Disturbing news re HIV drugs

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Tanya Marquette
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Re: Disturbing news re HIV drugs

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your thoughts sound good, but really do not account for the spread of aids as rapidly as it did
in the usa. many in the gay community ate very well and could afford health care services.
aids was introduced into communities considered expendable. it is a recominant retro virus, made in
a lab. sorry for this disturbing idea, but this is a major part of the ruling class desiring to thin the herd
of the 'useless eaters' of the world--their phrase, certainly not mine.
tanya
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Liz Brynin
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Oh Tanya - no need to apologise - I don't know where the virus (if that's what it is) came from. A lab? Possibly. But personally, I somewhat subscribe to H. Coulter's theory that it's syphilis - the great pretender - under a new guise. All STDs are on the rise due to modern lifestyles - no wonder that syphilis is there too.
As for the rapid spread among the gay community, I think the US is a special case that can be explained away by their life-style - again, highly promiscuous, lots of different contacts and - above all - their use of both recreational and therapeutic drugs, the latter being used routinely as a preventative measure before sexual intercourse had even taken place. No wonder their immune systems collapsed.
Liz
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Tanya Marquette
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A few years ago I read and was influenced by H.Coulter's theory that it was really supressed syphillis. But his theory was debunked and I gave up on thinking
that way. Readings that I have done over the years indicate that this was part of the eugenics movement with government funding to develop this 'special virus.'
That research went on until the late '70's or early '80's when the virus was let loose on populations. The problem with HIV is that it took so long to develop and
many did not react to the virus. The gay community took lots of Hep B vaccines for STDs, most likely being infected with those very vaccine shots.
One thing to look at is the very rapid development of a new disease in select populations. Every time this has happened, the information always leads back to
government run/sponsored labs that are working on bio-warfare experiements. This alone should tell you a big something about what is going on. Whether,
it is 'accidental' release or intentional becomes less and less of a question as solutions for quick decimation of populations are released upon us at an
increasingly faster pace. Drug companies are very complicit in this effort as they anticipate huge profits from drug sales which make people ever sicker with
more drugs to be sold. These companies are not just simply greedy money makers--the top echelons are often true believers in the genocide they promote.
Remember that Bayer and Merck came out of the break up of IG Farben of Nazi fame. Ownership stays within the same 'family' of thinkers, continuing that
mentality though history.
I think it is important to know how this works politically and economically, These sinister processes define the world we live in and inform us of what we need
to hold at bay, and try to undo. These processes are the basis of so much of what ails people. Doing homeopathy is great, but I would rather not see people
succumbing to these diseases artificially imposed on us.
tanya
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Liz Brynin
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That's very heavy stuff - but not beyond my belief. I am wary of 'conspiracy theories' as such, but some of the events of the past few years have no other explanation - the latest being swine flu!
Well - we'll see. However, just a question - didn't the first cases of HIV arise in some far-off tourist location - and were then subsequently shown to have been brought back to the US and Europe by 'tourist transmission'? I seem to remember a TIME magazine - way back now, in the time when people had no idea what AIDS/HIV was - with a front cover screaming 'AIDS - the new plague' and explaining where it had first arisen and what the prognosis was (exponential growth - terrifying!)
Anyway - I don't know the answer - and I also know that the virus has never been seen under a microscope - which makes me wonder if we are not looking in the wrong place or that it's actually an immune system collapse, triggered by many different cumulative assaults on the immune system.
Who knows?
Liz
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JULIE GRIFFITHS
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There was a CBC (CANADIAN BROADCASTING CORPORATION) documentary broadcast (believe it or not!) several years ago based on the theory that AIDS arrived in Africa via the polio vaccine.

Here's a link. If you scroll down and look for CBC AIDS vaccines.....
http://downloadcave.com/search.php?PID= ... Conspiracy

It's a very persuasive account and hopefully it's not true.

Julie
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That's very heavy stuff - but not beyond my belief. I am wary of 'conspiracy theories' as such, but some of the events of the past few years have no other explanation - the latest being swine flu!
Well - we'll see. However, just a question - didn't the first cases of HIV arise in some far-off tourist location - and were then subsequently shown to have been brought back to the US and Europe by 'tourist transmission' ? I seem to remember a TIME magazine - way back now, in the time when people had no idea what AIDS/HIV was - with a front cover screaming 'AIDS - the new plague' and explaining where it had first arisen and what the prognosis was (exponential growth - terrifying!)
Anyway - I don't know the answer - and I also know that the virus has never been seen under a microscope - which makes me wonder if we are not looking in the wrong place or that it's actually an immune system collapse, triggered by many different cumulative assaults on the immune system.
Who knows?
Liz
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Liz Brynin
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Couldn't get on the site - had to sign up and I'm fed up with having to do this.
But it is an interesting idea. And why not if it's an engineered disease.
Liz
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Tanya Marquette
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the site is not a free download and i am not buying anything right now, including a tv broadcast.
maybe someone has saved the program and wants to share it.
as for the information, dr. gary glum's book Full Disclosure is available as a complete download.
the book cost me almost $100.00 a few years ago but is now free! go figure.
you need adobe acrobat to download it and it takes a few seconds to do.
the secret virusflow chart put broadcast by boyd graves is now also a free download that uses
adobe acrobat.
both of these men have credible credentials and you can read bios of them online, too.
i do believe in the sinister nature of the powerful leaders of the world. they are totalitarian/fascist
in philosophy and behavior. they have no respect for the general public, seeing us only as
the means to enrich themselves with money and power. the history of aids is a connect the dots
story that has philosophical roots that stretch back in time and that allow the attack against people.
glum's book talks about the selective targeting of populations for extinction, playing on the subtleties
of dna differences.
more than believable
tanya
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Rachel
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gary glum. pretty funny, given the pessimistic nature of the material. ok, so i am the 100,000th person to make the very same joke, i know....
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Tanya Marquette
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we need some humor in life-yes?
he also did a book on rene Caisse, the nurse who developed
essiac herbal tea for cancer. the title is something about an angel
and it is also a free download. haven't read that one, but do know about
caisse and essiac tea.
tanya
gary glum. pretty funny, given the pessimistic nature of the material. ok, so i am the 100,000th person to make the very same joke, i know....
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