Hi,
Is it permitted to prepare a LM remedy in a glass and cover it, and take a spoonful of it ten hours later?
I have just red a translation of what David Little said or wrote (?): that you must take the spoonful dose as soon as you prepare it!
Can the potency in the glass or in a bottle vanish???!
I always use water potency in c potencies and it works well at least for 24 hours.
TIA
Rafy
Taking LMs in delay
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Maria Bohle
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Re: Taking LMs in delay
Hello. I have often had a patient mix their remedy. Take a dose and take a second dose from the same cup later in the day. I do not believe it looses potency. However you are not raising the energy of the whole solution. I only use it to see how much of the remedy the patient needs to get through the day. Thus if he needs two or three teaspoons I will tell him to remake the dilution from the bottle and take two teaspoons the next day and do that once a day.
I have had frugal patients who did this all the time - it makes case management a little more difficult as we cannot move them upwards in potency as frequently as they may need. I usually try to tell them there is only so much energy in a bottle like with a battery, when it is used up that is it and they will need a stronger remedy when it stops working whether it takes one dose or thirty doses ( 8 ounce stock bottle).warmly, Maria
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I have had frugal patients who did this all the time - it makes case management a little more difficult as we cannot move them upwards in potency as frequently as they may need. I usually try to tell them there is only so much energy in a bottle like with a battery, when it is used up that is it and they will need a stronger remedy when it stops working whether it takes one dose or thirty doses ( 8 ounce stock bottle).warmly, Maria
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healthinfo6
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Re: Taking LMs in delay
I take LMs almost daily for the past 1.5 years and have experimented with how I take them.
Main rule I follow is the dilution glass you prepare is only good for 24 hours.
Don't see any reason you can't prep the glass first and take a dose later, as long as it's under 24 hours.
Usually after 20 hours, if I'm going to take a 2nd dose, I prep a new glass.
The dose taken later in the day works just as well for me as the one taken when first made.
I usually prep and take one teaspoon and would wait 12 hours to take another one or 1/2 teaspoon if I feel I need it. The 12 hour rule is from Dr. Luc but cautioned with only if needed.
Sometimes I'll take 1/2 teaspoon first and maybe later another 1/2.
I've found, with antipsorics, more that one teaspoon per day can lead quickly to aggravations.
With nosodes, I can take at least 2 teaspoons spread out without problems.
Also important is how many succussions you give to the stock bottle before prepping the dilution glass. Generally I find 6-8 strong ones banged against a rubber mouse pad is in the right range for me.
Too little, less effect, over 8 and I may be overstimulated.
Think of the dilution class as a cup of tea, strongest when first made, it's still tea after 24 hours but it becomes stale, flat as it sits.
Susan
Main rule I follow is the dilution glass you prepare is only good for 24 hours.
Don't see any reason you can't prep the glass first and take a dose later, as long as it's under 24 hours.
Usually after 20 hours, if I'm going to take a 2nd dose, I prep a new glass.
The dose taken later in the day works just as well for me as the one taken when first made.
I usually prep and take one teaspoon and would wait 12 hours to take another one or 1/2 teaspoon if I feel I need it. The 12 hour rule is from Dr. Luc but cautioned with only if needed.
Sometimes I'll take 1/2 teaspoon first and maybe later another 1/2.
I've found, with antipsorics, more that one teaspoon per day can lead quickly to aggravations.
With nosodes, I can take at least 2 teaspoons spread out without problems.
Also important is how many succussions you give to the stock bottle before prepping the dilution glass. Generally I find 6-8 strong ones banged against a rubber mouse pad is in the right range for me.
Too little, less effect, over 8 and I may be overstimulated.
Think of the dilution class as a cup of tea, strongest when first made, it's still tea after 24 hours but it becomes stale, flat as it sits.
Susan
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Shannon Nelson
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Re: Taking LMs in delay
Interesting!
Have you tested out letting the prepared cup sit for more than 24 hours?
I had assumed the issue is simply that you don't want to repeat the same (except for stirring) potency for longer than that, not that it actually *loses* potency. (I wouldn't expect it to *lose* potency…) Have you tried that?
Have you tested out letting the prepared cup sit for more than 24 hours?
I had assumed the issue is simply that you don't want to repeat the same (except for stirring) potency for longer than that, not that it actually *loses* potency. (I wouldn't expect it to *lose* potency…) Have you tried that?
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Irene de Villiers
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Re: Taking LMs in delay
Why?
What do you think happens suddenly after 24 hrs?
......Irene
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What do you think happens suddenly after 24 hrs?
......Irene
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Re: Taking LMs in delay
Dear Maria,
Thank you very much!
Regards.
Rafy
ב-26 במאי 2013, בשעה 18:24, Maria Bohle > כתב/ה:
Thank you very much!
Regards.
Rafy
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healthinfo6
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Re: Taking LMs in delay
Hi Shannon,
I'm trying to stay as close to how I interpret Hahnemann as possible and he says to throw out dilution cup after a day.
