homosexuality and miasms.
Re: homosexuality and miasms.
Dear Susan,
Dr Vijayakar observed that based on the genetic make up of the patient,
when
he has given the Genetic Constitutional Similimum (GCS)- he found that
even their
sexual preferences changed to normalcy while the patient improved in all
other
respects strictly in accordance with Hering's laws of Cure. He also
observed
this happened when the Syphilitic miasm was treated with GCS and the
patient
reverted to either Sycotic or Psoric state. So he came to the conclusion
based on
a number of observation made in similar cases that homeosexuality is an
expression of syphilitic miasm. Now this is a scientific fact and has no
bearing
on your sexual preferences. How you accept/ reject it is your problem.
if this
piece of information is of any use while treating your patients, use it
ot throw it
out in the dust bin. If it is your contention that homeosexuality is
not an expression
of syphilitic miasm, then please tell us to which other miasm it
belongs ?
Have you any cases to support your contention. Till those patients
revealed
in subsequent followups to Dr VIjayakar about what changes occured in
their personalities, he was not
even knowing they were homosexuals. because unlike in your advanced
countries
no one in these third world countries would dare ask their patients
about their
sexual practices/ preferences / number of partners etc.,
hope this helps,
V T Yekkirala
INDIA
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, healthyinfo6@... wrote:
preclude me from using you in any capacity. Though, I live in the gay
ol' USA, others from more puritanical backgrounds or third world
countries may feel differently:
nature’s laws and all such cases can be cured with the GCS.
http://hpathy.com/homeopathy-papers/two ... ive-homeop\
athy-in-advanced-and-incurable-cases-a-review/
please
Dr Vijayakar observed that based on the genetic make up of the patient,
when
he has given the Genetic Constitutional Similimum (GCS)- he found that
even their
sexual preferences changed to normalcy while the patient improved in all
other
respects strictly in accordance with Hering's laws of Cure. He also
observed
this happened when the Syphilitic miasm was treated with GCS and the
patient
reverted to either Sycotic or Psoric state. So he came to the conclusion
based on
a number of observation made in similar cases that homeosexuality is an
expression of syphilitic miasm. Now this is a scientific fact and has no
bearing
on your sexual preferences. How you accept/ reject it is your problem.
if this
piece of information is of any use while treating your patients, use it
ot throw it
out in the dust bin. If it is your contention that homeosexuality is
not an expression
of syphilitic miasm, then please tell us to which other miasm it
belongs ?
Have you any cases to support your contention. Till those patients
revealed
in subsequent followups to Dr VIjayakar about what changes occured in
their personalities, he was not
even knowing they were homosexuals. because unlike in your advanced
countries
no one in these third world countries would dare ask their patients
about their
sexual practices/ preferences / number of partners etc.,
hope this helps,
V T Yekkirala
INDIA
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, healthyinfo6@... wrote:
preclude me from using you in any capacity. Though, I live in the gay
ol' USA, others from more puritanical backgrounds or third world
countries may feel differently:
nature’s laws and all such cases can be cured with the GCS.
http://hpathy.com/homeopathy-papers/two ... ive-homeop\
athy-in-advanced-and-incurable-cases-a-review/
please
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Re: homosexuality and miasms.
Has a homosexual gene even been identified?
EVERY homosexual is in the syphilltic miasm?
How many homosexuals have been treated and reversed with Predictive Homeopathy?
Especially in a repressed country like India where so many live in squalor.
he has given the Genetic Constitutional Similimum (GCS)- he found that
even their sexual preferences changed to normalcy while the patient improved in all
other
This is more like Forced Homeopathy, shock treatment, according to Dr Vijayakar's potency selection for homosexuals
50M for syphilitic : destructiveness, rage, perversion, sexual desire aversion (in reproductive age), Homosexuality etc
http://www.homeopathyworldcommunity.com ... of-potency
Predictive Homoeopathy is honoured by United Nations and given an opportunitiy to open a homoeopathy school in collaboration with United Nations.
Good reason for me to make a visit to the UN here in NYC.
Plus, in the USA, there are highly visible Gay/Lesbian/Transgender political groups who will descend on the UN when they find out they're funding a homophobic homeopath who thinks and states that homosexuality is perverse, against nature's laws and God, they will surely be forced to change their funding choice.
Just last week, President Obama called to congratulate the first pro athlete that came out as gay.
Google Shockley and see what happened to him and his genetic intelligence ideas when he went public.
I thought it very odd that you had approached me on the Homeopathy mailing list to take my case last year
My research at the time of your guru of Predictive Homeopathy showed his website from years ago with no cases no updates since early 2000s plus your gay god reference.
I also thought it odd for a homeopath of any value to go trolling for patients.
Now you're here advertising for cases. Usually homeopaths who do well develop a following.
Patients seek them out, not the reverse.
Susan
EVERY homosexual is in the syphilltic miasm?
How many homosexuals have been treated and reversed with Predictive Homeopathy?
Especially in a repressed country like India where so many live in squalor.
he has given the Genetic Constitutional Similimum (GCS)- he found that
even their sexual preferences changed to normalcy while the patient improved in all
other
This is more like Forced Homeopathy, shock treatment, according to Dr Vijayakar's potency selection for homosexuals
50M for syphilitic : destructiveness, rage, perversion, sexual desire aversion (in reproductive age), Homosexuality etc
http://www.homeopathyworldcommunity.com ... of-potency
Predictive Homoeopathy is honoured by United Nations and given an opportunitiy to open a homoeopathy school in collaboration with United Nations.
Good reason for me to make a visit to the UN here in NYC.
Plus, in the USA, there are highly visible Gay/Lesbian/Transgender political groups who will descend on the UN when they find out they're funding a homophobic homeopath who thinks and states that homosexuality is perverse, against nature's laws and God, they will surely be forced to change their funding choice.
Just last week, President Obama called to congratulate the first pro athlete that came out as gay.
