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eternalhealth
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Re: thought s- violence

Post by eternalhealth »

hello All
i may be in position that I have to address a situation with the following imbalances - Just research at the moment.
I am thinking Tub, lyc, or possibly anacard. Would appreciate thoughts on Rx that may be possible connection to below.
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Male, history aggressive, very insecure, feels inferior, over time displays of wealth have become important, has to appear to be best. many licentious affairs. unable to maintain emotional connection in a family. Attempts to physically destroy offspring. Liked by many people. Generous. Hates the people he is generous to. No boundaries. Circumvents any legal repercusssions of behaviour. Swears, screams, physically throws people out who disagree with him. Diverticular disease, kidney stones. Has surrounded himself by persons who want him for financial gain.
Also if using LM's how would you dose?
thanks
Beverly


Shannon Nelson
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Re: thought s- violence

Post by Shannon Nelson »

Hi Beverly,
Interesting, good luck!! I wondered about fluoric acid; here are some
rubrics from that which might apply?

Mind; ADULTEROUS (INCESTUOUS)(p, 15, 0) (15) *
Mind; CONTRADICTION; INTOLERANT of (p, 109, 8-40) (109) *
Mind; CRUELTY, BRUTALITY, INHUMANITY (CUT, MUTILATE, SLIT, DESIRE TO;
OTHERS)(p, 52, 8-17) (52) *
Mind; DECEITFUL, SLY (CHARLATAN)(p, 43, 4-13) (43) *
Mind; DELUSIONS, IMAGINATIONS; CHILD, children; Drive children out of
the house, he must (MIRILLI'S THEMES; CHILD)(p, 1, 0) (1) *
Mind; DESTRUCTIVENESS (BREAK THINGS, DESIRE TO)(p, 70, 12-23) (70) *
Mind; DICTATORIAL (ANSWER, ANSWERING, ANSWERS; DICTATORIAL)(p, 69,
5-30) (69) *
Mind; FAMILY, AVERSION TO (CHILDREN; AVERSION to)(p, 35, 5-7) (35) ***
Mind; FAMILY, AVERSION TO; TALKS pleasantly to others (MIRILLI'S
THEMES; FAMILY)(p, 1, 0) (1) *
Mind; HATRED; REVENGE, and (MIRILLI'S THEMES; ANGER, VEXATION)(m, 36,
0) (36) *
Mind; LASCIVIOUSNESS, LUSTFULNESS (AMATIVENESS)(p, 106, 32-56) (106) ***
Mind; LEWDNESS, OBSCENE (AMOROUS DISPOSITION)(p, 47, 4-27) (47) *
Mind; MATERIALISTIC, VERY (p, 6, 0) (6) *
Mind; RESPONSIBILITY; AVERSION to (p, 17, 2-2) (17) *

All the broken bonds, and would it be accurate to say he's
materialistic? That's the impression I got. But I'm not sure whether
insecurity is part of that picture; if not, possibly a fluoride salt?

Or maybe something animal (or even androct.?)? Sorry, just throwing
out ideas. What an interesting picture!
Shannon


eternalhealth
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Re: thought s- violence

Post by eternalhealth »

Thanks Shannon
I feel the hatred for the people he is generous to may be to do with the fact that he is not generous to them because he likes them but because he is buying their attention/respect and a deep feeling on unworthiness to have respect in his own right from the type of people he would like to be receiving it from. and a resentment of having to give so much to those people who cannot help him and who he would not normally want to have close to him if he was balanced..
it seems like he has to buy everyone in the world because he cannot have/maintain 1 close emotional relationship that is real- he cannot let anyone see the emptiness in him so he pushes away anyone who would really have cared. A life of lies is maintained to support these relationships.
Also can take no advice and cannot be cooperative with anyone - very selfish.
The generosity in the main although to everyone outside family, is mainly to those who are down and out with a physical disability who will not leave him as they have no-one else or someone wealthy who might be able to advance him. There appears to be a fear of not being able to survive.
There is also now a matter of physical impotence perhaps coming from an emotional feeling of impotence/powerlessness replacing a previous great amorousness. The choice of women has usually been one of someone who has connection to money and who can advance his ability to be seen as one who is respected. And now he knows that the women he is involved with are there because of the wealth.
i will look at the fluoric acid
Beverly


Robjna
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Re: thought s- violence

Post by Robjna »

Hi Beverly

You need to find the core issue and prescribe on that imo.

