repping strategy for a case with few good symptoms

[Ellen Madono]

Hi,

I have a patient who is giving me very little information to go on
since her skin symptoms were cleared with calc-c. I am trying to
think of a strategy to work with her.

Her delusions seem sort of normal considering the current economic
condition, but the idea that she cannot do commercial work seems
rather inflexible when she is worrying about uneployment. Her sister
is a wealthy doctor so her obsession with homelessness is not
realistic. She was given Sabina 6c that did nothing for her uterine
fibroid. She ended up "curing" it by depriving the tumor of its blood
supply. I only come up with Sabina to deal with her menopause mood
swings maybe a higher potency (200c or 1M). She seems to fit the
sycotic miasm. Thuja is not as close. Both are from the conifer
family that Sankaran talks about as fragile, scattered, inflexible,
which fits her.

She became angry during the interview and started to cry. I asked her
to sit for a few minutes and feel how the anger affected her body.
She could only come up that her heart was palpating and she was not
sure if it was circulatory or nerve related. Then she continued the
argument that she was having with me. Even then I could not get a good
symptom out of her. grrr She's crying and I am supposed to push her
for more exact symptoms. Not easy. I think that all her energy is
absorbed at suppressing feelings because they get in the way of her
work. Getting angry, irritation, outburst are a way to quit feeling.
So, talking about her troubles only irritates her. She ends up not
wanting to talk to me, but knows she has to so she can give me a good
case.
Chief complaint: vague uterine pains going to thighs with hormone
rushes at unpredictable times causing her to be irritable and
unpleasant. Gets the pain in the uterus just before the mood
instability. Controls with Motrine. Menopause at age 46. More than
physical pain, the emotional instability is bothering her. The worst
part of it is the unpredictability of the hormone rushes.

(my reaction: she is always irritable and unpleasant ever since I
have worked with her. Very forcefully domineering. Father is her
ideal. She is an engineer artist).

Hx: suppressed condolymata age 20. Strongly suppressed eczema mostly
cleared by Calc-c over 2 years. Outbursts of anger and irritability,
weeping at trivial opposition. Extremely sensitive to any possible
criticism. In working with her on an election, she was screaming a
opposition party yard signs in 2007.

WHAT KINGDOM DOES SHE BELONG TO? She has food sensitivities since she
was a child. Discovered hyperglycemia in her 30s so she eats a high
protein low carb diet. The demand for certainty, structure and
expression full of workplace buzz words makes me think of a mineral.
Height of her life was producing a film so she wants to be out there
in public, but I get the feeling she is an introvert. Her logic
always leads to survival issues -- homelessness. But, the bottom line
is she is very sensitive to criticism, foods. Maybe she is a plant.
I don't trust the repping because I don't have much to rep on. The
symptoms are just too common.

MIASM: keyword proliferation of scattered detail, cells, projects,
emotions - sycotic. But she seems to get symptoms in unexpected bouts
so maybe Sankaran Ringworm or Malaria. Now she is not hopeful about
surviving unemployment although she has done it before.

CASE DETAIL:
Obsessive about being being up to work at 9:30 and producing otherwise
she is "living a contradition." which means she is not living up to
her potential. To explain this obcession, as a child she was
dyslexic and trained by a very skillful mother to be an achiever but
she is "fucked up" in comparison with her doctor sister. I keep
seeing the childhood training process when I listen to her obsess
about needing to fulfill her personally built work quota. Delusions:
will become homeless because the economy is down. In December she
became unemployed with "unfair" refusal of the employer to supply
unemployment insurance. Can't think about her anger at the injustice
because she will become depressed so legal action against the employer
is among her many "work projects." Delusion: she is responsible for
keeping her husband in school therefore she should not touch their
savings. Delusion: She is limited by having to think constantly
before she spends. This is terrible (Isn't thinking about spending
normal for most people? She did not talk about repeated thoughts just
it was unpleasant and limiting.)
Sensation: Her thoughts in the morning are "scattered junk" planning
and solving problems as soon as she wakes up. She is in an absorbed
in a thought daze and cannot get to work by 9:30. Projects are her
life work. She feels complete only when her husband puts his hand on
her lower back or abdomen. Her art work involves collages made from
maps. She could "map her mind for me." Her mind is a bunch of
projects. (scaattered?) She designs websites but cannot do
commercial art because it is unethical. (delusion??) In summary she
is complete/incomplete, scattered/hyperfocused, collage map, map of
the mind, suppressed/depressed. So her inner life is filled with
projects and deadlines.

MY CURRENT STRATEGY:
Sabina 200c. If in a month no results, Thuja 200c followed 2 days
later with Sabina 1M.

Any insight?

Best,
Ellen Madono

[Paul Booyse]

Hi Ellen,
sensation is more Ranunculaceae and miasm cancer - staphysagria. Which fits fear of poverty etc, Condolymata etc. Despite her delusion seeming normal, they are her sensitivities. Her miasm is deeper than ringworm etc.
" I think that all her energy is absorbed at suppressing feelings because they get in the way of her work."
also
"In December she became unemployed with "unfair" refusal of the employer to supply unemployment insurance. Can't think about her anger at the injustice because she will become depressed " and more.
Only thing to check is the issue around homelessness, whether there is a strong idea of being outcast etc. which would maybe indicate leprosy miasm (Hydrastis).
regards,
Paul
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[Gail]

I was also thinking something like Staphysagria as I read it. Out of
curiousity does she have sweet seeming side to her as well? Just because
I remember in lectures being told that Staphysagrias often seen so
sweet. Often very irritable people for whom so much of life is unfair do
portray themselves as very sweet, innocent and unfairly targeted.

Gail.
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Booyse" wrote:
fits fear of poverty etc, Condolymata etc. Despite her delusion seeming
normal, they are her sensitivities. Her miasm is deeper than ringworm
etc.
because they get in the way of her work."
employer to supply unemployment insurance. Can't think about her anger
at the injustice because she will become depressed " and more.
a strong idea of being outcast etc. which would maybe indicate leprosy
miasm (Hydrastis).
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03/10/09 19:51:00

[usrardr]

thuja thuja and thuja she is a thuja 100 %.pl read below
(thuj.)
It is difficult to find precise words to described the Thuja state. We must resort to poetic descriptions. When you first meet a Thuja-patient you sense something which makes you cautious. He or she is very slow to trust others, and you have the feeling that he does not portray truthfully who he really is inside. Of course, everyone withholds information to some degree, but in Thuja you sense that there is ore than the usual secretiveness. More than that, you have the feeling that what is being withheld is ugly - not pleasant to bring to view, either to the patient or to the prescriber. The closest we can come to describing the Thuja patient is by the words UGLY and DECEIT.
A Thuja patient is sneaky and manipulative. He or she will purposely withhold information just to test you, to see if you know what you are doing. For example, a woman has a fainting spell; she says, "I felt my soul leaving me, and I was afraid I was going to die". She gives some more information, but she does not tell you that she ate a lot of heavy food the day before. She asks, "Do you think it could be my stomach"? Having no information to suggest this possibility, you say, "No, it was more likely a drop in blood pressure". Only then does she volunteer, "But yesterday I ate a lot of heavy food"! In this way, she tries to catch you out.
Thuja patients are always reserved. They take the position of observer - they observe everything while offering nothing of themselves. They do not allow any form of deep communication. They are very closed within themselves, but not because they lack feelings. They are merely reserved and suspicious about what might happen to them if they enter into deep communication.
Thuja patients are hard people. The hardness in their emotional expression manifest even on the physical level - as hard tumours. Just so, the ugliness in their soul manifests as ugliness in the tumours.
Do not be fooled by mere appearances, however. I recall a very nice an who did very well after Thuja, but in whom it was difficult to see the Thuja essence. He as one of the nicest people one could possibly meet - very sensitive a poet. Nevertheless, he himself felt he was distant from people. He felt unable to truly communicate directly and personally, so he turned to poetry as an outlet. To see Thuja in such a case, of course, requires quite a subtle understanding of both the patient and the remedy, but once given Thuja produces great benefit in these patients.
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What exactly has the sycotic miasm done to such a patient? At first, early in the person's history, it stimulates the more base instincts. These then insist upon expression. Society, however, steps in and puts the patent "in his place". He is punished and learns to control himself. This ten leads to the condition we see in Thuja. He learns to not display his real character any more, even though the tendencies remain inside and continue to cry out for expression. He finds ways to cheat. He becomes very proper. It is as if he has found out that being freely expressive of his instincts does not pay in society, so he becomes very controlled. In this way, he is tuned in to the opinions of others, but it is not a matter of being afraid of what others think, as in Lycopodium. In Thuja, it is a coldly calculated choice, for practical reasons only.
The dullness and forgetfulness eventually progresses into a despondence and dissatisfaction which can be quite deep. This is not as severe as in Nitric acid, which is also very dissatisfied, but specifically over issues of health. Thuja may have anxiety about health, but will face the problem directly. These patients are dissatisfied and despondent, but they are also cold, calculating, manipulative and scheming. They have cut themselves off. You can never know what is in their minds.
For this reason, the symptomatology in Thuja is usually UNCLEAR. You feel there is something there which you cannot quite grasp. Consequently, it is rare that you feel fully confident of a Thuja prescription. The full image is never clear because the patient never opens up enough.
As the mental pathology progresses, they develop fixed ideas. These may take different forms. Most strikingly, they describe a feeling that their legs are breakable. Kent says that their legs feel as if they are made of glass. In my experience, patients nowadays rarely say this directly. They usually described a sensation of fragility, as if their legs are easily breakable. Actually, this is more than a mere sensation to Thuja patients.
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Another strange idea they describe is that something is alive in the abdomen. They may go so far as to give elaborately exact descriptions of this feeling, it is so powerful for them. One patient said he felt a small boy inside kicking with the right foot.
Still another fixed idea that I have seen quite frequently in Thuja is the sensation that someone is walking alongside him. This is not a fear, but a delusion. By contrast, Medorrhinum has a FEAR that someone is behind him. Petroleum is close to Thuja in this regard; it has the sensation that someone else is in bed beside him.