Google Shockley and see what happened to him and his genetic intelligence ideas when he went public.
I thought it very odd that you had approached me on the Homeopathy mailing list to take my case last year
My research at the time of your guru of Predictive Homeopathy showed his website from years ago with no cases no updates since early 2000s plus your gay god reference.
I also thought it odd for a homeopath of any value to go trolling for patients.
Now you're here advertising for cases. Usually homeopaths who do well develop a following.
Patients seek them out, not the reverse.
Susan
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Re: homosexuality and miasms.
This subject comes up now and again
There are those who believe the only reason to engage in intercourse is to procreate.
So do we treat everyone who has ever had intercourse without the intent of producing a child?
Moral standards change from country to country, culture to culture, century to century, and indeed generation to generation.
No one has a right to bring their opinions and prejudices into the consulting room, because it is the homeopath's job
to be an unprejudiced observer. If you go in wearing blinders, how will you see?
A patient has a right to be respected and not to be judged. If the practitioner cannot respond on that level,
they need to refer the patient to someone who can.
When so called healers are judgmental and biased, it is no wonder there are so
many, living closeted lives. This is the lie they live due to the pain they feel coming from
some misguided beliefs stated in this thread.
We live in a society that needs scapegoats to take on everyone else’s fears etc.
When a homosexual client enters your office, and has the courage to be
honest with you and tell you this, then this is a golden opportunity for
you to expand your knowledge base, to learn about someone that you may
consider to be totally different from you. You will find that the person
is simply: a person just like you, with ordinary, everyday problems,
food cravings, annoyances when having to wait too long in line,
allergies in the fall, and a face that breaks out after eating chocolate.
You need to research the case and find the one of remedies that seems to fit this person.
Somebody considering themselves spiritual should be aware of the
practice of Ahimsa (the practice of not harming others). Somebody
steeped in homeopathic practice should be aware of the practice of being
non‑judgmental, and leave their prejudice and bigotry out of the
consulting room, or not take the case.
If the client does not have a problem with their homosexuality, there is
no need for treatment. If the client has a problem with their homosexuality then it our job, as
homeopaths, to help them find a way to find balance in their lives.
Christianity, Social Tolerance, and Homosexuality, printed 1980 is a
book that convincingly demonstrates that many arguments used to support
homophobic views are based on mistranslations and misinterpretations of
the scriptures. Interpretations are often erroneous.
In My Guru and His Disciple, Christopher Isherwood, author of I The Camera,
and The Berlin Stories, recalls how he first met Swami Prahbavananda of the
Hollywood Vedanta Society, and then studied with him, more or less, for thirty years.
That Isherwood was gay did not faze the Swami at all.
When Isherwood finally confessed to his guru that he had a male lover,
the Swami told him to treat his lover as "the young Lord Krishna"
In hopes that we can all love as we wish,
Lynn
Imagine Peace
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Imagine Peace
http://www.homeopathicsolutions.blogspot.com/
There are those who believe the only reason to engage in intercourse is to procreate.
So do we treat everyone who has ever had intercourse without the intent of producing a child?
Moral standards change from country to country, culture to culture, century to century, and indeed generation to generation.
No one has a right to bring their opinions and prejudices into the consulting room, because it is the homeopath's job
to be an unprejudiced observer. If you go in wearing blinders, how will you see?
A patient has a right to be respected and not to be judged. If the practitioner cannot respond on that level,
they need to refer the patient to someone who can.
When so called healers are judgmental and biased, it is no wonder there are so
many, living closeted lives. This is the lie they live due to the pain they feel coming from
some misguided beliefs stated in this thread.
We live in a society that needs scapegoats to take on everyone else’s fears etc.
When a homosexual client enters your office, and has the courage to be
honest with you and tell you this, then this is a golden opportunity for
you to expand your knowledge base, to learn about someone that you may
consider to be totally different from you. You will find that the person
is simply: a person just like you, with ordinary, everyday problems,
food cravings, annoyances when having to wait too long in line,
allergies in the fall, and a face that breaks out after eating chocolate.
You need to research the case and find the one of remedies that seems to fit this person.
Somebody considering themselves spiritual should be aware of the
practice of Ahimsa (the practice of not harming others). Somebody
steeped in homeopathic practice should be aware of the practice of being
non‑judgmental, and leave their prejudice and bigotry out of the
consulting room, or not take the case.
If the client does not have a problem with their homosexuality, there is
no need for treatment. If the client has a problem with their homosexuality then it our job, as
homeopaths, to help them find a way to find balance in their lives.
Christianity, Social Tolerance, and Homosexuality, printed 1980 is a
book that convincingly demonstrates that many arguments used to support
homophobic views are based on mistranslations and misinterpretations of
the scriptures. Interpretations are often erroneous.
In My Guru and His Disciple, Christopher Isherwood, author of I The Camera,
and The Berlin Stories, recalls how he first met Swami Prahbavananda of the
Hollywood Vedanta Society, and then studied with him, more or less, for thirty years.
That Isherwood was gay did not faze the Swami at all.
When Isherwood finally confessed to his guru that he had a male lover,
the Swami told him to treat his lover as "the young Lord Krishna"
In hopes that we can all love as we wish,
Lynn
Imagine Peace
________________________________
--
Imagine Peace
http://www.homeopathicsolutions.blogspot.com/
Re: homosexuality and miasms.
I believe i've brought this up before on this group. I'm going to mention it
again. My daughter in law has three sisters, two of them are gay. The whole
family participated in a government run genetic testing program which was done
only on families where more than one of the siblings was gay. They found
genetic differences in the two gay sisters. Both sisters are happily married
and have children with their same sex spouses using the eggs of one of the
couples and sperm from a sperm donor place. Thank god they are not interested
in homeopathy whereby their gene dynamics might undergo a change and ruin
their happy families.
again. My daughter in law has three sisters, two of them are gay. The whole
family participated in a government run genetic testing program which was done
only on families where more than one of the siblings was gay. They found
genetic differences in the two gay sisters. Both sisters are happily married
and have children with their same sex spouses using the eggs of one of the
couples and sperm from a sperm donor place. Thank god they are not interested
in homeopathy whereby their gene dynamics might undergo a change and ruin
their happy families.
