Blocked up nose/sinuses

[Irene de Villiers]

The mumbo-jumbo is yours.
You would benefit from some basic chemistry lessons, and from an ability to sort fact from fiction.
Your refusal to look at science has no valid excuse, and is the reason for your false beliefs. They are beliefs only.
Science is not mumbo-jumbo. The use of allopathic (opposite-to-symptom) principle causes people to stay sick. Ozone is allopathic.
Nobody said it was.
When I wrote NO, it was he word opposite to yes.

What you say here is an invention, and is not true. Electrons and their reactivity, is a lot more complex than your simplistic view here.
Examples:
Mg2+. Zn2+, and other divalent cations are all acids, with two missing outer electrons, and are neither hydrogen nor halogen.
There are many different kinds of chemical reaction and whether they start with a "stable" outer electron shell or not, is no rule of thumb for their reactivity.
The halogens include Iodine which is a highly beneficial nutrient in the body. If it was going about smashing
mitochondrial metabolism, nobody would have a functional thyroid.

Please - I decline to waste more time on your junk science.

Namaste,
Irene

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P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[comdyne2002]

Where are the cures we have been promised for the last 50 years?
Science my ass... Carmi

[Irene de Villiers]

Ignoring your usual inability to be civil,
you are confusing science and allopathic medicine.
They are not the same thing.
Science teaches us facts. How those are used or misused is a separate subject.

Irene

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P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[healthinfo6]

I've had an ozone generator, which uses glass plates with wire mesh, for years, mainly used when I lived in an old house by the ocean. It's great to reduce/kill mold, mildew, must. I would leave it on only when I left the house, though over the years I have breathed in the ozone. Now in a non-moldy apartment, I rarely use it only to clear the air from any odors that may seep in from walls and vents including smoke, marijuana, etc. I find the ozone less irritating than ions that are used in so many air purifiers.
Ozone injected in blood is an alternative health treatment.
Ozone is produced when lightning strikes.
What can be more natural, fresh smelling and healthy than that!
Susan

[healthinfo6]

Just a thought, inhaling some ozone might help a lung bacterial infection maybe lung cancer?
Susan

[healthinfo6]

Though a combo, you can use an individual remedy listed for the stage of a cold you're in.
http://www.boironusa.com/products/coldcalm-tablets/
Susan

[Rochelle]

It says Apis mellifica 6C HPUS - Relieves nasal congestion. May try that tonight . The cold is on its way out now!!
Rochelle
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Subject: Re: [Minutus] Blocked up nose/sinuses
Though a combo, you can use an individual remedy listed for the stage of a cold you're in.
http://www.boironusa.com/products/coldcalm-tablets/
Susan

[comdyne2002]

If you were ignoring my rant, then why did you mention it? The science you refer to is bought and paid for by the pharmaceutical industry. They expect to get the results they desire and so-called "scientists" are obliged to comply with their wishes or lose their livelihoods.

Just because someone publishes some impressive looking mumbo-jumbo doesn't make it true. Science and allopathic medicine are strange bedfellows to be sure. If you were a big drug company and a treatment that was nearly totally curative and can be applied without the need for a doctor at home wouldn't it seem reasonable to write up such nonsense to thwart the truth. I am well aware of the study you mentioned in a previous post. It's bogus.

Here is a speech from another industry that clearly spells it out:

There is no such thing as an independent press (insert science here) in America, unless it is out in the country towns. You are all slaves. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dares to express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it will not appear in print. I am paid $150 per week for keeping honest opinions out of the paper (professional journal) I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things. If I should allow honest opinions (the truth) to be printed in one issue of my paper, like Othello, my occupation would be gone. The business of a leading journalist (scientist) is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and to sell his country and his race for his daily bread, or his salary. You know this, and I know it, and what foolery to be toasting an " independent press (science)." We are the tools and vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the string and we dance. Our time, our talent, our possibilities are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes.

The piper is now playing his flute. Please line up and march proudly towards the river...

Caveat Emptor! Carmi Hazen
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Ignoring your usual inability to be civil,
you are confusing science and allopathic medicine.
They are not the same thing.
Science teaches us facts. How those are used or misused is a separate subject.

[Christine Wyndham-Thomas]

Oh for goodness sake. That journalist is talking about media reporting and relates their profession to being like that of intellectual prostitutes. It is You that's trying to relate what he said to that of scientists.
Now, there are scientists that will do anything for money and, yes, they will lie if it serves their purpose, but there are those that don't. And, yes, I believe the pharmaceutical companies do pay scientists to find nothing wrong with their products, even if there is...well, the proof of that can't be denied.
However, you are forgetting one very important matter, there's nothing they'd like more than to discredit homeopathy - which Irene clearly doesn't. She stands by what she knows and explains 'why' really really well. I'm not a scientist but I like to know the 'whys' behind everything. If Hahnemann had simply written a book on his discovery of homeopathy I don't think the healing system would be as popular as it is today. And I'm sure if you had lived during Hahnemann's times, you'd have been just as upset with his comments as you are with Irene's, because he was known to be very outspoken...he knew what he knew and wasn't going by what he thought or what he had heard someone else say. He questioned the 'why' behind it all and got answers, because he, too, was a scientist..
Sometimes people don't want to hear the truth because they don't want their illusions destroyed. There is a hell of a lot of misinformation out there and on the net and you need something to separate the 'wheat from the chaff', so to speak, otherwise you'd end up believing the moon was made of cheese and that the earth was flat!
I, for one, am very grateful we've got Irene on this list and that she takes the time to go into detail with her replies. She gives another side to the issue that many of us wouldn't know about, and I believe that's very important. If you don't like the way she comes across, the problem is yours not hers.
Regards
Christine Wyndham-Thomas
www.homoeopathyclassical.com

[Irene de Villiers]

It is more likely to result in death.
Ozone is very toxic to lungs.
It's KNOWN effects include:

*Decreases in lung function

*Aggravation of asthma

*Throat irritation and cough

*Chest pain and shortness of breath

*Inflammation of lung tissue

*HIGHER susceptibility to respiratory infection

* Death in very ill individuals with lung issues who breathe it in.

Ozone chemistry involves losing one of its three oxygen molecules which then goes to do harm to a body cell.
ESPECIALLY lung cells.

Namaste,
Irene

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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."