water potencies and dilution

[Irene de Villiers]

I've used the above kind of aqueous dosing mostly with C potencies
(which I always use aqueous).
Whenever I have used an LM potency for myself, I have had no result
unless taking it directly from the bottle, and even then not that
much effect. I seem to need more remedy than most to get a result. I
think it is just a case of individualizing for each person. Some are
so sensitive they need 8 dilution cups per dose. Others need much
more per dose, and higher potency too. And there is everywhere in-
between.

I am VERY keen to try Dr Roz's Fibonacci potencies (see recent Hpathy
article this year) to solve the potency problem once and for all, and
with real logic. I sure hope that they catch on and get to be
generally available. Don't you find the approach eye-opening?
Oh. I certainly learned differently. However I do not find them
useful in my animal cases. No time to mess about to find the right
potency and even then it often does not help. Animal cases can go far
too fast, and seem to need the "kick in the pants" of a C.
Ideally I'd like to use Fibonacci series for these cases - they may/
should get me further than I can get with C's - but for now the cost
of making the remedies in those potencies - and the time to do it -
is tricky.

Namaste,
Irene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD]

Re cost of Fibonacci remedies: my provider in Wellington, the Simillimum Pharmacy, charges NZ$1.00 per level of potency for newly produced remedies; there are now about 60 different remedies ready, so their costs should be lower as all the different steps are kept in reserve.
I do believe that as a practitioner you could even negotiate a better price for a stock of the remedies you use most in your own practice.
Just ask them: orders@arnica.co.nz
And I have unfortunately no financial interests in the pharmacy, I tried to buy shares but they wouldn't sell them to me (
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind".
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[Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD]

Re cost of Fibonacci remedies: my provider in Wellington, the Simillimum Pharmacy, charges NZ$1.00 per level of potency for newly produced remedies; there are now about 60 different remedies ready, so their costs should be lower as all the different steps are kept in reserve.
I do believe that as a practitioner you could even negotiate a better price for a stock of the remedies you use most in your own practice.
Just ask them: orders@arnica.co.nz
And I have unfortunately no financial interests in the pharmacy, I tried to buy shares but they wouldn't sell them to me (
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind".
Visit http://drjoesnaturalmedicine.blogspot.com for some articles and comments.

[Jean Doherty]

Must say your hypothesis beautifully presented, Jean
Re cost of Fibonacci remedies: my provider in Wellington, the Simillimum Pharmacy, charges NZ$1.00 per level of potency for newly produced remedies; there are now about 60 different remedies ready, so their costs should be lower as all the different steps are kept in reserve.
I do believe that as a practitioner you could even negotiate a better price for a stock of the remedies you use most in your own practice.
Just ask them: orders@arnica.co.nz
And I have unfortunately no financial interests in the pharmacy, I tried to buy shares but they wouldn't sell them to me (
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind".
Visit http://drjoesnaturalmedicine.blogspot.com for some articles and comments.

[Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD]

Thanks.
And pretty please, anyone using it, send me results, comments, problems, I want to write an update within a year, not wait 20 years for enough cases to analyze..........
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind".
Visit http://drjoesnaturalmedicine.blogspot.com for some articles and comments.

[Shannon Nelson]

Can anyone send a link to the Fibonacci article?

Irene--Do I understand you right, that you find Cs more effective for
you than LM potencies, even when the dilution is the same? (Am I right
in assuming you're using high potency Cs, or do you use low also?)
Similar questions re your animal cases? I have heard it said that LMs
are more equivalent to high potencies than to low, but honestly I don't
understand in what sense--possibly because my experience with them is
still limited; in their pacing they are certainly more similar to low
potencies, and I have not found low potencies to be "physical only" in
their action, as some have said! But I do generally move to high
potencies rather than try to finish a case (hah, are they ever really
finished??) on low potencies; maybe LMs are different in that way.)

Thanks,
Shannon

[suissa_m]

It seems so promising – so please – keep us informed.

Best wishes
Maly

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[Irene de Villiers]

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I'm not sure what you mean by "even when dilution is the same"
but - Regardless of dilution - yes that's true.
In C potencies, I use one tablet or globule in a 3/4 cup water,
succussed 100 times. Dosed from there, with 20 succussions between
doses.

IN the few cases where I tried LM after C failed - LM did not help.
Example:
Case can not make progress on 30C, as it is not enough potency for
strong disease.
Case aggravates on 200C, even with many dilution cups.
Tried LM, and case does not progress. No aggravation but no progress,
and disease worsening faster than I can guess what LM potency to try
next, much less time to work through all of them.
I went to "rainbow" potency of mixed 30C and 200C, and gave drop
doses. This seemed to help.

To me this kind of case seems the ideal one to try Fibonacci series.
The problem is in predicting which remedies I'll need. They vary so
much in these cases. It seems that the simillimum is related more to
what was behind the illness, than to the most prevalent symptoms of
the illness. Also the illness I work with attacks differently in
different innate constitutional types (ICT), for example will damage
liver first in Lyc types, kidneys first in others, pancreas in still
others, or brain in others. And so on - with remedy needed to match.

SO maybe I need to consult my crystal ball and get one or two
remedies made which I choose clairvoyantly for the next cases:-)
I start with cats near death, so I start low potency, like 12C or
30C, and progress quickly or as needed (varies a lot) up the
potencies to 200C, 1M (and more if needed.) Sometimes I'll give 3
doses of 30C aqueous an hour apart in a case near loss, and then slow
down to twice a day, changing to 200C after 5 to 10 doses, depending
on emotional response of the cat. (It needs to be positive at all
times). Other cases need a dose every day and a half initially, then
only one drop per week. Very variable.
I make an educated guess as to where to start - then the rest of the
dosing is per *emotional* response of cat.
I gather they are supposed to work more deeply, but I have not found
that in animal cases I see.
Maybe they could if one had time to go through LM1, LM2, LM3, etc
OR
Maybe one needs to at least use Fibonacci LMs like LM1, LM2, LM3,
LM5, LM8, LM13, LM21.
Not physical Only - no remedy is physical only - but useful when only
physical symptoms are obvious, and the disease is weak.
Potency needed to cure, must be in proportion to energy of disease. A
small or local physical issue only needs a small potency - so
calendula or arnica cream are low potency.
Generally I use higher for emotional issues.
Example 200C for balancing general emotional/behavioral issues
related to ICT, but for example Arnica 10M for something as specific
as "fear of hands approaching" as we get in some show cats for example.

I think of higher potencies as more like a laser beam - you need to
be more accurate in where you are aiming, but it is powerful. Lower
potencies have less powerful but broader action, more like a regular
light - or said another way - higher potencies need to be selected
more accurately and will act more deeply, and lower potencies are
more forgiving on selection and act less deeply but not such great
accuracy is needed in selection.
Yes they can finish:-)
In animals they can finish anyway:-)
I use simillimum in increasing potencies till health is restored -
and then taper it off at the highest one used, to build resistance.
Alternatively, it works to use ICT preventively in a healthy animal.

At least that's how I see it:-)

Namaste,
Irene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."