Organon 6th Editiion, Aph 248
Each such prepared glass must be made fresh daily. the globule of the high potency is best crushed in a few grains of sugar of milk which the patient can put in the vial and be dissolved in the requisite quantity of water.
Also it can be dangerous to take doses after 24 hours from same cup, at least continuously. I've accidently taken a dose after 24 hours and don't feel occasionally it will do irreparable harm.
Since I've experienced minor and MAJOR aggravations by not following Hahnemann, using the same cup after 24 hours I won't experiment with. Size of dose, succussions, # of doses from a 24 hour or less dilution cup I will.
Susan
Organon 6th edition, Aph 247 and FN 1
It is impractical to repeat the same unchanged dose of a remedy once, not to mention its frequent repetition (and at short intervals in order not to delay the cure). The vital principle does not accept such unchanged doses without resistance, that is, without other symptoms of the medicine to manifest themselves than those similar to the disease to be cured, because the former dose has already accomplished the expected change in the vital principle and a second dynamically wholly similar, unchanged dose of the same medicine no longer finds, therefore, the same conditions of the vital force. The patient may indeed be made sick in another way by receiving other such unchanged doses, even sicker than he was, for now only those symptoms of the given remedy remain active which were not homœopathic to the original disease, hence no step towards cure can follow, only a true aggravation of the condition of the patient. But if the succeeding dose is changed slightly every time, namely potentized somewhat higher (§§ 269-270) then the vital principle may be altered without difficulty by the same medicine (the sensation of natural disease diminishing) and thus the cure brought nearer.1
1 We ought not even with the best chosen homœopathic medicine, for instance one pellet of the same potency that was beneficial at first, to let the patient have a second or third dose, taken dry. In the same way, if the medicine was dissolved in water and the first dose proved beneficial, a second or third and even smaller dose from the bottle standing undisturbed, even in intervals of a few days, would prove no longer beneficial, even though the original preparation had been potentized with ten succussions or as I suggested later with but two succussions in order to obviate this disadvantage and this according to above reasons. But through modification of every dose in its dynamiztion degree, as I herewith teach, there exists no offence, even if the doses be repeated more frequently, even if the medicine be ever so highly potentized with ever so many succussions. It almost seems as if the best selected homœopathic remedy could best extract the morbid disorder from the vital force and in chronic disease to extinguish the same only if applied in several different forms.
I'm trying to stay as close to how I interpret Hahnemann as possible and he says to throw out dilution cup after a day.
Organon 6th Editiion, Aph 248
Each such prepared glass must be made fresh daily. the globule of the high potency is best crushed in a few grains of sugar of milk which the patient can put in the vial and be dissolved in the requisite quantity of water.
Also it can be dangerous to take doses after 24 hours from same cup, at least continuously. I've accidently taken a dose after 24 hours and don't feel occasionally it will do irreparable harm.
Since I've experienced minor and MAJOR aggravations by not following Hahnemann, using the same cup after 24 hours I won't experiment with. Size of dose, succussions, # of doses from a 24 hour or less dilution cup I will.
Susan
Organon 6th edition, Aph 247 and FN 1
It is impractical to repeat the same unchanged dose of a remedy once, not to mention its frequent repetition (and at short intervals in order not to delay the cure). The vital principle does not accept such unchanged doses without resistance, that is, without other symptoms of the medicine to manifest themselves than those similar to the disease to be cured, because the former dose has already accomplished the expected change in the vital principle and a second dynamically wholly similar, unchanged dose of the same medicine no longer finds, therefore, the same conditions of the vital force. The patient may indeed be made sick in another way by receiving other such unchanged doses, even sicker than he was, for now only those symptoms of the given remedy remain active which were not homœopathic to the original disease, hence no step towards cure can follow, only a true aggravation of the condition of the patient. But if the succeeding dose is changed slightly every time, namely potentized somewhat higher (§§ 269-270) then the vital principle may be altered without difficulty by the same medicine (the sensation of natural disease diminishing) and thus the cure brought nearer.1
1 We ought not even with the best chosen homœopathic medicine, for instance one pellet of the same potency that was beneficial at first, to let the patient have a second or third dose, taken dry. In the same way, if the medicine was dissolved in water and the first dose proved beneficial, a second or third and even smaller dose from the bottle standing undisturbed, even in intervals of a few days, would prove no longer beneficial, even though the original preparation had been potentized with ten succussions or as I suggested later with but two succussions in order to obviate this disadvantage and this according to above reasons. But through modification of every dose in its dynamiztion degree, as I herewith teach, there exists no offence, even if the doses be repeated more frequently, even if the medicine be ever so highly potentized with ever so many succussions. It almost seems as if the best selected homœopathic remedy could best extract the morbid disorder from the vital force and in chronic disease to extinguish the same only if applied in several different forms.