On the physical level, as mentioned, there are al kinds of overgrowths of tissue. The tendency to warts, of course, is well-known in Thuja. In addition there may be recurrent herpes on the genitals. Women have uterine fibroids (Calc. flour., Calc. carb., Phosphorus). Fingernails and toenails are ugly and deformed.
A few keynotes should be mentioned perspiration in Thuja has a sweetish smell. There is also a particular intolerance to onions - as well as to pungent foods in general to some degree. A rare and peculiar symptoms which I have seen only twice is running of the nose during stool.
There is a strong tendency to catarrhs of all kinds - leucorrhoea, nasal, urethral etc. The discharges themselves offer few distinguishing characteristics, but the patient in general feels relieved whenever the discharge is present.
The headaches are of a particular type. They usually begin in the forehead usually over the left eye, and then sweep back over the side of the head to the occiput. This can happen on either side, but on the right side it may be either Thuja or Prunus. (If it sweeps the right side and settles specifically on the right occipital protuberance, however, the remedy would more likely be Sanguinaria).
Being a sycotic remedy, Thuja is strongly affected by wet weather. It has all kinds of rheumatic affections. It should be pointed out however, that Thuja is not very effective in the acute stage of gonorrhoea. It is more indicated once gonorrhoea has been suppressed into a deeper, chronic state. For acute gonorrhoea, better remedies to consider are Medorrhinum, Cannabis sativa or Indica, Sasparilla, and many others. If a gonorrhoea has been suppressed with antibiotics, and the patient develops warts, or worse, a chronic cachexias with diminished mental powers, be sure to think of Thuja.
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Thuja also has the typical sycotic instability, but not quite in the same manner as Medorrhinum. The Thuja man may be quite proper, courteous and upright at the office, but he becomes an altogether different person at home. In reality, he is putting on a false facade at the office, but he has enough control to maintain it. Medorrhinum, by contrast, is not so controlled; a Medorrhinum person will tend to explode at any moment. Thuja maintains upright, respectable facade, whereas Medorrhinum can be considered more a "common man".
In this sense, Thuja actually represents a deeper stage of pathology. This can be seen as well when the sycotic trait is transmitted to the next generation. Thuja is much more commonly indicated in wasted children of sycotic parents. Medorrhinum is more likely to be indicated when gonorrhoea is found in the past history of the patient himself.
The Thuja patient is more deeply sick than Medorrhinum. The idea that their legs are easily breakable is a good image for the health of the Thuja patient in general. It is a very fragile condition, on the verge of breaking down completely after just a slight push.
It is somewhat difficult to provide a good explanation for Thuja's usefulness after adverse effects from smallpox vaccinations. Such specific prescribing is ordinarily a distinct departure from the laws of cure. However, this is one exception I can confirm in my own experience. First, let me caution the reader that this only applies to smallpox vaccinations; it does not apply to other immunisations despite what Kent indicates. I believe that this is because of a resonance between the smallpox vaccination and Thuja. It other words, a patient who is very susceptible to smallpox vaccination, is also likely to be sensitive to Thuja. The pustules and vesicles common in smallpox are also found in Thuja symptomatology common in smallpox are also found in Thuja symptomatology. The theme of ugliness also applies, because smallpox commonly leaves ugly scars (as does vaccinations itself). The problem appears to bet hat provings alone cannot provide us with all the phases of particular medicines, hence the precise relationship between smallpox vaccinations and Thuja is not known.
PAGE 207
In every medicine, there is always a sequence of events. Pathology begins somewhere and ends somewhere. To fully know a remedy, we must know each stage very clearly. The same remedy will act both in the beginning phases and in the end stages. For example, if you have a patient with chronic headaches dating from a smallpox vaccination, Thuja will likely cure them even though they may not fit the typical left-sided frontal headaches of Thuja. For this to happen, the patient must be in a phase not yet elarentula restlessness and nervous tension affects primarily the nervous system from the cerebellum and downward into the spine. Reading the Materia Medicas, the collection of symptoms belonging to it seem often inseparable from Arsenicum, but the Arsenicum restlessness arises from the mental/emotional plane, and it never has the excessive energy of Tarentula; it is an anxious anguished restlessness which only secondarily causes the characteristic restless changing of positions. Veratrum is also very hyperactive, but from an overactive mind. In Tarentula, the restlessness arises out of a need to release extreme nervous energy, which results in anxiety and activity of the mind as secondary effects to the disturbance in the nervous system itself.