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Re: homosexuality and miasms.
Thank you Carol. This makes such good sense. When I was studying homeopathy I read somewhere if a person was born a miser no remedy would ever change them. But if they became a miser due to some kind of pathology a remedy could bring him back to normal. The same with psychic ability.
As usual in our discipline we treat what our patient needs to help them return to their normal state. Not to what we think they should be. Warmly. Maria
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As usual in our discipline we treat what our patient needs to help them return to their normal state. Not to what we think they should be. Warmly. Maria
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Re: homosexuality and miasms.
I was taught the same thing. Simply put, and repeating, we need to be
the ‘unbiased observer.’ That is it in a nutshell. Homeopathy does not
change the core of the person, only imbalances brought on by damaging
experiences.
t
From: Maria Bohle
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 5:40 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Re: homosexuality and miasms.
Thank you Carol. This makes such good sense. When I was studying homeopathy I read somewhere if a person was born a miser no remedy would ever change them. But if they became a miser due to some kind of pathology a remedy could bring him back to normal. The same with psychic ability.
As usual in our discipline we treat what our patient needs to help them return to their normal state. Not to what we think they should be. Warmly. Maria
Sent from my iPhone
the ‘unbiased observer.’ That is it in a nutshell. Homeopathy does not
change the core of the person, only imbalances brought on by damaging
experiences.
t
From: Maria Bohle
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 5:40 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Re: homosexuality and miasms.
Thank you Carol. This makes such good sense. When I was studying homeopathy I read somewhere if a person was born a miser no remedy would ever change them. But if they became a miser due to some kind of pathology a remedy could bring him back to normal. The same with psychic ability.
As usual in our discipline we treat what our patient needs to help them return to their normal state. Not to what we think they should be. Warmly. Maria
Sent from my iPhone
Re: homosexuality and miasms.
Dear Susan,
You wrote :
"I thought it very odd that you had approached me on the Homeopathy mailing list to take my case last year.My research at the time of your guru of Predictive Homeopathy showed his website from years ago with no cases no updates since early 2000s plus your gay god reference.
I also thought it odd for a homeopath of any value to go trolling for patients.
Now you're here advertising for cases. Usually homeopaths who do well develop a following.
Patients seek them out, not the reverse."
You made the above baseless and unsubstantiated allegations about me and I feel compelled to justify my professional conduct to the list members by pasting below relevant extracts of our correspondence on this issue so they can decide who is scouting for whom. As you have not agreed to stop using alternation of remedies and I was unrelenting on that, the matter ended there. And also please remember, for all the time I had spent analyzing your case in addition to answering your lengthy personal emails, you have not paid me a single penny nor have I asked you. This kind of bullying and arm-twisting tactics now adopted by you, by diverting discussion from the main topic to a totally unrelated issue, greatly pained me. With this I rest the matter here and have no inclination on prolonging this, as it is a severe drain on my limited resources. I have nothing but pity on you.
Take care,
V T Yekkirala
INDIA.
From:
V.T. Yekkirala (vtyekkirala@hotmail.com)
Sent:
Fri 7/27/12 8:19 PM
To:
healthyinfo6@aol.com
Hi,
after reading your emails, I could not figure out if you wanted just to
share your experience, or wanted suggestions on miasmatic prescribing.
If it is the former, sorry for my chipping in at this late stage of your
correspondence on this issue; but if it is the later, let me know your case details
without which no remedy suggestion is possible...
From:
healthyinfo6@aol.com
Sent:
Sat 7/28/12 3:30 PM
To:
vtyekkirala@hotmail.com
Hi Dr. Yekkirala,
Thank you so much for writing. I wanted to share my experiences online, as I have been doing so for many years, and also was hoping someone like yourself might take interest and provide miasmatic prescribing suggestions or even take my case..Please inform me if you feel you are able help further my homeopathic treatment that may alleviate diabetes and what your $ charges are.
Please keep in mind that I can not go off of Calc Carb LM without negative consquences, I would have to restart lithium, but can use 200C and other potencies simultaneously
From:
V.T. Yekkirala (vtyekkirala@hotmail.com)
Sent:
Sat 7/28/12 9:03 PM
To:
healthyinfo6@aol.com
Hi,
.. .. ..
Calc carb as it proved now is working as a partial smm and suppressing your case. ..instead of totally annhilating the disease in its whole extent...
You can't ride on two boats at the same time. And if you are prepared to stop Calc
swithing over to Lithium temporarily to tide over the bipolar phase, and start using
the remedies as prescribed by me, I can take up your case. .. . .
So you may consider this and take a decision as suits you.
best,
V.T
From:
V.T. Yekkirala (vtyekkirala@hotmail.com)
Sent:
Sun 7/29/12 8:54 PM
To:
bipolar diabetic (healthyinfo6@aol.com)
Hi,
I can understand your genuine concerns to stop Calc and regarding other issues
pls find my answers interpolated in your email below.
V T
.. ... ..
Not clear if you are suggesting there is a better constitutional or that another partial one needed for diabetes. Calc Carb has brought me back to life when too many Sulphur doses severely debiliated and weakened my vital force and most recently when the Tyto Alba made me worse, with losing bladder control.and also weakened my vital force. ..
Yes, there is a constitutional remedy, that needs to be worked out and it is obvious. Using one remedy for diabetes and another for bipolar is not homeopathy, since you have only one vital force and we can't segment it..
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, healthyinfo6@... wrote:
You wrote :
"I thought it very odd that you had approached me on the Homeopathy mailing list to take my case last year.My research at the time of your guru of Predictive Homeopathy showed his website from years ago with no cases no updates since early 2000s plus your gay god reference.
I also thought it odd for a homeopath of any value to go trolling for patients.
Now you're here advertising for cases. Usually homeopaths who do well develop a following.
Patients seek them out, not the reverse."
You made the above baseless and unsubstantiated allegations about me and I feel compelled to justify my professional conduct to the list members by pasting below relevant extracts of our correspondence on this issue so they can decide who is scouting for whom. As you have not agreed to stop using alternation of remedies and I was unrelenting on that, the matter ended there. And also please remember, for all the time I had spent analyzing your case in addition to answering your lengthy personal emails, you have not paid me a single penny nor have I asked you. This kind of bullying and arm-twisting tactics now adopted by you, by diverting discussion from the main topic to a totally unrelated issue, greatly pained me. With this I rest the matter here and have no inclination on prolonging this, as it is a severe drain on my limited resources. I have nothing but pity on you.
Take care,
V T Yekkirala
INDIA.
From:
V.T. Yekkirala (vtyekkirala@hotmail.com)
Sent:
Fri 7/27/12 8:19 PM
To:
healthyinfo6@aol.com
Hi,
after reading your emails, I could not figure out if you wanted just to
share your experience, or wanted suggestions on miasmatic prescribing.
If it is the former, sorry for my chipping in at this late stage of your
correspondence on this issue; but if it is the later, let me know your case details
without which no remedy suggestion is possible...
From:
healthyinfo6@aol.com
Sent:
Sat 7/28/12 3:30 PM
To:
vtyekkirala@hotmail.com
Hi Dr. Yekkirala,
Thank you so much for writing. I wanted to share my experiences online, as I have been doing so for many years, and also was hoping someone like yourself might take interest and provide miasmatic prescribing suggestions or even take my case..Please inform me if you feel you are able help further my homeopathic treatment that may alleviate diabetes and what your $ charges are.
Please keep in mind that I can not go off of Calc Carb LM without negative consquences, I would have to restart lithium, but can use 200C and other potencies simultaneously
From:
V.T. Yekkirala (vtyekkirala@hotmail.com)
Sent:
Sat 7/28/12 9:03 PM
To:
healthyinfo6@aol.com
Hi,
.. .. ..
Calc carb as it proved now is working as a partial smm and suppressing your case. ..instead of totally annhilating the disease in its whole extent...
You can't ride on two boats at the same time. And if you are prepared to stop Calc
swithing over to Lithium temporarily to tide over the bipolar phase, and start using
the remedies as prescribed by me, I can take up your case. .. . .
So you may consider this and take a decision as suits you.
best,
V.T
From:
V.T. Yekkirala (vtyekkirala@hotmail.com)
Sent:
Sun 7/29/12 8:54 PM
To:
bipolar diabetic (healthyinfo6@aol.com)
Hi,
I can understand your genuine concerns to stop Calc and regarding other issues
pls find my answers interpolated in your email below.
V T
.. ... ..
Not clear if you are suggesting there is a better constitutional or that another partial one needed for diabetes. Calc Carb has brought me back to life when too many Sulphur doses severely debiliated and weakened my vital force and most recently when the Tyto Alba made me worse, with losing bladder control.and also weakened my vital force. ..
Yes, there is a constitutional remedy, that needs to be worked out and it is obvious. Using one remedy for diabetes and another for bipolar is not homeopathy, since you have only one vital force and we can't segment it..
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, healthyinfo6@... wrote:
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homosexuality and miasms.
If you're going to illegally and Unprofessionally post private correspondence between us, post ALL of it, not just a part of it to make your one sided point:
When YOU initially contacted ME, you also wrote...
While you related your genetic make up
like obesity from childhood, your bi-polar history , which again is not clear if it is
inherited etc. As an individual what you are, your mental make up is essential
for finding out what remedy would help you, miasmatically.
Perhaps some information on what miasmatic prescribing means may be found
from a seminar review I posted in the December journal of hpathy.com at:
http://hpathy.com/journal/homeopathy-4- ... mber-2011/
Click on the link to read my article:
Two Day Seminar on Predictive Homeopathy in Advanced and Incurable Cases – A Review -
V.T. Yekkirala
If you want any further help, pls feel free to email me, but it may be a while before
you can get any response from me.
with best wishes,
V.T.Yekkirala.
HYDERABAD
INDIA
Since YOU volunteered, I wanted to find out how much YOU charge for your work
I wasn't looking for nor expecting a freebie.
At the time, I was looking for a new homeopath but never initiated contact with you.
YOU initiated contact with me.
Then, after reading the Predictive Homeopathy stuff, I saw how YOU would not be a good homeopath for ME because of the lack of and dated info from your link on Predictive Homeopathy
PLUS
In addition, I read your homophobic style post on Hpathy, that homosexuality is perverse against nature's laws and God that Predictive Homeopathy and you seem to believe and promote.
That is why I did not reply any further. Not your false assertion that I needed to stop alternating remedies before you would take my case.
I have NO idea how much research you did on my case, I NEVER asked you to, you NEVER took my full case, just from what you read on my public posts.
When YOU appeared here on Minutus, just since Februrary, after an absence from 2010, I said to myself, let's see how long until you start offering your "services" and voila, you did.
It seems your primary agenda is to push Predictive Homeopathy.
Since PH promotes "curing" homosexuality,
it is imperative anyone thinking of using your services be made aware of that fact.
It's not unrelated, it's totally synchronistic.
Susan
When YOU initially contacted ME, you also wrote...
While you related your genetic make up
like obesity from childhood, your bi-polar history , which again is not clear if it is
inherited etc. As an individual what you are, your mental make up is essential
for finding out what remedy would help you, miasmatically.
Perhaps some information on what miasmatic prescribing means may be found
from a seminar review I posted in the December journal of hpathy.com at:
http://hpathy.com/journal/homeopathy-4- ... mber-2011/
Click on the link to read my article:
Two Day Seminar on Predictive Homeopathy in Advanced and Incurable Cases – A Review -
V.T. Yekkirala
If you want any further help, pls feel free to email me, but it may be a while before
you can get any response from me.
with best wishes,
V.T.Yekkirala.
HYDERABAD
INDIA
Since YOU volunteered, I wanted to find out how much YOU charge for your work
I wasn't looking for nor expecting a freebie.
At the time, I was looking for a new homeopath but never initiated contact with you.
YOU initiated contact with me.
Then, after reading the Predictive Homeopathy stuff, I saw how YOU would not be a good homeopath for ME because of the lack of and dated info from your link on Predictive Homeopathy
PLUS
In addition, I read your homophobic style post on Hpathy, that homosexuality is perverse against nature's laws and God that Predictive Homeopathy and you seem to believe and promote.
That is why I did not reply any further. Not your false assertion that I needed to stop alternating remedies before you would take my case.
I have NO idea how much research you did on my case, I NEVER asked you to, you NEVER took my full case, just from what you read on my public posts.
When YOU appeared here on Minutus, just since Februrary, after an absence from 2010, I said to myself, let's see how long until you start offering your "services" and voila, you did.
It seems your primary agenda is to push Predictive Homeopathy.
Since PH promotes "curing" homosexuality,
it is imperative anyone thinking of using your services be made aware of that fact.
It's not unrelated, it's totally synchronistic.
Susan
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Re: homosexuality and miasms.
Hi,
To put your question on more culturally more neutral grounds let me make a few suggestions. I don't think your question is limited to sexual preferences.
1. Sexual preferences range from cultural to DNA. So you are talking about a broad spectrum.
2. I personally would not take responsibility for my patients free choices after they have taken a remedy. I do not take responsiblity for divorce and unethical acts of my patients etc. If a patient seemed to be more apt to take his life after a remedy, certainly I would change that remedy. If a patient comitted suicide following a remedy, I could imagine feeling terrible. But could I take complete responsiblity? Certainly, less lethal and less predictable actions following a remedy are not my responsibility. I have been in the middle of divorce or a spouse cheating during a consitutional remedy. The remedy certainly helped the situation, but it did not cause it. Changes in feelings about personal ID and social standards are common during remedy taking. One has to trust one's patient and just follow them through the change. It is not our job to judge them. The vital force is neutral in these culturally dense areas. George Vithoukas said "the vital force wants quality of life not necessary length of life." If this means that the vital force is looking for the best balance with the individual, this make sense. Individual balance may not fit cultural standards, or the interestes of certain sectors of society. But we as homeopaths are supporting the individual vital force. To me, even love for my children is like this. I am for them, not necessarily for all of society. It is a very biased position.
Best,
Ellen Madono
From:
V.T. Yekkirala (vtyekkirala@hotmail.com )
Sent:
Fri 7/27/12 8:19 PM
To:
healthyinfo6@aol.com
From:
healthyinfo6@aol.com
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V.T. Yekkirala (vtyekkirala@hotmail.com )
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bipolar diabetic (healthyinfo6@aol.com )
To put your question on more culturally more neutral grounds let me make a few suggestions. I don't think your question is limited to sexual preferences.
1. Sexual preferences range from cultural to DNA. So you are talking about a broad spectrum.
2. I personally would not take responsibility for my patients free choices after they have taken a remedy. I do not take responsiblity for divorce and unethical acts of my patients etc. If a patient seemed to be more apt to take his life after a remedy, certainly I would change that remedy. If a patient comitted suicide following a remedy, I could imagine feeling terrible. But could I take complete responsiblity? Certainly, less lethal and less predictable actions following a remedy are not my responsibility. I have been in the middle of divorce or a spouse cheating during a consitutional remedy. The remedy certainly helped the situation, but it did not cause it. Changes in feelings about personal ID and social standards are common during remedy taking. One has to trust one's patient and just follow them through the change. It is not our job to judge them. The vital force is neutral in these culturally dense areas. George Vithoukas said "the vital force wants quality of life not necessary length of life." If this means that the vital force is looking for the best balance with the individual, this make sense. Individual balance may not fit cultural standards, or the interestes of certain sectors of society. But we as homeopaths are supporting the individual vital force. To me, even love for my children is like this. I am for them, not necessarily for all of society. It is a very biased position.
Best,
Ellen Madono
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Re: homosexuality and miasms.
Dear Susan,
Please read my comments interspersed in between "your comments" enclosed in quotation marks as shown below.
You commented:
"If you're going to illegally and Unprofessionally post private correspondence between us, post ALL of it, not just a part of it to make your one sided point:"
It is strange that you are leveling charges that in the first place apply to you because it is you who first started all this, posted my private email to you and committed breach of privilege and implied mutual trust. Regarding your request to post ALL of our correspondence, it is not acceptable to me because I suspect you are not making this in a sound state of mind. How else can I take it because your emails to me consist of personal and intimate details of your past life since your childhood days and no patient in a sound state of mind would request that all her personal medical records be made public. In my earlier post, I have taken care to include only that portion of the email that is relevant to proving that you approached me in a private email dt 7/28/12, hoping that I might take interest and provide miasmatic suggestions or even take up your case. In your own words, your expectations while sharing your experiences on the list is that someone like me may provide you help either gratis (miasmatic suggestions only) or take up your case (duly charging you for the professional services). But when your expectations bear fruit, you want to say you are not the cause of initiation of this whole process. A very strange attitude indeed. That extract from your email is again posted below. [The relevant rubrics for this state of your mind are: MIND - CONTRADICTORY - actions are contradictory to intentions; MIND - WILL - contradiction of; MIND - WILL - two wills; sensation as if he had ]
[From:
healthyinfo6@aol.com
Sent:
Sat 7/28/12 3:30 PM
To:
vtyekkirala@hotmail.com
Hi Dr. Yekkirala,
Thank you so much for writing. I wanted to share my experiences online, as I have been doing so for many years, and also was hoping someone like yourself might take interest and provide miasmatic prescribing suggestions or even take my case..Please inform me if you feel you are able help further my homeopathic treatment that may alleviate diabetes and what your $ charges are.]
