Perforated ear drum

[Lucy De Pieri]

Greetings
any advice on this?
A 8 year old girl is doing very well on Phosphorus, today mom mentioned that the daughter had ear tubes after a large number of antibiotics for earache as a child. Eventually a ear tube was inserted and after a time it came off, but according to mom she still has a hole for at least 2 years.
Any suggestion to how to proceed? One thought was to actually check if the ear drum is currently perforated, The problem is that if any water gets in her ear she gets a discharge and needs antibiotics again.

Unless the hole in the ear drum is resolved she is due to have surgery where a graft would finally close the hole

Thank you for any suggestions
Kind regards
Lucy

Lucy De Pieri PhD, DCH

[Joy Lucas]

Best to re-take the case then if the Phos isn't curing the ear. Her ears have to be examined to see what is going on and take all sx pertaining to the ear including the H/O ear pain, discharges, causations, types of pain, modalities - all the simple procedure of taking the case etc, i.e. go back to the beginning. You'll have a 'mini totality' to study along with her current state. She could avoid water in the ear by using cotton wool or something like this but if water actually causes an infection that seems relevant and you already have a sx to start with.

Joy

http://www.joylucashomeopathy.com
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/homeopathystudy/

[Dale Moss]

From the Complete: Ears; PERFORATION, TYMPANUM (INFLAMMATION; MIDDLE ear, tympanum, myringitis)(p, 21, 1-1) (21) : Merc-d., astac., aur., calc., calc-i., caps., hep., hydr., iod., kali-bi., kali-p., merc., psor., puls., sil., sul-i., sulph., tell., ter., tub., verb.
Tub. is the only remedy listed if the perforation has ragged edges.
Do any of the above best suit her current state? My understanding was that perforated tympani tended to heal on their own -- why is this one not resolving after so long? Is slow healing a part of her overall picture?
Peace,
Dale

[Lucy De Pieri]

Thank you
Lucy

Lucy De Pieri PhD, DCH
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From: Joy Lucas
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, January 29, 2010 1:33:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Perforated ear drum
Best to re-take the case then if the Phos isn't curing the ear. Her ears have to be examined to see what is going on and take all sx pertaining to the ear including the H/O ear pain, discharges, causations, types of pain, modalities - all the simple procedure of taking the case etc, i.e. go back to the beginning. You'll have a 'mini totality' to study along with her current state. She could avoid water in the ear by using cotton wool or something like this but if water actually causes an infection that seems relevant and you already have a sx to start with.
Joy

http://www.joylucas homeopathy. com
http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ homeopathystudy/

[Lucy De Pieri]

Thank you Dale for your input, I did look at that rubric.
The whole case did beautifully with Phosphorus in so many different areas.

Here in BC, homeopaths are not allowed to medically examine the patient, so I am not allowed to look into this child ear. So I am not even sure if there is till a hole in the eardrum, - yes, they normally heal by themselves - the child loves swimming and she wears protective ear plugs and a swimming cap to ensure that no water enters. There seems to be such a big deal more with the mother that stresses about having absolutely no water entering the year as last fall the child had an ear infection.

I will revisit the case as Joy suggested but I will also ask the mother to get the ear looked at, as maybe there is no hole but just the mother anxiety about the hole
Thank you
Kind regards
Lucy

Lucy De Pieri PhD, DCH

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From: Dale Moss
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, January 29, 2010 9:45:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Perforated ear drum
From the Complete: Ears; PERFORATION, TYMPANUM (INFLAMMATION; MIDDLE ear, tympanum, myringitis)( p, 21, 1-1) (21) : Merc-d., astac., aur., calc., calc-i., caps., hep., hydr., iod., kali-bi., kali-p., merc., psor., puls., sil., sul-i., sulph., tell., ter., tub., verb.
Tub. is the only remedy listed if the perforation has ragged edges.
Do any of the above best suit her current state? My understanding was that perforated tympani tended to heal on their own -- why is this one not resolving after so long? Is slow healing a part of her overall picture?
Peace,
Dale

[Dale Moss]

Lucy,
If you can't examine the eardrum yourself, how about handing the mom an otoscope, telling her what to look for, and having her do the examination? Surely there can be no objection to a parent examining her own child! (Or can you examine if the mother specifically requests you to do so?) There must be some way around this idiocy.
Peace,
Dale
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[Gail Allen]

I think the drum not healing is more common following grommets than following rupture. I guess it is a bit like jabbing yourself with a pin compared to having a piercing where you leave an object in place to keep the hole open - the longer you maintain the hole, the more likely it is to stay open without the ornament in place. As Dale mentions - how fast a person heals can be part of the individual susceptibility.

Gail
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To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: lucydepieri@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 13:16:42 -0800
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Perforated ear drum

Thank you Dale for your input, I did look at that rubric.
The whole case did beautifully with Phosphorus in so many different areas.

Here in BC, homeopaths are not allowed to medically examine the patient, so I am not allowed to look into this child ear. So I am not even sure if there is till a hole in the eardrum, - yes, they normally heal by themselves - the child loves swimming and she wears protective ear plugs and a swimming cap to ensure that no water enters. There seems to be such a big deal more with the mother that stresses about having absolutely no water entering the year as last fall the child had an ear infection.

I will revisit the case as Joy suggested but I will also ask the mother to get the ear looked at, as maybe there is no hole but just the mother anxiety about the hole
Thank you
Kind regards
Lucy

Lucy De Pieri PhD, DCH

________________________________

From: Dale Moss
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, January 29, 2010 9:45:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Perforated ear drum
From the Complete: Ears; PERFORATION, TYMPANUM (INFLAMMATION; MIDDLE ear, tympanum, myringitis)( p, 21, 1-1) (21) : Merc-d., astac., aur., calc., calc-i., caps., hep., hydr., iod., kali-bi., kali-p., merc., psor., puls., sil., sul-i., sulph., tell., ter., tub., verb.
Tub. is the only remedy listed if the perforation has ragged edges.
Do any of the above best suit her current state? My understanding was that perforated tympani tended to heal on their own -- why is this one not resolving after so long? Is slow healing a part of her overall picture?
Peace,
Dale
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[Lucy De Pieri]

Thank you Gale, that makes perfect sense.
Kind regards
Lucy
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From: Gail Allen
To: minutus yaohoo
Sent: Fri, January 29, 2010 5:02:17 PM
Subject: RE: [Minutus] Perforated ear drum
I think the drum not healing is more common following grommets than following rupture. I guess it is a bit like jabbing yourself with a pin compared to having a piercing where you leave an object in place to keep the hole open - the longer you maintain the hole, the more likely it is to stay open without the ornament in place. As Dale mentions - how fast a person heals can be part of the individual susceptibility.

Gail
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To: minutus@yahoogroups .com
From: lucydepieri@ yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 13:16:42 -0800
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Perforated ear drum

Thank you Dale for your input, I did look at that rubric.
The whole case did beautifully with Phosphorus in so many different areas.

Here in BC, homeopaths are not allowed to medically examine the patient, so I am not allowed to look into this child ear. So I am not even sure if there is till a hole in the eardrum, - yes, they normally heal by themselves - the child loves swimming and she wears protective ear plugs and a swimming cap to ensure that no water enters. There seems to be such a big deal more with the mother that stresses about having absolutely no water entering the year as last fall the child had an ear infection.

I will revisit the case as Joy suggested but I will also ask the mother to get the ear looked at, as maybe there is no hole but just the mother anxiety about the hole
Thank you
Kind regards
Lucy

Lucy De Pieri PhD, DCH

________________________________

From: Dale Moss
To: minutus@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Fri, January 29, 2010 9:45:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Perforated ear drum
From the Complete: Ears; PERFORATION, TYMPANUM (INFLAMMATION; MIDDLE ear, tympanum, myringitis)( p, 21, 1-1) (21) : Merc-d., astac., aur., calc., calc-i., caps., hep., hydr., iod., kali-bi., kali-p., merc., psor., puls., sil., sul-i., sulph., tell., ter., tub., verb.
Tub. is the only remedy listed if the perforation has ragged edges.
Do any of the above best suit her current state? My understanding was that perforated tympani tended to heal on their own -- why is this one not resolving after so long? Is slow healing a part of her overall picture?
Peace,
Dale
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