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The Tarentula activity is always very fast. Everything must be done with the greatest speed. He is even impatient with slowness in other people; if someone is walking slowly on the street, the Tarentula patient may become angry and urge the person to move along more quickly. On his way home, the Tarentula patient may walk faster and faster, until finally he is actually running the last leg. This arises not so much out of a sense of anticipation but out of a compulsion for sheer rapid motion.
Because of the wound-up state of the nervous system, the Tarentula patient is relieved by rhythmic activities and influences. Particularly striking is the soothing and calming influence of the rhythmic vibrations of music. Rhythm seems to channel and release the tension, thereby calming and quieting the nervous system. This is a different mechanism from the improvement from music seen in Aurum, which soothes more directly the mental level, or in Natrum mur. in which music produces a relaxing harmonious environment. Of course, the wrong type of music, particularly at a time when the Tarentula patient is under great pressure, can also trigger off and aggravate the wound-up state. The need for rhythm is the reason for the tendency of Tarentula patients to dance, to jump, and to run; and these movements are not merely gentle and slow. Tarentula patient are driven to wild, frenzied, rapid and vigorous movements. At the same time, however, the movements are graceful, rhythmic and flowing; thus Tarentula is a prime remedy to consider in choreas, such as St. Vitus' Dance of huntington's Chorea.
Such a wound-up nervous system is not surprisingly affected by external pressures and influences. As mentioned, music of the wrong type may aggravate the condition. For the same reasons, Tarentula patients are markedly aggravated by touch. A striking feature is aggravation from bright or strong colours - red, yellow, green, black.
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There is a lot of anxiety in Tarentula, anxiety that things will not get done, that something will go wrong. It is often an irrational fear, but it is a fear that again arises out of the wound-up state of the nervous system. On the other hand, the Arsenicum anxiety is a primary state on the emotional plane itself.
In the first stage, Tarentula is also a hysterical remedy. When the tension and external pressures become too great, the system collapses and produces physical symptoms which prevent the person from continuing. There may be spasms, fainting attacks, convulsive or choreic states, and other physical symptoms. These may last until the pressure is lessened, then disappear only to return again when the tension becomes unbearable. Merely removing stress, however, is not ultimately adequate in Tarentula patients, because the primary problem is the wound-up and tense nervous system.
In the second stage of Tarentula illness, the person begins to lose control and becomes destructive. In such a state of tension, if the restless Tarentula patient is restrained in some way, he becomes violent. At first, the destructiveness occurs only when the patient is alone. It is done in secret, hidden as much as possible from the knowledge of others. This leads to the well-known Tarentula state of fox-like cunning, and the fox-like look in the eyes.
Ultimately, however, the destructiveness becomes more uncontrolled and publicly evident. Tarentula may tear his clothes or break things. Most typically, the violence is directed at himself - self-injury, banging the head, etc - but it may also be directed at others, Stramonium also has a destructive violence, but this violence usually focuses on others and on objects, and it arises from an uncontrolled eruption from the unconscious mental levels rather than from an overly wound-up nervous system.
In the third stage of Tarentula pathology, we see two characteristic types on insanity. These may occur separately in different Tarentula patients, or at separate or alternating times within the same patient; On the one hand, there may be severe and outright violence similar to Stramonium - desire to strike and to kill, and destructive violence with superhuman strength and stamina. On the other hand, there is an erotic mania in which the person is driven to make overt sexual advances to other people, even to strangers. Hyoscyamus also has an erotic mania, but it is more of a passive shamelessness, rather than the active and aggressive, advances of Tarentula.
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On the physical level, Tarentula has varied and profound actions on virtually every organ system. It is very much like Arsenicum in its symptomatology and modalities on the physical level. There is chilliness and great emaciation. There is also periodicity and-paroxysmal ailments. There is a profound action on the heart, with anxiety and palpitations, and mirtal valve degeneration with dyspnoea and palpitations. There are boils and carbuncles on the skin, particularly on the back between and on the scapulae. The genital organs are powerfully affected. In the female, there are fibroids, menorrhagia and nymphomania, with extreme itching of the vulva and high into the vagina. In the male, there is also great sexual desire, with pains and tumours in the testicles.
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Thuja occidentalis
(thuj.)
It is difficult to find precise words to described the Thuja state. We must resort to poetic descriptions. When you first meet a Thuja-patient you sense something which makes you cautious. He or she is very slow to trust others, and you have the feeling that he does not portray truthfully who he really is inside. Of course, everyone withholds information to some degree, but in Thuja you sense that there is ore than the usual secretiveness. More than that, you have the feeling that what is being withheld is ugly - not pleasant to bring to view, either to the patient or to the prescriber. The closest we can come to describing the Thuja patient is by the words UGLY and DECEIT.
A Thuja patient is sneaky and manipulative. He or she will purposely withhold information just to test you, to see if you know what you are doing. For example, a woman has a fainting spell; she says, "I felt my soul leaving me, and I was afraid I was going to die". She gives some more information, but she does not tell you that she ate a lot of heavy food the day before. She asks, "Do you think it could be my stomach"? Having no information to suggest this possibility, you say, "No, it was more likely a drop in blood pressure". Only then does she volunteer, "But yesterday I ate a lot of heavy food"! In this way, she tries to catch you out.
Thuja patients are always reserved. They take the position of observer - they observe everything while offering nothing of themselves. They do not allow any form of deep communication. They are very closed within themselves, but not because they lack feelings. They are merely reserved and suspicious about what might happen to them if they enter into deep communication.
Thuja patients are hard people. The hardness in their emotional expression manifest even on the physical level - as hard tumours. Just so, the ugliness in their soul manifests as ugliness in the tumours.
Do not be fooled by mere appearances, however. I recall a very nice an who did very well after Thuja, but in whom it was difficult to see the Thuja essence. He as one of the nicest people one could possibly meet - very sensitive a poet. Nevertheless, he himself felt he was distant from people. He felt unable to truly communicate directly and personally, so he turned to poetry as an outlet. To see Thuja in such a case, of course, requires quite a subtle understanding of both the patient and the remedy, but once given Thuja produces great benefit in these patients.
PAGE 204
What exactly has the sycotic miasm done to such a patient? At first, early in the person's history, it stimulates the more base instincts. These then insist upon expression. Society, however, steps in and puts the patent "in his place". He is punished and learns to control himself. This ten leads to the condition we see in Thuja. He learns to not display his real character any more, even though the tendencies remain inside and continue to cry out for expression. He finds ways to cheat. He becomes very proper. It is as if he has found out that being freely expressive of his instincts does not pay in society, so he becomes very controlled. In this way, he is tuned in to the opinions of others, but it is not a matter of being afraid of what others think, as in Lycopodium. In Thuja, it is a coldly calculated choice, for practical reasons only.
The dullness and forgetfulness eventually progresses into a despondence and dissatisfaction which can be quite deep. This is not as severe as in Nitric acid, which is also very dissatisfied, but specifically over issues of health. Thuja may have anxiety about health, but will face the problem directly. These patients are dissatisfied and despondent, but they are also cold, calculating, manipulative and scheming. They have cut themselves off. You can never know what is in their minds.
For this reason, the symptomatology in Thuja is usually UNCLEAR. You feel there is something there which you cannot quite grasp. Consequently, it is rare that you feel fully confident of a Thuja prescription. The full image is never clear because the patient never opens up enough.
As the mental pathology progresses, they develop fixed ideas. These may take different forms. Most strikingly, they describe a feeling that their legs are breakable. Kent says that their legs feel as if they are made of glass. In my experience, patients nowadays rarely say this directly. They usually described a sensation of fragility, as if their legs are easily breakable. Actually, this is more than a mere sensation to Thuja patients.
PAGE 205
Another strange idea they describe is that something is alive in the abdomen. They may go so far as to give elaborately exact descriptions of this feeling, it is so powerful for them. One patient said he felt a small boy inside kicking with the right foot.
Still another fixed idea that I have seen quite frequently in Thuja is the sensation that someone is walking alongside him. This is not a fear, but a delusion. By contrast, Medorrhinum has a FEAR that someone is behind him. Petroleum is close to Thuja in this regard; it has the sensation that someone else is in bed beside him.
On the physical level, as mentioned, there are al kinds of overgrowths of tissue. The tendency to warts, of course, is well-known in Thuja. In addition there may be recurrent herpes on the genitals. Women have uterine fibroids (Calc. flour., Calc. carb., Phosphorus). Fingernails and toenails are ugly and deformed.
