Blocked up nose/sinuses

[Rochelle]

Thanks Irene for being the font of knowledge that you are as usual!!! My
Glucometer must be OK as it is only up a little , less than I would usually
expect for a cold.

Rochelle

[Gisela Ahrendt]

I must jump in here - to the person that talks for Ozone treatment - how can Ozone treatment be beneficial if we know it is used as a killer of ALL Bacteria.
We use it in water and all types of cleaning appliances - like Nail Salon use it to clean their instruments,pools install ozone filters to clean the water and so on. Now having said that - if Ozone Kills Bacteria then it will also kill all the good Bacteria and life in an organism. I don't know if this makes sense to you'll but I would definitely not use Ozone as an inhaler - now Oxygen is a different matter - and for the one that claims Ozone is used in Germany - I doubt that, I am german and have a good report with german health practitioners and they would not use Ozone as an Inhaler. But rather use Oxygen which is an entirely different thing.
Gisela

[Lynn Cremona]

Hi Rochelle,

You're probably feeling better already
here is a video on Pressure Points to relieve nasal sinus congestion
they work like a charm


Feel better,
Lynn
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[Rochelle]

Wow thanks for this- the first one worked a treat!!! Will now watch the rest of it!!
Am not ill – it’s just the blocked nose so I can’t breathe through it that it annoying me., Tissue (cell) salt Combo Q worked quite well last night.
Rochelle
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Lynn Cremona
Sent: 11 March 2013 14:48
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Blocked up nose/sinuses
Hi Rochelle,

You're probably feeling better already
here is a video on Pressure Points to relieve nasal sinus congestion
they work like a charm



Feel better,
Lynn
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Rochelle

Sunday, March 10, 2013 2:48 PM

I’ve got a cold- does anyone know of a remedy that will unblock my nose/sinuses so I can breathe out of my nose again!!! Got 3 new patients in tomorrow and don’t want to sound like a dalek!! It’s just a cold as I am not ill with it. It started yesterday and am taking 3-4g Vit C , Echinacea and zinc.
Thanks

Rochelle
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Imagine Peace
http://www.homeopathicsolutions.blogspot.com/

[Irene de Villiers]

Welcome:-)
Hope the cold goes soon.
I also find any infection causes a rise in my glucose readings. Irritating:-)
Namaste,
Irene
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"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Irene de Villiers]

Have you forgotten to look in the mirror lately?
That's the only source of insults here. I presented facts. Facts are not insults.
You now claim:

...........
and
WHat does it mater if science goes out the window, unless science DOES matter.
Again - have yo seen a mirror lately?
I presented studies with factual results.

Here are some more facts
On the contrary, German research warns against the use of this toxic gas.
Perfecting devices does not make the use of them safe.
You are incorrect.
Ozone is a molecule with THREE oxygen atoms, which is made by a chemical reaction between oxygen (which has 2 oxygen atoms in its molecule) and pollutant chemicals. Ozone near the ground is usually called "smog".

Ozone 10 to 30 miles above the ground is called "the ozone layer".
It has a special property that is beneficial - so long as it stays up there where we do not breathe it:
It forms a layer of protection against Ultraviolet radiation from the sun. Without the ozone layer we'd all die pretty soon of cancer.
Unfortunately, man's pollution is breaking the ozone layer and there is already a signifcant size hole in that layer over the south pole (which is why skin cancer rates have escalated so much in the southern hemisphere). Sunbathing is no longer as safe as it used to be.
This is an allopathic use of ozone as an antibiotic. It has been used to kill bacteria in some kinds of wounds, such as bone infections fro example, by allopaths. Like all antibiotics it is a toxin. It kills bacteria by poisoning them (the opposite of homeopathy, which gets rid of bacteria by building up cell defenses to make bacteria unable to attack). ALL antibiotics are non-discriminatory - they are toxic to all they touch - so that includes the person with the bacterial infection. The (allopathic) principle used for ozone as an antibiotic - and for all antibiotics - is to HOPE that the toxin for the bacteria is worse than the toxicity to the human and that the dose will not actually kill the human.
Sadly that is not so. It is a pity you are so against the concept of science, but that you talk about molecules as if you do care.
Ozone having three atoms and oxygen having two, makes them totally different substances, with totally different qualities, actions and features.
It does not make ozone an "enriched" version of oxygen!

(Nor is hydrogen peroxide an "enriched" version of water - yet it too has one extra oxygen atom in the molecule.)
On the contrary - unstable free oxygen atoms ARE themselves, damaging free radicals!
So you are ADDING free radicals, not scavenging them.

That is why we try to swallow "ANTI-oxidants" - to get rid of free oxygen radicals.

That is the toxic mechanism of ozone - to ACT as oxygen radicals that do damage. They do damage to bacteria in an infection (and to the surrounding tissue).
Those who do not know what they are about - defend their ideas by this kind of behavior and by pretense that they do not follow the terminology of the explanation in studies presented (even though there are online dictionaries and there were no complex terms).
It's an excuse for NOT knowing - and not wanting to know - the facts.