" When YOU initially contacted ME, you also wrote...
While you related your genetic make up
like obesity from childhood, your bi-polar history , which again is not clear if it is
inherited etc. As an individual what you are, your mental make up is essential
for finding out what remedy would help you, miasmatically.
Perhaps some information on what miasmatic prescribing means may be found
from a seminar review I posted in the December journal of hpathy.com at:
http://hpathy.com/journal/homeopathy-4- ... mber-2011/
Click on the link to read my article:
Two Day Seminar on Predictive Homeopathy in Advanced and Incurable Cases â?" A Review -
If you want any further help, pls feel free to email me, but it may be a while before
you can get any response from me.
with best wishes,
V.T.Yekkirala.
HYDERABAD
INDIA "
"Since YOU volunteered, I wanted to find out how much YOU charge for your work
I wasn't looking for nor expecting a freebie.
At the time, I was looking for a new homeopath but never initiated contact with you.
YOU initiated contact with me.
Then, after reading the Predictive Homeopathy stuff, I saw how YOU would not be a good homeopath for ME because of the lack of and dated info from your link on Predictive Homeopathy
PLUS
In addition, I read your homophobic style post on Hpathy, that homosexuality is perverse against nature's laws and God that Predictive Homeopathy and you seem to believe and promote.
That is why I did not reply any further. Not your false assertion that I needed to stop alternating remedies before you would take my case.
How am I to know why you abruptly ended correspondence unless and untill you tell me. In the absence of any further communication from you, that is the only logical conclusion that anyone can draw from what you wrote in your emails to me. I appreciate your genuine concerns about reversal of your sexual preferences at this age and stage of your life and thanks for sharing this concern though belatedly. But this belated explanation of yours does not explain why you have not asked for clarification on this aspect, in the beginning itself along with so many other questions you wrote to me. I had sent all the links to my seminar report in my very first email to you. Is it the case that you were initially prepared for losing your homosexuality as a bargain for getting rid of your Bi-polar, but due to a second thoughts on the possible repercussions, you decided against your earlier decision and so abruptly stopped correspondence with me? However I respect your health choices and have no more comments to offer on this aspect. Propriety demands that you should have informed me there and then, what you chose to reveal now belatedly and in the most inappropriate way and that too on a public forum [Relevant rubrics for this state of your mind are: MIND - ABRUPT - harsh; and MIND - INDISCRETION; MIND - SECRETIVE; and MIND - NAKED, wants to be; and MIND - CHAOTIC ]
"I have NO idea how much research you did on my case, I NEVER asked you to, you NEVER took my full case, just from what you read on my public posts.
You are a liar. You did send me your case details in your emails to me, but whether everything you wrote in those emails is already posted in your public posts or not, I go by your statement and mind you - this statement of yours will be binding on you. I happened to read just one or two of your posts on the list when it all sounded as if I am hearing a cry for help in wilderness and thought I must do my own bit to see if I can help you. As it turned out you are a capricious cry baby. Regarding my taking your full case it never arose, because you abruptly stopped communicating with me when I insisted in my email dt 7/29/12 that you must be agreeing to stop alternation of remedies. [ Relevant rubrics for this state of your mind are : MIND - LIAR - lies, never speaks the truth, does not know what she is saying; MIND - CAPRICIOUSNESS - rejecting the things for which he has been longing; when offered, he is; MIND - ANSWERING - aversion to answer - sings, talks, but will not answer questions; MIND - ABRUPT - harsh]
"When YOU appeared here on Minutus, just since Februrary, after an absence from 2010, I said to myself, let's see how long until you start offering your "services" and voila, you did."
This is spine chilling and hair raising experience for me to hear this from you. I myself had no statistics of when I visited different discussion groups of which I am a member- just don't have time to do it. My wife and I, both lost sleep on your statement, as my wife is envious that there is someone else who is taking more interest in my activities and services than she. I can hear your chuckles as you read this, but all this betrays your lack of understanding of why a public forum is established and why members join it. Perhaps you feel, only you have the exclusive right of using the list, for tormenting everyone with your complaints no-end and when someone like me extends a helping hand in good faith, you derive your sadistic and cynical pleasure in trying to humiliate him or her in the way you have been doing for many years. As some members wrote to me in private, you were called a stalker and I referred the dictionary for its meaning. Your own confession as noted above shows you truly deserve that title. [Relevant rubrics for this state of your mind are: MIND - CUNNING; MIND - THOUGHTS - persistent - murder, fire and rats; of nothing but; MIND - ANXIETY - hypochondriacal - read books; mania to - medical books; MIND - TORMENTING - others - day and night; Mind - ANXIETY, general - evening - as evening comes on (in this last rubric evening may be taken to mean evening in one's own life and not necessarily the daily evening) ]
"In addition, I read your homophobic style post on Hpathy, that homosexuality is perverse against nature's laws and God that Predictive Homeopathy and you seem to believe and promote."..
"It seems your primary agenda is to push Predictive Homeopathy.
