RADAR Was: How to learn the Boenninghausen repertory and method
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RADAR Was: How to learn the Boenninghausen repertory and method
Hi Michael,
Do you know how Radar's UR (Universal Rep) compares to the Complete? The UR is supposed to encorporate the Boenninghausen rubrics, but I have never seen it. They are going to take the UR off the matket in October and I am wondering why and what their next plan is.
Thanks,
Ellen Madono
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Do you know how Radar's UR (Universal Rep) compares to the Complete? The UR is supposed to encorporate the Boenninghausen rubrics, but I have never seen it. They are going to take the UR off the matket in October and I am wondering why and what their next plan is.
Thanks,
Ellen Madono
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Re: RADAR Was: How to learn the Boenninghausen repertory and method
Hi Micheal,
What are polarities?
Thanks,
Ellen Madono
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What are polarities?
Thanks,
Ellen Madono
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Re: RADAR Was: How to learn the Boenninghausen repertory and method
Hi,
I am surprised Micheal is using the EH. From his description, I would think he would be using the references from ISIS. Michael were you able to buy ISIS without the references?
Radar is going to quit selling the UR which bundles the Complete. Which means you won't be able to upgrade your Complete. I am thnking of getting it though because switching to another system sounds just too expensive.
I looked at the ISIS site. Many of the features that ISIS claims are their strong points are also available in Radar. The problem for me (a Luddite of sorts) has been figuring out how to use those features. Once I understand, they are wonderful features. Hopefully ISIS improves on user friendliness.
I have heard that the next upgrade of Radar will take you back to the orginal source listed next to each remedy. So you can see how the remedy is used there. That should improve our understanding of rubrics even without the German. I didn't quite understand the ISIS claim that it is a MM and a rep presentation all at once. Maybe that is what they are doing. Could you clarify that Michael.
Yes, Michael, please give us some examples of German to English etc. errors that you have found. I wonder if the Radar translation of the Complete is different from say the ISIS or MacRep translation.
Have you ever seen any critique of these various translations in writing?
Best,
Ellen
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I am surprised Micheal is using the EH. From his description, I would think he would be using the references from ISIS. Michael were you able to buy ISIS without the references?
Radar is going to quit selling the UR which bundles the Complete. Which means you won't be able to upgrade your Complete. I am thnking of getting it though because switching to another system sounds just too expensive.
I looked at the ISIS site. Many of the features that ISIS claims are their strong points are also available in Radar. The problem for me (a Luddite of sorts) has been figuring out how to use those features. Once I understand, they are wonderful features. Hopefully ISIS improves on user friendliness.
I have heard that the next upgrade of Radar will take you back to the orginal source listed next to each remedy. So you can see how the remedy is used there. That should improve our understanding of rubrics even without the German. I didn't quite understand the ISIS claim that it is a MM and a rep presentation all at once. Maybe that is what they are doing. Could you clarify that Michael.
Yes, Michael, please give us some examples of German to English etc. errors that you have found. I wonder if the Radar translation of the Complete is different from say the ISIS or MacRep translation.
Have you ever seen any critique of these various translations in writing?
Best,
Ellen
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Re: RADAR Was: How to learn the Boenninghausen repertory and method
Do you know why Radar is stopping doing the RUV, Ellen?
I have used it over the years (first on Isis, then on Radar) but recently have been a bit surprised at some of the stuff that turns up in it. At least with synthesis you can set parameters on what gets in to your repertorisation. I wonder if this is why they are drawing back or....
Isis, incidentally, is just one program - you don't buy rep and mat med separately. Many fewer books available but much more 'intuitive' in how it works. Radar can be a bit of a full time hobby but in the end you can all but knit socks with it!
Theresa
I have used it over the years (first on Isis, then on Radar) but recently have been a bit surprised at some of the stuff that turns up in it. At least with synthesis you can set parameters on what gets in to your repertorisation. I wonder if this is why they are drawing back or....
Isis, incidentally, is just one program - you don't buy rep and mat med separately. Many fewer books available but much more 'intuitive' in how it works. Radar can be a bit of a full time hobby but in the end you can all but knit socks with it!
