Taking Vitamins

[Sheri Nakken]

yes, that is puzzling, but met a woman recently who ate next to nothing and the same thing everyday and looks great in here 60's but now she is starting to pay.................many symptoms that seem to be maintaining causes and she is improving with food and individualized calciums, bowel cleanse, vitamin C, only - not even homeopathy.

sometimes it just takes awhile, but hard to understand how can do so well for so many years.
But maybe too sick on a deeper level to show signs of other illnesses?
The picture of health isn't always health.
Many times people in mental institutions or people with Alzheimers are the picture of health. Never get sick - never get an acute illness.
But we know they have the deepest disturbances.

Just my thoughts.
Sheri

At 01:07 PM 9/24/2008, you wrote:

[healthinfo6]

I did find an OTC vitamin D 50,000 IU,

http://store.hmglobalmall.com/bid3ch100caf1.html

but since Irene says she's taking a prescription brand, I can get it through health insurance for $5 co-pay vs. $35.

I find it even more amazing how we've been told all our lives that taking over 400 IU per day could be catastrophic and now we've rather quickly moved to upto 50,000 IU while some say 2000 IU prolonged can cause illnesses.

There was a Massachusetts dairy accidentally fortifying their milk quarts with upto 230,000 IU Vitamin D for years. Lawsuits emerged.

"Analysis of the dairy's vitamin D-fortified milk revealed concentrations of vitamin D3 (cholecalciferol) that ranged from undetectable to as high as 232,565 IU per quart (245,840 IU per liter). An analysis of the concentrate that was used to fortify the milk, labeled as containing vitamin D2 (ergocalciferol), revealed that it contained vitamin D3. CONCLUSIONS. Hypervitaminosis D may result from drinking milk that is incorrectly and excessively fortified with vitamin D. Milk that is fortified with vitamin D must be carefully monitored. "

http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/abs ... 26/18/1173

Susan

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[Irene de Villiers]

Not sure - why do you ask?
They are green caps if that helps. I made sure it was D3 then tossed
the paperwork.
Namaste,
Irene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[healthinfo6]

I found an OTC vitamin D3 50,000 IU http://store.hmglobalmall.com/bid3ch100caf1.html for $36 but if there is a prescription version, I can get for copay $5 which is why I asked.

I checked, most prescription vitamin D is D2 and the only green capsule I found is a D2, Drisdol, green & oval with imprints D92 and circled W on sides. Your prescription bottle label has info. The other D3 as prescriptions aren't green nor in 50,000 IU potency nor all available in the U.S. There are valid medical conditions that use prescription D2 upto 150,000 IU, like rickets, hypoparathyroidism.

Susan

[Irene de Villiers]

Thanks for the heads-up.
I just went back to my pharmacist - asked if it was D3 - got the yes
again and asked to look at the container. So much for that pharmacist
- of course it was not D3 and she assured me it was "the same thing".
No thanks. So apparently the highest D3 on Rx is 1000mg (per my NEW
pharmacist), so looks like one is stuck with OTC D3 to get a decent
amount per swallow.

Gee why can a pharmacist not answer a straight question with a
straight answer!
Anyway - I am glad of the heads-up - thanks.
Mine has an imprint one side only, hard to read, looks like PAL40 or
similar. Anyway it is also not D3. So I'll go back to the OTC
tablets. Bummer. One a week is so much easier to swallow than 70 a
week. I'll use up my supply and change to the OTC you found.

Namaste,
Irene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[healthinfo6]

Please re-read this thread and take heed not to arbitrarily take megadoses of vitamins, especially fat soluble ones like vitamin D3, unless you've been tested and know your D2/D3 levels. I was living in South Florida getting plenty of sun exposure and still had insufficient level of 23 (20-30 considered insufficient, below 20 deficient, above 30 normal). Have been taking 1000 IU D3 for over a year and now living up north with currently no sun exposure and still have the same insufficient vitamin D level. MD says possible lack of absorption.
Since a year of much less sunshine exposure hasn't decreased my vitamin D levels, maybe it means this is my "normal" level. More may not necessarily mean better.
Upping to 2000 IU and will retest in a few months. If still at insufficient levels, will not keep upping amounts, especially if I have no improvement of other conditions like diabetes, which is has been conjectured could be related to low vitamin D.
There is no way of knowing if Irene's extremely high vitamin D3 intake outlined here (50,000 IU/week) was a causative factor of her stroke.
What sounds good in research papers doesn't always translate into real life.
Susan

[Tanya Marquette]

What I have read is that you would need to take about 5000 iu/daily for a while to up those really low levels of D3.
The body uses it so fast and at 1000 iu/daily there is nothing to store.
I do 10,000/daily in the winter. Last year it improved my SAD considerably. In the summer I take less and try to get
more sun. And I don't shower it off as soon as I get in the house! I know this is controversial, formation of the chemical
on the skin or below the skin.
Normative levels set by the FDA and medical industry people are way too low for health building. People I read all
say levels should be btw 50-80.
You doctor sounds like most who know very little about vitamins and do not do the research to understand. They are
too busy listening to the pharma salespeople!
tanya

[healthinfo6]

Irene was really taking 70,000IU/week based on her food and supplements.
SAD is easily cured, stay off the internet.
Susan

[Tanya Marquette]

and what is your point?
tanya

[Teresa Kramer]

I guess you have never experienced SAD, Susan. That remark is right up there with the opinions of those who give advice on clinical depression without having experienced it. I’ve heard a lot of those, the worst being when my 15-year-old shook me by the shoulders and said, “Get out there and volunteer, Mom!.” Teresa (Northern VA)