because of the wisdom that one developed from the pain of extraction.

Roger
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To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: tamarque@earthlink.net
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 06:39:21 -0400
Subject: Re: [Minutus] before and after a TOOTH EXTRACTION
I suspect they are called wisdom teeth due to the time they come in—at an age of supposed wisdom
in growing up
t
From: Irene de Villiers
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 5:03 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] before and after a TOOTH EXTRACTION
I don't know why that old wives tale is still going around.

I consider it the other way round - NO surgery should be done without arnica beforehand.
A SINGLE dose will not increase or cause bleeding, and it WILL prevent any shock, which is a much higher risk with any anesthetic (especially general anesthesia).

[I base this on daily use of Arnica in practice at a vet clinic for about 5 or 6 surgeries a day, 6 days a week for 2 years. I'll leave the math to you...Not one death in that time, whereas without Arnica the death from surgery complications is 1 or 2%. ALso no bleeding issues of course.]
It does not if you dose once.
It may if you dose ten times before surgery
Then too.
But more important before surgery.

As for bleeding, if anything, a single dose of Arnica prevents it.
However mistakes happen (with the surgical knife) and if bleeding occurs, the quickest and most effective first aid is calendula tincture on a pressure bandage. For example if a tooth extraction area bleeds profusely, put calendula on a gauze wad or some such thing and place it over the area and bite on it a while.
As long as a blood vessel is not cut lengthways significantly, that will stop even quite severe bleeding VERY fast.
Hope you never have a next time but if someone did, and had only one 30C Arnica, I'd make it aqueous and take a sip before and after surgery, it may skip the pain altogether.

I know about curved roots too, mine had gone diving under the roots of other molars. I STILL have a piece of broken dental tool in there 40 years later.... I do not know why they call such teeth "wise"

Namaste,
Irene

REPLY TO: only
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Dr.Roy]

Rafy
Well arnica is not specifically associated with thinning of blood. It’s actually associated with blood clotting mechanism. The actual situation is in condition where there is only redness present on the site of injury or affection. Usually after injury the site shows signs of inflammation and later heals on its own while arnica is for blunt traumas. Arnica makes blood to flow freely when it is accumulated at particular site.

If you want something for deliberately inflicted injuries (like surgery) then calendula is the similimum. And in this case where pain is associated with tooth extraction the CHAMOMILLA works marvellously.
In case of teeth surgery arnica will only help when after surgery gums get swollen and looks red with non-coagulated blood.

Before surgery arnica will help to reduce pain but bleeding will be more because clotting mechanism gets affected by arnica.

Please go through Materia Medica Pura and Theory of Chronic disease. It will help you to understand pattern of affection of each drug.
Dr. Roy
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of HomeoDidact
Sent: 14 August 2013 15:34
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Minutus] before and after a TOOTH EXTRACTION
Hi List member,
can you describe what and how you give remedy (or remedies) before and after

a tooth extraction?
also, what would you give for strong pain and BLEEDING after tooth extraction?
what do you think about what Vithoulkas said about Arnica that it isnot suitable in this situation as Arnica makes the blood thin?
many thanks in advance.
Rafy