A few keynotes should be mentioned perspiration in Thuja has a sweetish smell. There is also a particular intolerance to onions - as well as to pungent foods in general to some degree. A rare and peculiar symptoms which I have seen only twice is running of the nose during stool.
There is a strong tendency to catarrhs of all kinds - leucorrhoea, nasal, urethral etc. The discharges themselves offer few distinguishing characteristics, but the patient in general feels relieved whenever the discharge is present.
The headaches are of a particular type. They usually begin in the forehead usually over the left eye, and then sweep back over the side of the head to the occiput. This can happen on either side, but on the right side it may be either Thuja or Prunus. (If it sweeps the right side and settles specifically on the right occipital protuberance, however, the remedy would more likely be Sanguinaria).
Being a sycotic remedy, Thuja is strongly affected by wet weather. It has all kinds of rheumatic affections. It should be pointed out however, that Thuja is not very effective in the acute stage of gonorrhoea. It is more indicated once gonorrhoea has been suppressed into a deeper, chronic state. For acute gonorrhoea, better remedies to consider are Medorrhinum, Cannabis sativa or Indica, Sasparilla, and many others. If a gonorrhoea has been suppressed with antibiotics, and the patient develops warts, or worse, a chronic cachexias with diminished mental powers, be sure to think of Thuja.
PAGE 206
Thuja also has the typical sycotic instability, but not quite in the same manner as Medorrhinum. The Thuja man may be quite proper, courteous and upright at the office, but he becomes an altogether different person at home. In reality, he is putting on a false facade at the office, but he has enough control to maintain it. Medorrhinum, by contrast, is not so controlled; a Medorrhinum person will tend to explode at any moment. Thuja maintains upright, respectable facade, whereas Medorrhinum can be considered more a "common man".
In this sense, Thuja actually represents a deeper stage of pathology. This can be seen as well when the sycotic trait is transmitted to the next generation. Thuja is much more commonly indicated in wasted children of sycotic parents. Medorrhinum is more likely to be indicated when gonorrhoea is found in the past history of the patient himself.
The Thuja patient is more deeply sick than Medorrhinum. The idea that their legs are easily breakable is a good image for the health of the Thuja patient in general. It is a very fragile condition, on the verge of breaking down completely after just a slight push.
It is somewhat difficult to provide a good explanation for Thuja's usefulness after adverse effects from smallpox vaccinations. Such specific prescribing is ordinarily a distinct departure from the laws of cure. However, this is one exception I can confirm in my own experience. First, let me caution the reader that this only applies to smallpox vaccinations; it does not apply to other immunisations despite what Kent indicates. I believe that this is because of a resonance between the smallpox vaccination and Thuja. It other words, a patient who is very susceptible to smallpox vaccination, is also likely to be sensitive to Thuja. The pustules and vesicles common in smallpox are also found in Thuja symptomatology common in smallpox are also found in Thuja symptomatology. The theme of ugliness also applies, because smallpox commonly leaves ugly scars (as does vaccinations itself). The problem appears to bet hat provings alone cannot provide us with all the phases of particular medicines, hence the precise relationship between smallpox vaccinations and Thuja is not known.
PAGE 207
In every medicine, there is always a sequence of events. Pathology begins somewhere and ends somewhere. To fully know a remedy, we must know each stage very clearly. The same remedy will act both in the beginning phases and in the end stages. For example, if you have a patient with chronic headaches dating from a smallpox vaccination, Thuja will likely cure them even though they may not fit the typical left-sided frontal headaches of Thuja. For this to happen, the patient must be in a phase not yet elucidated in the provings.
This is why we sometimes must rely heavily on the causative factor in a case. We known that smallpox can cause meningitis, an ailment characterised by the most violent of headaches. Nevertheless, it is important to specify that Thuja will bring about cure on such specific causative indications OFTEN - but by no means ALWAYS. One must always take the full case to determine if another remedy covers the case adequately. If not, then one is justified to use Thuja.
Another ROUTINE use of Thuja is in warts which have been suppressed. Here it is appropriate to THINK of Thuja. Caution is again in order, however, because I can testify from personal experience to several mistakes made by just such routine use of Thuja.
Thuja is a very deep acting remedy that can produce some amazing surprises. You may come to a point of desperation in a case. No progress has been made after several prescriptions. The patient is very closed, proper, and correct - you may even think of Kali carb. but it doesn't work. Finally, you realise that the patient is not really being straight with you; there is this manipulative deviousness. Once you see this, you give Thuja, and you are likely to see dramatic benefits indeed.

