Need suggestions for Post Partem Depression

[McPhee Family]

This is a woman who has had 3 children and PPD following all three. Has had a 4th - had homeopathy throughout her pregnancy. Pregnancy was uneventful and had a healthy homebirth. Baby is doing great, nursing well, sleeping well, etc. Three weeks post partum this Monday.
Mom is very *afraid* of not being able to sleep (her main symptom) with the PPD in the past. She has a great day with no problems but as evening approaches she starts getting fearful. She said she is terrified she won't be able to sleep. Then she gets a knot in her stomach and it brings on diarrhea. She feels random burning in her back, neck, and arms. She had some watery greenish diarrhea. She has issues with not wanting to fail or let people down but she says it is more about being judged. She does not want to be judged. And so now she is worried that everyone is watching her for PPD and she doesn't want to be judged for it.
It is really more a fear of becoming depressed or not being able to sleep rather than feeling depressed that is creating the anxiety.
Initially Cocculus helped, she slept well but then made her feel down. Then Ignatia helped - she slept well with no problems. Then she aggravated with a dissimilar symptom. Then Mag Carb helped her sleep with no problem but she felt down the next day. Last night Arsenicum aggravated her badly and she felt like she didn't sleep at all and also had depressive thoughts which she hadn't had before. Today she feels overwhelmed and fearful. She feels like she is psyching herself out.
Pulsatilla and Sepia were the two remedies that helped her throughout her pregnancy. However, I'm not quite sure I see either in the symptoms now.
She is consulting with her midwife for help as well. Wondering if anything jumps out at anyone. She talks a good deal about being fearful.
Thanks!
Truly,
Erica

[Jean Doherty]

Maybe worth looking at flower remedies. Worse towards evening ?? phosphorus as Kali phos, knot in tum' ?/ Kali Carb both can have diarrhea and I think Kali Carb burning pain. Just thoughts on reading , Jean

[Rochelle]

Sounds like an Arg Nit case to me with the diarrhoea from anticipatory anxiety!!!
Rochelle
Registered Homeopath
EFT(Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk

[Leilanae]

This is a woman who has had 3 children and PPD following all three. Has had a 4th - had homeopathy throughout her pregnancy. Pregnancy was uneventful and had a healthy homebirth. Baby is doing great, nursing well, sleeping well, etc. Three weeks post partum this Monday.
Mom is very *afraid* of not being able to sleep (her main symptom)
with the PPD in the past. She has a great day with no problems but as evening approaches she starts getting fearful. She said she is terrified she won't be able to sleep. Then she gets a knot in her stomach and it brings on diarrhea.
She feels random burning in her back, neck, and arms. She had some watery greenish diarrhea. She has issues with not wanting to fail or let people down but she says it is more about being judged. She does not want to be judged. And so now she is worried that everyone is watching her for PPD and she doesn't want to be judged for it.
It is really more a fear of becoming depressed or not being able to sleep rather than feeling depressed that is creating the anxiety.
Initially Cocculus helped, she slept well but then made her feel down. Then Ignatia helped - she slept well with no problems. Then she aggravated with a dissimilar symptom. Then Mag Carb helped her sleep with no problem but she felt down the next day. Last night Arsenicum aggravated her badly and she felt like she didn't sleep at all and also had depressive thoughts which she hadn't had before. Today she feels overwhelmed and fearful. She feels like she is psyching herself out.
Pulsatilla and Sepia were the two remedies that helped her throughout her pregnancy. However, I'm not quite sure I see either in the symptoms now.
She is consulting with her midwife for help as well. Wondering if anything jumps out at anyone. She talks a good deal about being fearful.
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Mind; SLEEPLESSNESS, WITH
Mind; ANXIETY; EVENING; Agg.
Mind; FEAR (ANXIETY)
Stool; WATERY (RECTUM; DIARRHEA)
Stool; GREEN (FROTHY; GREEN)
Abdomen; KNOTTED SENSATION
Mind; CONFIDENCE; WANT of self
Puls 26/7
Sulph 21/7
Verat 21/7
Cham 18/7
Bell 15/7
Ars 23/6
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Sep 16/6 (was 18th)
Was wondering if the random burning in neck, back and arms was mechanical due to nursing?
Interesting case.
Leilanae

[Rosemary C. Hyde, Ph.D.]

I notice Verat came up high in the analysis – can you see that remedy for this person? The fear of being judged could well fit into the Verat fear of losing social position.
Rosemary
I have always found that mercy bears richer fruits than strict justice.

-Abraham Lincoln, 16th U.S. President (1809-1865)
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of leilanae
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 6:34 PM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Fw: [Minutus] Need suggestions for Post Partem Depression
This is a woman who has had 3 children and PPD following all three. Has had a 4th - had homeopathy throughout her pregnancy. Pregnancy was uneventful and had a healthy homebirth. Baby is doing great, nursing well, sleeping well, etc. Three weeks post partum this Monday.
Mom is very *afraid* of not being able to sleep (her main symptom)
with the PPD in the past. She has a great day with no problems but as evening approaches she starts getting fearful. She said she is terrified she won't be able to sleep. Then she gets a knot in her stomach and it brings on diarrhea.
She feels random burning in her back, neck, and arms. She had some watery greenish diarrhea. She has issues with not wanting to fail or let people down but she says it is more about being judged. She does not want to be judged. And so now she is worried that everyone is watching her for PPD and she doesn't want to be judged for it.
It is really more a fear of becoming depressed or not being able to sleep rather than feeling depressed that is creating the anxiety.
Initially Cocculus helped, she slept well but then made her feel down. Then Ignatia helped - she slept well with no problems. Then she aggravated with a dissimilar symptom. Then Mag Carb helped her sleep with no problem but she felt down the next day. Last night Arsenicum aggravated her badly and she felt like she didn't sleep at all and also had depressive thoughts which she hadn't had before. Today she feels overwhelmed and fearful. She feels like she is psyching herself out.
Pulsatilla and Sepia were the two remedies that helped her throughout her pregnancy. However, I'm not quite sure I see either in the symptoms now.
She is consulting with her midwife for help as well. Wondering if anything jumps out at anyone. She talks a good deal about being fearful.

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Mind; SLEEPLESSNESS, WITH

Mind; ANXIETY; EVENING; Agg.

Mind; FEAR (ANXIETY)

Stool; WATERY (RECTUM; DIARRHEA)

Stool; GREEN (FROTHY; GREEN)

Abdomen; KNOTTED SENSATION

Mind; CONFIDENCE; WANT of self
Puls 26/7

Sulph 21/7

Verat 21/7

Cham 18/7

Bell 15/7

Ars 23/6

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Sep 16/6 (was 18th)
Was wondering if the random burning in neck, back and arms was mechanical due to nursing?
Interesting case.
Leilanae

[Leilanae]

Hi Rosemary,
This is how it shifts with that rubric added:

Mind; SLEEPLESSNESS, WITH (m, 185, 0) (185)
Mind; ANXIETY; EVENING; Agg. (t, 112, 28-120) (112)
Mind; FEAR (ANXIETY)(p, 666, 1095-6584) (666)
Stool; WATERY (RECTUM; DIARRHEA)(p, 316, 41-352) (316)
Stool; GREEN (FROTHY; GREEN)(p, 168, 26-104) (168)
Abdomen; KNOTTED SENSATION (BALL SENSATION)(p, 20, 2-2) (20)
Mind; CONFIDENCE; WANT of self (p, 214, 19-56) (214)
Mind; SOCIAL; POSITION, concerned about
Puls 27/8
Verat 25/8
Sulph 22/8
Bell 16/8
Knotted not represented
Calc 22/7
Phos 21/7
Lyc 20/7
Nux-v 20/7
Rhus-t 20/7

[Chris_Gillen]

It may be a simple Gels case if her problems are focussed around a nervous anticipation and fear of not being able to function properly without a decent, refreshing sleep. This can easily lead to states of insomnia and physical and mental exhaustion down the track, which your patient is fully aware of. All normal fears and anxieties are exaggerated when we're exhausted or full of anticipation, and oversensitive to other peoples' expectations. The greenish diarrhoea is also indicative of Gels, as is the inability to turn off the mind,("uncontrollable thinking" - Boericke) when trying to fall asleep.
Hope useful,
Chris

[Jean Doherty]

Would help greatly, maybe mistaken in that thought, if we knew some food and thirst modalities.
Great to follow the suggestions.
Jean

[usrardr]

sepia is the best medicine for ppd.dr israr ul haque

http://sites.google.com/site/drisrarshomoeoclinics/
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[Sheri Nakken]

Only if the person's symptoms match sepia's symptom picture.
There are many many remedies that it could be.
Sheri

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