Theresa
Re: RADAR Was: How to learn the Boenninghausen repertory and method
Isis Vision has now gone to the Complete 08. When I spoke to the person who wrote RUV he said that he was getting vibes from people that they preferred the Complete and therefore he was going to abandon RUV and concentrate on the Complete. This is probably why the Complete has been updated rather than RUV. I am only using Complete 08 now.
Rochelle
Registered Homeopath
EFT(Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk
Rochelle
Registered Homeopath
EFT(Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk
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Re: RADAR Was: How to learn the Boenninghausen repertory and method
Hi Rochelle,
I can`t imagine Radar giving up on the only counter part of Sythesis. So I bet they are simply abandoning the UR. What advantage do you see in using the Complete as opposed to Syntheis? I thought is provided Boenninghausen rubrics, but maybe I am wrong. I don't have it.
Best,
Ellen
I can`t imagine Radar giving up on the only counter part of Sythesis. So I bet they are simply abandoning the UR. What advantage do you see in using the Complete as opposed to Syntheis? I thought is provided Boenninghausen rubrics, but maybe I am wrong. I don't have it.
Best,
Ellen
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Re: RADAR Was: How to learn the Boenninghausen repertory and method
Hi Theresa,
Yes, I could knit a truck load of socks in the time it has taken be to get half handy with Radar. That with all kinds of computer problems, I was a head in the days of straight books.
Best,
Ellen
Yes, I could knit a truck load of socks in the time it has taken be to get half handy with Radar. That with all kinds of computer problems, I was a head in the days of straight books.
Best,
Ellen
Re: RADAR Was: How to learn the Boenninghausen repertory and method
I have never had access to Synthesis so I can't comment
Rochelle
Registered Homeopath
EFT(Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk
Rochelle
Registered Homeopath
EFT(Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk
Re: RADAR Was: How to learn the Boenninghausen repertory and method
I just wanted to mention for Ellen and anyone else interested, that even though Radar may not be perfect, as none of the programs are likely to be, I have been using it for many years now, and I consider it ample to do a quick rep or much more if you want to use all of its features.
If a Homoeopath cannot find the similimum using one of these programs just to do the repping, they cannot blame the program. Also, even though there may be errors, they are not likely major enough to stop you finding what you are after, especially if you have the hard copy versions of the main texts the info was drawn from. More important is to know how to choose symptoms that form the totality, and turn them into rubrics.
Also, the Boenninghausen module within Radar seems to work well for me – and you can choose which rep to use – exclusively the TPB or a mixture of Synthesis, or RU or any other one of the choices. There is no way you will not find what you are looking for with all these reps at your disposal as both Synthesis and RU contain all the Beonninghausen rubrics in some form, offering more than the TPB – as long as you have put in the totality you have in your case.
To me, which program is the best, is more likely to be the one that you have purchased and worked out how to use! Although the bigger ones like Radar offer much much more than just repping. Even Hompath, which is a much simpler program, does the more Indian style homoeopathic analysis, which is the main base way I was trained – and is undeniably more ‘classic’ than much of what is claimed to be that on this list – and it is fine as well although it may not include all the modern fancy remedies – and my thoughts on that are that there are plenty of remedies available to treat most presenting symptoms, without these being necessary.
the program, should be only used as a tool to save you endless hand repping of incredibly large rubrics. I have done hand repping when a student, and it is good to do it to learn what it is all about, but once knowing what you are doing, once your experience from practice kicks in, hand repping is unnecessary if you have a program. You can use the programs for the tiniest totalities or much larger ones. It happens in an instant – so why not utilize? As long as you can do it by hand as well, in case you don’t have your computer when needed – but with experience, this becomes easier and easier.
Whatever you spend your time to learn will be the program that is best for you to use. Radar is perfectly fine, errors that may be and all. Because you can set the view you want, you can be as pioneering as you want to be. Hahnemann remedies only, Kent, Jahr, Knerr, Boenninghausen views and any others you care to create yourself. and various methods of analysis are available to you in that program. What more could there be?
Because the Boenninghausen method is different to Kent and others, it is worth becoming familiar with – and armed with a cheap Indian text such as Dhawale – ‘Principles and Practice of Homoeopathy’ you can learn about all those methods and read cases etc... and even though not a very modern looking book, the information contained within its pages give a very good grounding in homoeopathic case taking and analysis.
There are some cases that call for the Boenninhausen method, and others that don’t.
I recall as a student, we had to do a stint with Kent, then Boenninghausen, then Boger – and we had to know why we had chosen each method over the others – and I am grateful for this. We had charts for hand repping with the major remedies represented. So, yes, it is important to have a base without computer reps only so you understand what you are trying to do.
I don’t get a good feeling when people make strongly negative comments about programs, other homoeopaths, etc..... as though they are not of any use or capable of practicing etc.... and I consider it unnecessary for our growth as homoeopaths. All programs are useful in some way, even the free ones – and will be of use to those who use them.
Robyn
If a Homoeopath cannot find the similimum using one of these programs just to do the repping, they cannot blame the program. Also, even though there may be errors, they are not likely major enough to stop you finding what you are after, especially if you have the hard copy versions of the main texts the info was drawn from. More important is to know how to choose symptoms that form the totality, and turn them into rubrics.
Also, the Boenninghausen module within Radar seems to work well for me – and you can choose which rep to use – exclusively the TPB or a mixture of Synthesis, or RU or any other one of the choices. There is no way you will not find what you are looking for with all these reps at your disposal as both Synthesis and RU contain all the Beonninghausen rubrics in some form, offering more than the TPB – as long as you have put in the totality you have in your case.
To me, which program is the best, is more likely to be the one that you have purchased and worked out how to use! Although the bigger ones like Radar offer much much more than just repping. Even Hompath, which is a much simpler program, does the more Indian style homoeopathic analysis, which is the main base way I was trained – and is undeniably more ‘classic’ than much of what is claimed to be that on this list – and it is fine as well although it may not include all the modern fancy remedies – and my thoughts on that are that there are plenty of remedies available to treat most presenting symptoms, without these being necessary.
the program, should be only used as a tool to save you endless hand repping of incredibly large rubrics. I have done hand repping when a student, and it is good to do it to learn what it is all about, but once knowing what you are doing, once your experience from practice kicks in, hand repping is unnecessary if you have a program. You can use the programs for the tiniest totalities or much larger ones. It happens in an instant – so why not utilize? As long as you can do it by hand as well, in case you don’t have your computer when needed – but with experience, this becomes easier and easier.
Whatever you spend your time to learn will be the program that is best for you to use. Radar is perfectly fine, errors that may be and all. Because you can set the view you want, you can be as pioneering as you want to be. Hahnemann remedies only, Kent, Jahr, Knerr, Boenninghausen views and any others you care to create yourself. and various methods of analysis are available to you in that program. What more could there be?
Because the Boenninghausen method is different to Kent and others, it is worth becoming familiar with – and armed with a cheap Indian text such as Dhawale – ‘Principles and Practice of Homoeopathy’ you can learn about all those methods and read cases etc... and even though not a very modern looking book, the information contained within its pages give a very good grounding in homoeopathic case taking and analysis.
There are some cases that call for the Boenninhausen method, and others that don’t.
I recall as a student, we had to do a stint with Kent, then Boenninghausen, then Boger – and we had to know why we had chosen each method over the others – and I am grateful for this. We had charts for hand repping with the major remedies represented. So, yes, it is important to have a base without computer reps only so you understand what you are trying to do.
I don’t get a good feeling when people make strongly negative comments about programs, other homoeopaths, etc..... as though they are not of any use or capable of practicing etc.... and I consider it unnecessary for our growth as homoeopaths. All programs are useful in some way, even the free ones – and will be of use to those who use them.
Robyn
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Re: RADAR Was: How to learn the Boenninghausen repertory and method
Dear Robyn,
I think you are right in that you use what you have. I was thrilled last night when I did a Boenninghausen case using his paper pocket book rep. Actually, I had thought that a Kentian rep could be used to do a Boenninghausen one sided physical case. That is possible, but not a very good practice if you have better more specific tools. The sky is the limit in terms of what is possible for better and better reps for specific purposes. They are still being developed. I was surprised to learn that the emphasis is not on including new remedies, rather it is on confirming the use of well proven remedies.