Since PH promotes "curing" homosexuality,"
This again is your perverted interpretation. PH or for that matter any school of homeopathy can't promote curing or inducing homosexuality. The power of GCS is such that it works with equal effect whether you are a staunch believer of GOD/ DEVIL/ NATURE or an atheist, and irrespective of your nationality/ religion/ race/ gender/ species of animal or plant kingdom. What the GCS does is stimulate the vital force and the vital force establishes order and normalizes functions and sensations at all levels. If the homosexuality or any other symptoms noted in the patient are not native and natural to that organism, they will be neutralized and cease to exist altogether as a process of restoration of health in a rapid, gentle and permanent way. It is immaterial whether you admire or abhor the symptoms disappearing as such because those aberrations of admiration or abhorrence are individual specific and not innate and we as homeopaths are trained to be unbiased observers of natural phenomenon as such, to intellectually understand its significance without emotional coloring or getting mixed up with our own desires/ aversions/ preferences and we are trained in these aspects while you are not so trained. Mere book reading, arm-chair philosophizing won't get you there unless you work and learn under the tutelage and personal supervision of a senior homeopath who was similarly trained in a clinical setting. And this is borne out by the fact that in some of the cases, reversal of homosexuality happened and a scientific fact is a fact whether it is to your liking or not. We as homeopaths are just facilitators in the intricate workings of nature stimulated by the GCS and beyond silently witnessing the power of the GCS, we have little control on the process itself. But whether it can do so in all cases of homosexuality and if not why not can only be known when more and more homeopaths begin sharing their experiences without fear of being ostracized by self-appointed messiahs like you.
"it is imperative anyone thinking of using your services be made aware of that fact.
It's not unrelated, it's totally synchronistic.
Susan"
Since you have not revealed that you are a homosexual till now, that question did not arise. Had you given me your full case, and revealed your sexual preferences, you would have been notified accordingly and the choice of whether to go in for GCS or just limit to your constitutional similimum etc., would have been discussed and the treatment tailor made to suit your requirements. Any way thanks for your suggestion. And also please note that the rubric suggestions made in brackets are not meant to be used by you for self-prescription and doing so would be at your own risk. Those are meant for the list members some of whom are interested in knowing how to translate the mental disposition into corresponding rubrics in the MIND chapter especially those who have studied Sehgal's School of Revolutionalized Homeopathy. Also please note my offer to treat you still stands no matter how much you praise me to the heaven (if there is one) or pin me down to the hell (if there is one) and my only condition to you is that you MUST stop all self-medication including all herbal supplements and other health fad foods. Susan, I volunteered to help you, not for the money you offer but the challenging nature of your case which only attracted me to respond - Believe It or Not.
V T Yekkirala
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, healthyinfo6@... wrote:
Please read my comments interspersed in between "your comments" enclosed in quotation marks as shown below.
You commented:
"If you're going to illegally and Unprofessionally post private correspondence between us, post ALL of it, not just a part of it to make your one sided point:"
It is strange that you are leveling charges that in the first place apply to you because it is you who first started all this, posted my private email to you and committed breach of privilege and implied mutual trust. Regarding your request to post ALL of our correspondence, it is not acceptable to me because I suspect you are not making this in a sound state of mind. How else can I take it because your emails to me consist of personal and intimate details of your past life since your childhood days and no patient in a sound state of mind would request that all her personal medical records be made public. In my earlier post, I have taken care to include only that portion of the email that is relevant to proving that you approached me in a private email dt 7/28/12, hoping that I might take interest and provide miasmatic suggestions or even take up your case. In your own words, your expectations while sharing your experiences on the list is that someone like me may provide you help either gratis (miasmatic suggestions only) or take up your case (duly charging you for the professional services). But when your expectations bear fruit, you want to say you are not the cause of initiation of this whole process. A very strange attitude indeed. That extract from your email is again posted below. [The relevant rubrics for this state of your mind are: MIND - CONTRADICTORY - actions are contradictory to intentions; MIND - WILL - contradiction of; MIND - WILL - two wills; sensation as if he had ]
[From:
healthyinfo6@aol.com
Sent:
Sat 7/28/12 3:30 PM
To:
vtyekkirala@hotmail.com
Hi Dr. Yekkirala,
Thank you so much for writing. I wanted to share my experiences online, as I have been doing so for many years, and also was hoping someone like yourself might take interest and provide miasmatic prescribing suggestions or even take my case..Please inform me if you feel you are able help further my homeopathic treatment that may alleviate diabetes and what your $ charges are.]
" When YOU initially contacted ME, you also wrote...
While you related your genetic make up
like obesity from childhood, your bi-polar history , which again is not clear if it is
inherited etc. As an individual what you are, your mental make up is essential
for finding out what remedy would help you, miasmatically.
Perhaps some information on what miasmatic prescribing means may be found
from a seminar review I posted in the December journal of hpathy.com at:
http://hpathy.com/journal/homeopathy-4- ... mber-2011/
Click on the link to read my article:
Two Day Seminar on Predictive Homeopathy in Advanced and Incurable Cases â?" A Review -
If you want any further help, pls feel free to email me, but it may be a while before
you can get any response from me.
with best wishes,
V.T.Yekkirala.
HYDERABAD
INDIA "
"Since YOU volunteered, I wanted to find out how much YOU charge for your work
I wasn't looking for nor expecting a freebie.
At the time, I was looking for a new homeopath but never initiated contact with you.
YOU initiated contact with me.
Then, after reading the Predictive Homeopathy stuff, I saw how YOU would not be a good homeopath for ME because of the lack of and dated info from your link on Predictive Homeopathy
PLUS
In addition, I read your homophobic style post on Hpathy, that homosexuality is perverse against nature's laws and God that Predictive Homeopathy and you seem to believe and promote.
That is why I did not reply any further. Not your false assertion that I needed to stop alternating remedies before you would take my case.
