Miracle Mineral supplement!!!!

[Rochelle Marsden]

Had a new patient in that takes this MMS. It appears to be pure chlorine once activated. I don't rate the chances of the Rx I have given him working after taking that although Mum has agreed to stop giving it to him!!!
Anyone come across it as I hadn't
Rochelle
Registered Homeopath with The Society of Homeopaths
EFT (Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk

[Tanya Marquette]

MMS is Chloride dioxide, Cl2O2, as opposed to Cl2O (i think i got it right)
It is supposed to have very different actions in the body
tanya

[Paul Booyse]

Why on earth are people putting free radicals into their bodies? Because someone told them its a new miracle, its healthy, its an antioxidant, its a cancer preventer its a ......... load of marketing hogwash, but also extremely harmful !!!
Regards,
Paul
(ditto for all the "oxygen" "ozone" "peroxide" products out there. Oh, and while I am ranting, let me knock the "natural crystal deodorant stones" , which are supposedly aluminium free.)

[Joy Lucas]

) would love to join the anti supplement rant and not just this one - but Rochelle all you can do is ask for it to be stopped or weaned off (and they do need careful weaning when someone has been on a 'supplement' for a long time as they are crude doses and akin to allopathic drugs), however if you prescribe the simillimum there is always a chance that the rx will work sufficiently well for this supplement to be discontinued but sometimes you border on addiction of intent if not an assumed benefit of the said supplement.

Joy

http://www.joylucashomeopathy.com
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/homeopathystudy/

[Rochelle Marsden]

It is NaCl02 but to activate it you add 5 drops of citric acid and leave for 3 mins. The boy and his mum took a dose when they were with me. The solution was green and smelt of Chlorine which is what is released by this chemical reaction (going back to my previous life as a chemistry teacher here!!) . The other substances produced will be Sodium citrate and water. So basically all you are taking is the sodium citrate and water as the chlorine has been released into the atmosphere in the 3 mins it was left!!! What a load of hooey unless anyone knows any difference.
The boy, age 16, was bought to me because he refused injectable antibiotics/Xray of teeth/ cat scan at the hospital yesterday for something that could be a large hard abscess under the chin which was preventing eating as so large. It started coming up 3 days ago after Mum had given him 10 days of Lobelia 3x suggested by a friend who is a homeopath for his cough. The homeopath prescribed 3 doses but mum ordered from Helios and carried on giving it to him. I think Mum only started him on the MMS yesterday to "fight the infection". Anyway the "abscess" has started going down which mum attributed to the MMS.
Rochelle
Registered Homeopath with The Society of Homeopaths
EFT (Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk

[Shannon Nelson]

Harmful in what way? Do you by any chance know a website or whatever that explains the harm of it?
Thanks,
Shannon

[Tanya Marquette]

I think negative critique on a product is fine, but it should be based on specific information. Opinions
are our free speech, but do not represent facts.
tanya

[Paul Booyse]

Hi Rochelle,
The chlorine you smell is that which is released, but there is still chlorine in solution and most likely the reaction is not over after 3 minutes. It (sodium chlorite) is similar to bleach (sodium hypochlorite). You can use it to disinfect water because it has an effect in solution, so it is not only the chlorine you smell which is acting. It is also used in mouthwash etc. The point is, it is a free radical. It is still active in the solution (otherwise how wouldit have effects in the body when you drink it) and is not selective in its action. It will attack any organic matter it comes into contact with, such as red blood cells. So in overdose it can cause hemolysis, but it can do this also in sensitive individuals such as those with Glucose-6-phosphate dehydrogenase deficiency.
It is a poison and any homeopath should be aware of its pharmacology and its harmful effect on the body. A short use, topically can be effective as a disinfectant but should not be used internally especially for longterm as a health supplement.
If you use it for an abscess, there is the chance that the infection is partially affected but not completely. So the VF may wall off the abscess, i.e. it is not cleared nor does it drain. this leaves a lump and possibility of reactivation later. With an abscess it is important that an antibiotic (which we can classify the Cl as in this case) has the ability to penetrate the whole area. Because the area is pus-filled this is quite difficult. Old sulpha antibiotics were notoriously bad at penetrating sepsis. Tetracyclines owe their "effectiveness" to the degree to which each is lipid soluble (and able to penetrate pus), so doxycycline is more effective than tetracycline.
The best treatment is to do what you do and use homeopathy. Stop the funny stuff and give whatever you feel indicated e.g. hepar, silica, gunpowder or A.N.other.
Regards,
Paul

[Paul Booyse]

Hi Shannon,
You won't necessarily get websites about the harm of it, same as for colloidal silver. Because your websearch will bring up many websites for companies selling the product. they have no scientific basis behind them , do not understand the mechanism of action and are making their quick buck (sound like big pharma? - it's no different).
But it is basic chemistry 101. The product forms free radicals -lone oxygen, chlorine etc.(look up sites for oxidation/reduction). It kills bacteria because it oxidizes them. That is why ANTI-oxidants protect against free radicals. They are reducing agents, the opposite of oxidizing agents, which is what free radicals generally tend to be.
We know that antioxidants protect against cell damage, ageing, atherosclerosis, cancer etc.
Would you drink bleach regularly? Even in small quantities? That is what drink this stuff regularly can be akin to.
regards,
Paul

[Rochelle Marsden]

Thanks Paul for that. I wondered if there would still be Chlorine that hadn't gone off into the air after 3 mins, however by the time Mum had mixed it with apple juice and more water another couple of minutes had gone!!
I actually prescribed Mercury because keynotes such as loads of saliva, had to keep swallowing, wide flabby tongue and it seemed to suit this lad who wanted to go in the army as he wanted to fight with guns!! I hope it works!!
Rochelle
Registered Homeopath with The Society of Homeopaths
EFT (Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk