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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."
uterine fibroid
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Re: uterine fibroid
I found MSM (sulfur crystals) helpful. Maybe it's another of those maladies that can be multi-factorial.
Shannon
I donx27;t think the skin test for iodine is all that reliable because evaporation has to do with vapor pressure if the liquid and the skinx27;s internal and the ambient temperature around. Sorry to burst bubbles, but I just took a load of chemistry last semester and this semester.
I am on the fence regarding iodine and uterine fibroids. I didnx27;t x27;t get any relief, but others swear by it. I used to take iodoral. i may considerbtking Lugolx27;s in tincture form. What do you think of iodine as a remedy? There is a homeopathic remedy that is based on iodine. I with I knew more about the kinds of remedies to remediate my condition. (Sigh).
Also, I am interested in weight loss. Some saynthat there is a relationship betweem an enlarged uterus, thyroid and metabolism--that is metabolism slowing down. I need to speed it back up?
Thanks,
Angie
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There's a quick skin test one can do to see if their body really needs iodine,
Take some iodine tincture, used for first aid.
Apply a 1 inch square on on flat side of your forearm or any area of body where you have little hair.
The speed at which the iodine orange color disappears shows how fast your body is absorbing it.
I forgot the exact timing but if disappears in a few hours vs a day or more, your body requires iodine.
If a bunch of us try it and report their findings, we might get a general idea.
Susan
Shannon
I donx27;t think the skin test for iodine is all that reliable because evaporation has to do with vapor pressure if the liquid and the skinx27;s internal and the ambient temperature around. Sorry to burst bubbles, but I just took a load of chemistry last semester and this semester.
I am on the fence regarding iodine and uterine fibroids. I didnx27;t x27;t get any relief, but others swear by it. I used to take iodoral. i may considerbtking Lugolx27;s in tincture form. What do you think of iodine as a remedy? There is a homeopathic remedy that is based on iodine. I with I knew more about the kinds of remedies to remediate my condition. (Sigh).
Also, I am interested in weight loss. Some saynthat there is a relationship betweem an enlarged uterus, thyroid and metabolism--that is metabolism slowing down. I need to speed it back up?
Thanks,
Angie
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There's a quick skin test one can do to see if their body really needs iodine,
Take some iodine tincture, used for first aid.
Apply a 1 inch square on on flat side of your forearm or any area of body where you have little hair.
The speed at which the iodine orange color disappears shows how fast your body is absorbing it.
I forgot the exact timing but if disappears in a few hours vs a day or more, your body requires iodine.
If a bunch of us try it and report their findings, we might get a general idea.
Susan
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Re: uterine fibroid
My mother did this for years. She applied iodine more or less daily (if I remember right) and was always amazed at how quickly it kept disappearing. So she kept applying it… I think there was something else going on; her body was sucking it up (the stain would vanish very quickly), but apparently not absorbing it? Her health at that point was very poor, and iodine did not seem to be solving the problem.
Shannon
Shannon
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Re: uterine fibroid
Iodine is only one component of your thyroid hormone, you need good digestion to release the amino acid tyrosene in your stomach where is goes through the stomach wall and into the blood stream, this is where it picks up iodine to make your thyroid hormones. There are other trace minerals needed and that is why kelp is a good supplement for that.
Most people over 50 years old can do with a good digestive enzyme - unfortunately our digestive abilities deteriorate with age.
Iodine is pretty benign unless you are sensitive to it (could be Hashimodos or in my opinion a great need for iodine and the body over reacts to it, or seafood allergies, etc). Normally a person can take up to 200 times more iodine than they need without toxicity.
Did your mom have digestive issues? Without good digestion we cannot uncouple the amino acids needed for bodily repair.
Maria
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From: "Shannon Nelson"
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
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Subject: Re: [Minutus] Re: uterine fibroid
My mother did this for years. She applied iodine more or less daily (if I remember right) and was always amazed at how quickly it kept disappearing. So she kept applying it… I think there was something else going on; her body was sucking it up (the stain would vanish very quickly), but apparently not absorbing it? Her health at that point was very poor, and iodine did not seem to be solving the problem.
Shannon
Most people over 50 years old can do with a good digestive enzyme - unfortunately our digestive abilities deteriorate with age.