Prescribing for all the symptoms that have developed because of the core issue is almost a waste of time in cases with such a high intensity imbalance as you have described unless the core issue is discovered which has led to these presenting symptoms.

Keep working back through all these presenting symptoms and find that core issue.

There are really only a handful of core issues that present in humans/animals, and most have to do with survival and integrity/stability of ones perceived territory etc...

Once you have found that, you can then match the presenting symptoms to fine tune the choice of rem.

It is my experience that when someone is behaving like this, without an organic brain injury/lesion of some kind, purely behavioural, there are usually two separate issues involved, leading to the total collapse of control, so if you can find one, and release the need for that one, things should calm down enough for you to then work on the other one.

Sounds like quite a challenge.
Robyn
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hello All
i may be in position that I have to address a situation with the following imbalances - Just research at the moment.
I am thinking Tub, lyc, or possibly anacard. Would appreciate thoughts on Rx that may be possible connection to below.
-------------------

Male, history aggressive, very insecure, feels inferior, over time displays of wealth have become important, has to appear to be best. many licentious affairs. unable to maintain emotional connection in a family. Attempts to physically destroy offspring. Liked by many people. Generous. Hates the people he is generous to. No boundaries. Circumvents any legal repercusssions of behaviour. Swears, screams, physically throws people out who disagree with him. Diverticular disease, kidney stones. Has surrounded himself by persons who want him for financial gain.
Also if using LM's how would you dose?
thanks
Beverly


Jean Doherty
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Re: thought s- violence

Post by Jean Doherty »

Could it be that the core issue mentioned by Robjna is position in
society ??Veratrum . His family and childhod history might reveal
something. Best Wishes, Jean


Fran Sheffield
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Re: thought s- violence

Post by Fran Sheffield »

I have treated a couple of people like this with Lyc.

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Rochelle
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Re: thought s- violence

Post by Rochelle »

Looks likes Lyc to me with the impotence, generosity to outsiders rather than family, insecurity , digestive stuff. I would have expected more liver than kidneys. Does he have vertical liver lines between his eyebrows? What is he like with superiors rather than subordinates?
(My ISP is playing up so I am not getting all my post so sorry if someone has suggested this already)
I don't do LM's so probably would go for the 1M.
Rochelle
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eternalhealth
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Re: thought s- violence

Post by eternalhealth »

Yes, Lyc was my first thought. Wanted to run it by everyone. Always good to have other expert input.
I did have opportunity to give this person lyc a few years ago. Only saw them once. used 30c water dose with dose of 1 drop. Unfortunatley because of the nature of the perosn, no self control etc. they decided to dose themselves with 6 drops or so and gave themselves kidney pain. That is why I was wondering what you thought about LM's. I have limited experiece using LM's and have always found them to aggravate but I know many of you use themsuccessfully so need a very gentle way of dosing that still takes into account personality. perhaps 1 dose of 1M. What do you all think?
Also forgot to mention this person must continually travel [possibly to get away from themselves as they are unhappy]
Do you think from a research point of view a dose of tub 1m might be applicable to this type of situation
Thanks
Beverly


eternalhealth
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Re: thought s- violence

Post by eternalhealth »

History is Cultivates superiors and subjugates subordinates but has put themselves in a position where there now are no superior and has no respect for anybody but wants utter respect for themselves


Shannon Nelson
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Re: thought s- violence

Post by Shannon Nelson »

I wondered whether Lyc would go so far as "attempts to physically
destroy offspring"??

Beverly, the your LM question, personally I would think that high
potency in water dose might be more appropriate, since he doesn't sound
to me like a good candidate for messing with drops on a schedule, or
for thoughtful self-appraisal to determine dosage; but he does seem
like a decent risk for taking a few doses and deciding he's "fine the
way he is" and stopping! I'd rather go for a high potency dose that
will act for a (much) longer time. Yes you don't want to aggravate,
but to me that risk seems far less than the other. Just my two
cents...

Shannon


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