In minutus@yahoogroups.com, Ellen Madono wrote:

[Ellen Madono]

Hi,
Thank-you. That was a very interesting read. What is your source?
She is so much more like Sabina which is the same botanical family as
Thuja. Maybe since sabina did not work as a 6c, I should try Thuja.
My kids all did not like her. They are very sensitive. I don't
dislike many people. Maybe she is ugly, hiding and manipulative. She
is trying to get out of paying for treatment, that's pretty
manipulative. Sankaran's approach is to identify her as a miasm.
But, the difference between Sabina as the cancer miasm ala Sankaran
and Thuja the sycotic miasm of course is not at all clear to me.
Best,
Ellen

[Laura Gibson]

Would you mind sharing where this excerpt came from?

Thanks

Laura Gibson
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, "usrardr" wrote:

[Rosemary C. Hyde, Ph.D.]

Hi, Ellen, miasmatically, the way in which she is trying to avoid payment
would probably give you an indication of the dominant miasm in this case. If
you're pretty sure you're looking at someone who needs a conifer remedy,
then the miasmatic identification could indeed distinguish between one
remedy in the family and others (along with dominant sx and SRPs, of
course). Your kids' reaction to her would tell me that the remedy is
probably not in the psoric range, but probably either sycotic or syphilitic
-- i.e. there's a hidden destructive or shameful (shameful isn't quite the
right word, but I can't find a word that would be) element. The fact that
Sabina didn't work in a 6c wouldn't necessarily say that it's not the right
remedy for sure -- that's a pretty low potency, and if she needs a much
higher potency, it might not be sufficient to show an effect.

Rosemary

All men -- whether they go by the name of Americans or Russians or Chinese
or British or Malayans or Indians or Africans -- have obligations to one
another that transcend their obligations to their sovereign societies.
-Norman Cousins, author, editor, journalist and professor (1915-1990)

[Ellen Madono]

On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 4:54 AM, Rosemary C. Hyde, Ph.D.
wrote:

Dear Rosemary,
You are thinking the way I am thinking. The other way to interpret
the lack of information is she is really the engineering type - the
mineral. So she is just short of description. I really know a lot
about her、shameful stuff. She really does not seem to feel much.
Can't even describe how her body changes when she is getting irritated
right in front of me. I perceive that she is suffering from the
conium type reaction, "I can't feel because it makes me feel worse to
feel," describing symptoms make her feel worse. That is not shame,
but it leads to hiding in effect and conium is in the sycotic
syphilitic sphere (cancer). I am not saying she is conium, but the
reaction is the same as what I have seen with conium. Perhaps that is
another facet of hidding.
Best,
Ellen

[Shannon Nelson]

Hi Ellen,

When you say you know "a lot about her, shameful stuff. She really
doesn't seem to feel much..." are you saying that you know things you
would expect her to feel ashamed of, yet she seems not to? If that's
the case, might any of these apply? (I was mostly looking for the
third; the first two seem a bit over-strong...)

Mind; MORAL AFFECTIONS; ANTISOCIAL (SOCIETY, MANKIND; AVERSION to)(p,
9, 0) (9) : aesc., anac., Cic., herin., ilx-a., lap-gr-m., pseuts-m.,
sac-alb., syph.
Mind; MORAL AFFECTIONS; CRIMINAL, disposition to become a, without
remorse (MIRILLI'S THEMES; CRIMINAL)(p, 5, 0) (5) : ars., bell., hep.,
lach., merc.
Mind; MORAL AFFECTIONS; WANT of moral feeling (p, 70, 1-1) (70) :
abrot., acetan., achy., aego-p., alco., am-c., Anac., androc., anh.,
ars., aster., aur., BELL., bism., Bufo, cass., cere-s., cham., chin.,
choc., clem., Coca, Cocain., cocc., coloc., con., convo-d., croc.,
cur., falco-p., flag-l., flav., germ., haliae-lc., hep., herin., hura,
HYOS., Kali-br., kali-c., kali-n., lac-c., Laur., lyc., mand., Morph.,
nat-m., nit-ac., nit-s-d., nux-v., Op., ozone, ped., perla, ph-ac.,
phasc-c., pic-ac., Plat., plut-n., polyst., psil., raph., sabad., Sep.,
squil., STRAM., stry-p., Tarent., thuj., VERAT.

Shannon

[Ellen Madono]

On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Shannon & Bob Nelson
wrote:

Hi Shannon,
No I mean, they are things that some people might not tell you because
they feel ashamed such as condolymata, being fat as a child and young
person, even not having money. None of this is hidden. I think her
feelings are hidden from her--suppressed. She becomes irritated and
might have a tantrum or weep, but she is really depressed and it is
too dangerous to go there. SHe has already experienced depression and
does not want to experience it again.
Best,
Ellen