I see you link to sales of the stuff.
Yet YOU're the one who said: "When money comes through the door, science goes out the window."

I prefer not to toss science out the window. I only abhor misuse of science, I value scientific facts.
As here with ozone. It is "sold" on the false premise that "it is enhanced oxygen".
Nothing could be further from the truth.

Namaste,
Irene

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P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[comdyne2002]

Ozone when it comes in contact with SOD it is converted back into oxygen. When ozone is made from pure oxygen only about 1% of the oxygen is converted thus there isn't much of it and most of that gets reconstituted back into oxygen upon contact. A few sneak by and last for up to 20 seconds or so and fewer still get to roam around for up to 20 minutes and these are highly selective in seeking out pathogens who have free radicals. These pathogens appear to have a positive electrical charge in their valance orbit and the ozone is extremely negative in its charge. Yes both the free radical and the ozone molecule are both negative but the free radical much less so and thus appears to be positively charged even though it isn't.

Most healthy bacteria are aerobic and have no loose free radicals beyond a normal load. The pathogenic bacteria though are mostly anaerobic and when ozone slams into them, their charge is neutralized and thus the life force gets terminated. Healthy bacteria are thus not easily damaged by the ozone gas due to their free radicals being more intensely negatively charged and thus there is less of a potential difference between the bacteria and the ozone molecule.

Yes, only a handful of German practitioners use inhaled ozone as so much fear has been spread about its so-called potential dangers. It is not at all dangerous and extremely beneficial when run through pinus oils. The technobabble confuses the issue so most people have a fear of using it. That is understandable. I use it all the time and Doc uses it in the clinic. The results have been excellent. Caveat Emptor! Carmi Hazen

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...how can Ozone treatment be beneficial if we know it is used as a killer of ALL Bacteria.
We use it in water and all types of cleaning appliances - like Nail Salon use it to clean their instruments,pools install ozone filters to clean the water and so on. Now having said that - if Ozone Kills Bacteria then it will also kill all the good Bacteria and life in an organism. I don't know if this makes sense to you'll but I would definitely not use Ozone as an inhaler - now Oxygen is a different matter - and for the one that claims Ozone is used in Germany - I doubt that, I am german and have a good report with german health practitioners and they would not use Ozone as an Inhaler. But rather use Oxygen which is an entirely different thing.

[comdyne2002]

Irene, you are not repeating facts, just "scientific" mumbo-jumbo. This keeps lots of people employed in spite of the fact they have virtually no cures. They put out that crap to keep their cushy jobs.

Ozone is not NO combined with O3. Ozone is produced by fracturing the O2 molecule into O1 which then attaches to an undamaged O2 molecule creating O3. As everything except hydrogen and the 5 halogens consisting of bromine, chlorine, fluorine, iodine and astatine which have 7 electrons in a stable outer shell, all other elements are paired in their valence shell and thus stable. Ozone is the exception being unstable and thus very useful as a cleansing agent. The halogens being very dangerous to mitochondrial metabolism.

When ozone combines with NO it is no longer ozone. If there was enough ozone, all the NO would be oxidized and there would be no pollution.

When the sun goes down ozone falls to earth cleaning up the trash on the way down. At night there is no ozone layer. When the sun comes up the next day the UV wavelengths and primarily 1890 Angstoms (189nm) excites the oxygen at those altitudes you mentioned and the vibratory excitation splits up the oxygen bonding forming a new ozone layer that does indeed block some of the UV from reaching the earth. The danger comes from UV-C which is thoroughly blocked out otherwise all life on earth would quickly become extinct.

If you are going to continue with your cheap shots I'm not going to waste any more time with you. Go ahead and get in the last word, you always do. Caveat Emptor! Carmi Hazen

[comdyne2002]

Ooops! Forgot to comment about ozone being a free radical scavenger. It isn't, ozone only donates electrons, it never takes them thus it is not a free radical in the sense that it is harmful. Caveat Emptor! Carmi Hazen

[Irene de Villiers]

The mumbo-jumbo is yours.
You would benefit from some basic chemistry lessons, and from an ability to sort fact from fiction.
Your refusal to look at science has no valid excuse, and is the reason for your false beliefs. They are beliefs only.
Science is not mumbo-jumbo. The use of allopathic (opposite-to-symptom) principle causes people to stay sick. Ozone is allopathic.
Nobody said it was.
When I wrote NO, it was he word opposite to yes.

What you say here is an invention, and is not true. Electrons and their reactivity, is a lot more complex than your simplistic view here.
Examples:
Mg2+. Zn2+, and other divalent cations are all acids, with two missing outer electrons, and are neither hydrogen nor halogen.
There are many different kinds of chemical reaction and whether they start with a "stable" outer electron shell or not, is no rule of thumb for their reactivity.
The halogens include Iodine which is a highly beneficial nutrient in the body. If it was going about smashing
mitochondrial metabolism, nobody would have a functional thyroid.

Please - I decline to waste more time on your junk science.

Namaste,
Irene

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P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."