Iodine is pretty benign unless you are sensitive to it (could be Hashimodos or in my opinion a great need for iodine and the body over reacts to it, or seafood allergies, etc). Normally a person can take up to 200 times more iodine than they need without toxicity.
Did your mom have digestive issues? Without good digestion we cannot uncouple the amino acids needed for bodily repair.
Maria
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From: "Shannon Nelson"
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 11:48:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Re: uterine fibroid
My mother did this for years. She applied iodine more or less daily (if I remember right) and was always amazed at how quickly it kept disappearing. So she kept applying it… I think there was something else going on; her body was sucking it up (the stain would vanish very quickly), but apparently not absorbing it? Her health at that point was very poor, and iodine did not seem to be solving the problem.
Shannon
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Re: uterine fibroid
She did have digestive issues, and also many, many others. Thanks for the tip about tyrosine. That's new to me, and could well have been part of what was going on with her.
I didn't mean to say I thought the iodine was *hurting* her -- she probably would have noticed if it was. But it did not seem to be helping her either. But as to why it tested bad for me, at the time I was having MS symptoms (auto-immune), and he said it has been observed to worsen (some) auto-immune conditions, but I have no idea why that would be -- any idea?
Thanks!
Shannon
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I didn't mean to say I thought the iodine was *hurting* her -- she probably would have noticed if it was. But it did not seem to be helping her either. But as to why it tested bad for me, at the time I was having MS symptoms (auto-immune), and he said it has been observed to worsen (some) auto-immune conditions, but I have no idea why that would be -- any idea?
Thanks!
Shannon
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Re: uterine fibroid
Tyrosine is an amino acid we need to eat (in the diet), to get enough for making thyroid hormones.
It's not "released" from somewhere.
Not according to research.
The thyroid hormones are made inside the thyroid in the thyroid follicular cells.
Thyroid follicles have an epithelial layer around the gelatinous colloid center of the thyroid cell, the latter of which consists mainly of thyroglobulin.
In these cells, to make hormones, tyrosine is needed and must be "iodinated" as foll:
* Iodide must be attached to tyrosine, requiring presence of all four of:
- iodine
- hydrogen peroxide (H2O2)
- thyroid peroxidase enzyme
- thyroglobulin
So this reaction is in the thyroid follicles as all four components must be together and that's where the thyroglobulin is.
Reaction components are:
...Iodine is oxidized by H2O2 to make iodide (and Iodine is stored mainly in the thyroid)
...Iodide combines with tyrosine which is already a part of the thyroglobulin (which is a very large molecule in these thyroid cells)
and this forms T1, OR T2 (depending whether binding is with 1 or 2 transformed iodide atoms) all catalysed by the enzyme present in the thyroid, thyroid peroxidase.
TO MAKE THE HORMONES:
Two T2's join to make T4 hormone.
One T1 plus one T2 make T3 hormone.
These hormones are stored in the thymus with the thyroglobulin till needed.
When needed, they are separated from the thyroglobulin and sent into the bloodstream.
REF:The Sodium/Iodide Symporter (NIS): Characterization, Regulation, and
Medical Significance. By ORSOLYA DOHA´ N, ANTONIO DE LA VIEJA, VIKTORIYA
PARODER, CLAUDIA RIEDEL, MONA ARTANI, MIA REED, CHRISTOPHER S. GINTER,
AND NANCY CARRASCO (2003)
It is benign in natural forms - serious reactions only occur with compounds that are not normal to the body such as potassium iodide.
I've learned that the hard way personally, as well as seeing research on it.
I can eat seaweed to my heart's content - but cannot tolerate iodine injections for xray dye etc.
It's a chemical reaction issue with the FORM of iodine to which adverse (chemical) reactions occur.
I've not gone into it in enough depth to figure out the actual chemical reaction triggered by potassium iodide in many people. Those unexpected chemical reactions can be so complex with all the chemicals in the body's bloodstream or gut.
It's taken me months for example to figure the chemical reactions of magnesium chloride in the gut. They are surprisingly violent and damaging. (The first of several nasty ones is that MgCl2 reacts with HCl in an exothermic way - setting up a major heat producing reaction that causes boiling and burning inside - and which is made worse if you drink water to try to cool the burn. It's why Mg Cl2 tablets are enteric coated. It goes on the react also with the Sodium bicarb that is excreted next to fix the pH before the stomach is emptied, with still more adverse effects. It's why Mg Cl2 tablets are enteric coated.)
We can too easily forget all the reactive chemicals inside us - and they do NOT "know" that MgCl or KI (potassium iodide) is not supposed to be present in that form in any natural situation! The body just does the chemical reactions, and we suffer the consequences! KI is very reactive!
Always - IF it is natural from seaweed etc.
Amino acids are components of proteins we eat. "Uncoupling" them is what the digestive process does. We can only absorb them into the system as amino acids - not as complete proteins. If complete proteins get through the gut wall, we will have foreign protein reactions - allergic reactions.
Namaste,
Irene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."
It's not "released" from somewhere.
Not according to research.
The thyroid hormones are made inside the thyroid in the thyroid follicular cells.
Thyroid follicles have an epithelial layer around the gelatinous colloid center of the thyroid cell, the latter of which consists mainly of thyroglobulin.
In these cells, to make hormones, tyrosine is needed and must be "iodinated" as foll:
* Iodide must be attached to tyrosine, requiring presence of all four of:
- iodine
- hydrogen peroxide (H2O2)
- thyroid peroxidase enzyme
- thyroglobulin
So this reaction is in the thyroid follicles as all four components must be together and that's where the thyroglobulin is.
Reaction components are:
...Iodine is oxidized by H2O2 to make iodide (and Iodine is stored mainly in the thyroid)
...Iodide combines with tyrosine which is already a part of the thyroglobulin (which is a very large molecule in these thyroid cells)
and this forms T1, OR T2 (depending whether binding is with 1 or 2 transformed iodide atoms) all catalysed by the enzyme present in the thyroid, thyroid peroxidase.
TO MAKE THE HORMONES:
Two T2's join to make T4 hormone.
One T1 plus one T2 make T3 hormone.
These hormones are stored in the thymus with the thyroglobulin till needed.
When needed, they are separated from the thyroglobulin and sent into the bloodstream.
REF:The Sodium/Iodide Symporter (NIS): Characterization, Regulation, and
Medical Significance. By ORSOLYA DOHA´ N, ANTONIO DE LA VIEJA, VIKTORIYA
PARODER, CLAUDIA RIEDEL, MONA ARTANI, MIA REED, CHRISTOPHER S. GINTER,
AND NANCY CARRASCO (2003)
It is benign in natural forms - serious reactions only occur with compounds that are not normal to the body such as potassium iodide.
I've learned that the hard way personally, as well as seeing research on it.
I can eat seaweed to my heart's content - but cannot tolerate iodine injections for xray dye etc.
It's a chemical reaction issue with the FORM of iodine to which adverse (chemical) reactions occur.
I've not gone into it in enough depth to figure out the actual chemical reaction triggered by potassium iodide in many people. Those unexpected chemical reactions can be so complex with all the chemicals in the body's bloodstream or gut.
It's taken me months for example to figure the chemical reactions of magnesium chloride in the gut. They are surprisingly violent and damaging. (The first of several nasty ones is that MgCl2 reacts with HCl in an exothermic way - setting up a major heat producing reaction that causes boiling and burning inside - and which is made worse if you drink water to try to cool the burn. It's why Mg Cl2 tablets are enteric coated. It goes on the react also with the Sodium bicarb that is excreted next to fix the pH before the stomach is emptied, with still more adverse effects. It's why Mg Cl2 tablets are enteric coated.)
We can too easily forget all the reactive chemicals inside us - and they do NOT "know" that MgCl or KI (potassium iodide) is not supposed to be present in that form in any natural situation! The body just does the chemical reactions, and we suffer the consequences! KI is very reactive!
Always - IF it is natural from seaweed etc.
Amino acids are components of proteins we eat. "Uncoupling" them is what the digestive process does. We can only absorb them into the system as amino acids - not as complete proteins. If complete proteins get through the gut wall, we will have foreign protein reactions - allergic reactions.
Namaste,
Irene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."