It is inspiring to see rep makers out there putting their heart an soul into a product that currently has such a small market. The Boenninghausen rubrics are constructed for his repping style. I think what you feel is bad mouthing of other earnest homeopaths and rep makers is actually us trying to understand differences of philosophy and interest. I don't think we have absolute answers, but still we are thinking and trying to do the best with what we have. As you say, repping is only the beginning of the remedy choosing process. Nevertheless, If you don't have all the details down correctly, you will like me have some misconceptions. It is best to correct foggy understanding. I think my distance course spent about 5 pages on Boenninghausen. Of course I will never know correct my understanding if I don't seek to know more from homeopaths who have invested much more time and energy into implementing the method than I have. Once I have the basic idea correctly understood, I too will move toward implementation with the best tools that I can at any time gather. I am very thankful for those who have stuck their neck out to give clear direction to me and to others who may be equally confused.
I have Synthesis and clearly Synthesis 9.1 is moving in the direction of including Boenninghausen rubrics. But the process is not as simple as I would suppose. Each rep maker has his own standards. The one who is clearer about what matters is of course the most persuasive. I will stay with Synthesis and hope that they can catch up to the Complete 2008. The Complete 2005 included Boenninghausen rubrics. That is what Radar is now selling (and will discontinue). 2008 still is not finished with incorporating all the Boenninghausen rubrics. So the process has to be complex. They are looking at other classical works to increase the number of remedies in those rubrics. It is not totally clear to me at least how Boenninghausen chose his remedies. But I really think it will require investment in the Boenninghausen method and philosophy. For some reason, they cannot just copy the Complete. The interview with Frederik Schroyens (the editor) said that they have also streamlined rubrics so you don't have rubrics with the same meaning. That's a good move, but unrelated to the Boenninghausen method. Perhaps it all a matter of emphasis.
Sharp critique is always helpful. Then we deal with what we actually have. Sharp critique helps us to understand ideals and directions for future learning. Without that, I personally am lost in the detail of daily study. Staying motivated and focused requires ideals and direction.
Best,
Ellen
I think you are right in that you use what you have. I was thrilled last night when I did a Boenninghausen case using his paper pocket book rep. Actually, I had thought that a Kentian rep could be used to do a Boenninghausen one sided physical case. That is possible, but not a very good practice if you have better more specific tools. The sky is the limit in terms of what is possible for better and better reps for specific purposes. They are still being developed. I was surprised to learn that the emphasis is not on including new remedies, rather it is on confirming the use of well proven remedies.
It is inspiring to see rep makers out there putting their heart an soul into a product that currently has such a small market. The Boenninghausen rubrics are constructed for his repping style. I think what you feel is bad mouthing of other earnest homeopaths and rep makers is actually us trying to understand differences of philosophy and interest. I don't think we have absolute answers, but still we are thinking and trying to do the best with what we have. As you say, repping is only the beginning of the remedy choosing process. Nevertheless, If you don't have all the details down correctly, you will like me have some misconceptions. It is best to correct foggy understanding. I think my distance course spent about 5 pages on Boenninghausen. Of course I will never know correct my understanding if I don't seek to know more from homeopaths who have invested much more time and energy into implementing the method than I have. Once I have the basic idea correctly understood, I too will move toward implementation with the best tools that I can at any time gather. I am very thankful for those who have stuck their neck out to give clear direction to me and to others who may be equally confused.
I have Synthesis and clearly Synthesis 9.1 is moving in the direction of including Boenninghausen rubrics. But the process is not as simple as I would suppose. Each rep maker has his own standards. The one who is clearer about what matters is of course the most persuasive. I will stay with Synthesis and hope that they can catch up to the Complete 2008. The Complete 2005 included Boenninghausen rubrics. That is what Radar is now selling (and will discontinue). 2008 still is not finished with incorporating all the Boenninghausen rubrics. So the process has to be complex. They are looking at other classical works to increase the number of remedies in those rubrics. It is not totally clear to me at least how Boenninghausen chose his remedies. But I really think it will require investment in the Boenninghausen method and philosophy. For some reason, they cannot just copy the Complete. The interview with Frederik Schroyens (the editor) said that they have also streamlined rubrics so you don't have rubrics with the same meaning. That's a good move, but unrelated to the Boenninghausen method. Perhaps it all a matter of emphasis.
Sharp critique is always helpful. Then we deal with what we actually have. Sharp critique helps us to understand ideals and directions for future learning. Without that, I personally am lost in the detail of daily study. Staying motivated and focused requires ideals and direction.
Best,
Ellen