How am I to know why you abruptly ended correspondence unless and untill you tell me. In the absence of any further communication from you, that is the only logical conclusion that anyone can draw from what you wrote in your emails to me. I appreciate your genuine concerns about reversal of your sexual preferences at this age and stage of your life and thanks for sharing this concern though belatedly. But this belated explanation of yours does not explain why you have not asked for clarification on this aspect, in the beginning itself along with so many other questions you wrote to me. I had sent all the links to my seminar report in my very first email to you. Is it the case that you were initially prepared for losing your homosexuality as a bargain for getting rid of your Bi-polar, but due to a second thoughts on the possible repercussions, you decided against your earlier decision and so abruptly stopped correspondence with me? However I respect your health choices and have no more comments to offer on this aspect. Propriety demands that you should have informed me there and then, what you chose to reveal now belatedly and in the most inappropriate way and that too on a public forum [Relevant rubrics for this state of your mind are: MIND - ABRUPT - harsh; and MIND - INDISCRETION; MIND - SECRETIVE; and MIND - NAKED, wants to be; and MIND - CHAOTIC ]
"I have NO idea how much research you did on my case, I NEVER asked you to, you NEVER took my full case, just from what you read on my public posts.
You are a liar. You did send me your case details in your emails to me, but whether everything you wrote in those emails is already posted in your public posts or not, I go by your statement and mind you - this statement of yours will be binding on you. I happened to read just one or two of your posts on the list when it all sounded as if I am hearing a cry for help in wilderness and thought I must do my own bit to see if I can help you. As it turned out you are a capricious cry baby. Regarding my taking your full case it never arose, because you abruptly stopped communicating with me when I insisted in my email dt 7/29/12 that you must be agreeing to stop alternation of remedies. [ Relevant rubrics for this state of your mind are : MIND - LIAR - lies, never speaks the truth, does not know what she is saying; MIND - CAPRICIOUSNESS - rejecting the things for which he has been longing; when offered, he is; MIND - ANSWERING - aversion to answer - sings, talks, but will not answer questions; MIND - ABRUPT - harsh]
"When YOU appeared here on Minutus, just since Februrary, after an absence from 2010, I said to myself, let's see how long until you start offering your "services" and voila, you did."
This is spine chilling and hair raising experience for me to hear this from you. I myself had no statistics of when I visited different discussion groups of which I am a member- just don't have time to do it. My wife and I, both lost sleep on your statement, as my wife is envious that there is someone else who is taking more interest in my activities and services than she. I can hear your chuckles as you read this, but all this betrays your lack of understanding of why a public forum is established and why members join it. Perhaps you feel, only you have the exclusive right of using the list, for tormenting everyone with your complaints no-end and when someone like me extends a helping hand in good faith, you derive your sadistic and cynical pleasure in trying to humiliate him or her in the way you have been doing for many years. As some members wrote to me in private, you were called a stalker and I referred the dictionary for its meaning. Your own confession as noted above shows you truly deserve that title. [Relevant rubrics for this state of your mind are: MIND - CUNNING; MIND - THOUGHTS - persistent - murder, fire and rats; of nothing but; MIND - ANXIETY - hypochondriacal - read books; mania to - medical books; MIND - TORMENTING - others - day and night; Mind - ANXIETY, general - evening - as evening comes on (in this last rubric evening may be taken to mean evening in one's own life and not necessarily the daily evening) ]
"In addition, I read your homophobic style post on Hpathy, that homosexuality is perverse against nature's laws and God that Predictive Homeopathy and you seem to believe and promote."..
"It seems your primary agenda is to push Predictive Homeopathy.
Since PH promotes "curing" homosexuality,"
This again is your perverted interpretation. PH or for that matter any school of homeopathy can't promote curing or inducing homosexuality. The power of GCS is such that it works with equal effect whether you are a staunch believer of GOD/ DEVIL/ NATURE or an atheist, and irrespective of your nationality/ religion/ race/ gender/ species of animal or plant kingdom. What the GCS does is stimulate the vital force and the vital force establishes order and normalizes functions and sensations at all levels. If the homosexuality or any other symptoms noted in the patient are not native and natural to that organism, they will be neutralized and cease to exist altogether as a process of restoration of health in a rapid, gentle and permanent way. It is immaterial whether you admire or abhor the symptoms disappearing as such because those aberrations of admiration or abhorrence are individual specific and not innate and we as homeopaths are trained to be unbiased observers of natural phenomenon as such, to intellectually understand its significance without emotional coloring or getting mixed up with our own desires/ aversions/ preferences and we are trained in these aspects while you are not so trained. Mere book reading, arm-chair philosophizing won't get you there unless you work and learn under the tutelage and personal supervision of a senior homeopath who was similarly trained in a clinical setting. And this is borne out by the fact that in some of the cases, reversal of homosexuality happened and a scientific fact is a fact whether it is to your liking or not. We as homeopaths are just facilitators in the intricate workings of nature stimulated by the GCS and beyond silently witnessing the power of the GCS, we have little control on the process itself. But whether it can do so in all cases of homosexuality and if not why not can only be known when more and more homeopaths begin sharing their experiences without fear of being ostracized by self-appointed messiahs like you.
"it is imperative anyone thinking of using your services be made aware of that fact.
It's not unrelated, it's totally synchronistic.
Susan"
Since you have not revealed that you are a homosexual till now, that question did not arise. Had you given me your full case, and revealed your sexual preferences, you would have been notified accordingly and the choice of whether to go in for GCS or just limit to your constitutional similimum etc., would have been discussed and the treatment tailor made to suit your requirements. Any way thanks for your suggestion. And also please note that the rubric suggestions made in brackets are not meant to be used by you for self-prescription and doing so would be at your own risk. Those are meant for the list members some of whom are interested in knowing how to translate the mental disposition into corresponding rubrics in the MIND chapter especially those who have studied Sehgal's School of Revolutionalized Homeopathy. Also please note my offer to treat you still stands no matter how much you praise me to the heaven (if there is one) or pin me down to the hell (if there is one) and my only condition to you is that you MUST stop all self-medication including all herbal supplements and other health fad foods. Susan, I volunteered to help you, not for the money you offer but the challenging nature of your case which only attracted me to respond - Believe It or Not.
V T Yekkirala
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, healthyinfo6@... wrote: